Biwiring

Hi - I've just bought some speakers, JMLab Chorus 715, marvellous. Anyway,
something in the setup instructions intrigued me - bi-wiring "reduces or
eliminates any problem caused by the bass drivers feeding any signal back to
the amplifier. This signal intermodulates and spoils the sound quality of
the midrange and treble". Er, what?!

I don't bother with biwiring as a rule, but should this cause a rethink?

Rob

"RJH" wrote in message



Hi - I've just bought some speakers, JMLab Chorus 715, marvellous.

Anyway, something in the setup instructions intrigued me - bi-wiring
"reduces or eliminates any problem caused by the bass drivers feeding
any signal back to the amplifier. This signal intermodulates and
spoils the sound quality of the midrange and treble". Er, what?!

Indeed. It's too bad that someone garbaged-up some really pretty good
speakers with pseudo-scientific instructions.

I don't bother with biwiring as a rule, but should this cause a rethink?

No, it should just cause a moment of silence for the poor wretch who wrote
the instructions.

"RJH" wrote in message



Hi - I've just bought some speakers, JMLab Chorus 715, marvellous.

Anyway, something in the setup instructions intrigued me - bi-wiring
"reduces or eliminates any problem caused by the bass drivers feeding
any signal back to the amplifier. This signal intermodulates and
spoils the sound quality of the midrange and treble". Er, what?!

Indeed. It's too bad that someone garbaged-up some really pretty good
speakers with pseudo-scientific instructions.

I don't bother with biwiring as a rule, but should this cause a rethink?

No, it should just cause a moment of silence for the poor wretch who wrote
the instructions.

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:11:18 -0000
"RJH" wrote:

bi-wiring "reduces or
eliminates any problem caused by the bass drivers feeding any signal back to
the amplifier. This signal intermodulates and spoils the sound quality of
the midrange and treble". Er, what?!

Well, of course, using seperate feeds from seperate amps can eliminate the possibility of a ****ty amp with high impedance outputs or an inadequate PSU which fouls up the bass fouling up the treble...

Of course, if you dont have a ****ty amp, then its bull**** ;-)

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Ian Molton wrote:
Well, of course, using seperate feeds from seperate amps can eliminate
the possibility of a ****ty amp with high impedance outputs or an
inadequate PSU which fouls up the bass fouling up the treble...

If the bass/mid range was fouled up through use of a poor amp, I doubt
clean treble would be much help.

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In article ,
Ian Molton wrote:
Well, of course, using seperate feeds from seperate amps can eliminate
the possibility of a ****ty amp with high impedance outputs or an
inadequate PSU which fouls up the bass fouling up the treble...

If the bass/mid range was fouled up through use of a poor amp, I doubt
clean treble would be much help.

--
*For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism *

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Ian Molton wrote:
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:11:18 -0000
"RJH" wrote:

bi-wiring "reduces or
eliminates any problem caused by the bass drivers feeding any signal
back to the amplifier. This signal intermodulates and spoils the
sound quality of the midrange and treble". Er, what?!

Well, of course, using seperate feeds from seperate amps can
eliminate the possibility of a ****ty amp with high impedance outputs
or an inadequate PSU which fouls up the bass fouling up the treble...

Of course, if you dont have a ****ty amp, then its bull**** ;-)

I have a Roksan Kandy amp and Quad 11L speakers. Both of them recommend
biwiring - why if you say its rubbish. Why is it rubbish.

As far as I know, neither company produces speaker cable so why bother if
they don't gain?

Not suggesting your wrong but the logic does seem to be 'logical'!

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:23:22 -0000
"MrBitsy" wrote:

I have a Roksan Kandy amp and Quad 11L speakers. Both of them
recommend biwiring - why if you say its rubbish. Why is it rubbish.

As far as I know, neither company produces speaker cable so why bother
if they don't gain?

Not suggesting your wrong but the logic does seem to be 'logical'!

This should sort the logic aspect:

Highstreet retailers sell speaker cables, its VERY profitable.

High street retailers like it when companies recommend bi-wiring as a
result

Therefore they buy and recommend people to buy gear that requires
bi-wiring.

Thus if Quad didnt recommend it, they would lose out as high street
sellers wouldnt recommend their gear.

since bi-wiring wont DEcrease sound quality, why NOT recommend it?

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:40:56 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:23:22 -0000
"MrBitsy" wrote:

I have a Roksan Kandy amp and Quad 11L speakers. Both of them
recommend biwiring - why if you say its rubbish. Why is it rubbish.

As far as I know, neither company produces speaker cable so why bother
if they don't gain?

Not suggesting your wrong but the logic does seem to be 'logical'!

This should sort the logic aspect:

Highstreet retailers sell speaker cables, its VERY profitable.

High street retailers like it when companies recommend bi-wiring as a
result

Therefore they buy and recommend people to buy gear that requires
bi-wiring.

Thus if Quad didnt recommend it, they would lose out as high street
sellers wouldnt recommend their gear.

since bi-wiring wont DEcrease sound quality, why NOT recommend it?

You say the sound quality won't decrease, but my way of thinking is
that every added cable that isn't coaxial is another opportunity for
some clown to wire it in out-of-phase.

d

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:45:30 +0000
Don Pearce wrote:

since bi-wiring wont DEcrease sound quality, why NOT recommend it?

You say the sound quality won't decrease, but my way of thinking is
that every added cable that isn't coaxial is another opportunity for
some clown to wire it in out-of-phase.

Not that it makes any difference to you or I ;-)

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