CDWOW bullied into raising CD prices by BPI

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And then they'll be complaining later that illegal downloads have increased.
If you had any moral qualms about downloading, this action should remove
them.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/3416437.stm
And then they'll be complaining later that illegal downloads have
increased.
If you had any moral qualms about downloading, this action should remove
them.

The record industry has the nerve to complain that sales are in decline!

I can imagine the BPI are acting on pressure from record companies acting to
defend the larger, better established, local retailers from the
competition - "our sales are down because of those evil foreign Internet
dealers" - not because their operations are inefficient, old-fashioned,
expensive and undesirable. I thought that an open market was a healthy
market - how naive. We can privatise our utilities and natural monopolies so
that anyone from any land can own them, but not import music from beyond
Europe without a surcharge.

Companies like Sony (random example, applies here) wish to impose their own
global standards (CD) and yet control the availabilty of software through
methods such as regional coding (different random example). They drive their
electronics business with propreitory new technologies (eg SACD - another
random example), expect us all to clammer to buy yet another copy of some of
the most over-played and/or dullest music ever recorded, prevent us from
legitimately making back-ups for in-car listening and such with anti-piracy
measures that have no effect on high-level pirates but damage the pleasure
of legal home listening and will not support any artist for more time then
it takes to make a quick buck from their 11 year old fans before moving on
to some other wannabe. Now pricing cartels are being imposed and anyone who
wishes to offer UK consumers an alternative is forced to withdraw or
increase prices.

**** them all, they don't deserve our money.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/3416437.stm

And then they'll be complaining later that illegal downloads have
increased.
If you had any moral qualms about downloading, this action should remove
them.

An intriguing point of view - can you explain why? I'd quite like a Porsche
Boxster, but don't want to pay £31,450 for it - after all, there can't be
more than a couple of grand's worth of materials in it - would it be OK to
steal one of those, too?

I'm not saying that the BPI approach is right, but CDs are luxury goods, and
so, presumably, there is an least an element of "opportunity pricing." They
can't really have a "value for money" as you're buying something intangible
(although I think they're cheap compared with concerts, trips to the cinema,
days out, etc.).

Surely the approach of most right-thinking people who don't want to pay for
luxury goods would be to go without, rather than to steal?

Andrew

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:31:50 -0000
"Andrew Virnuls" wrote:

(although I think they're cheap compared with concerts, trips to the
cinema, days out, etc.).

In northwich I could go to the cinema *ten* times for the same as it
costs me for a third-rate ****ty mastered DVD.

(most titles hit the market at about 29.99 and it costs 3.00 to get into
my local cinema.)

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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:31:50 -0000
"Andrew Virnuls" wrote:

(although I think they're cheap compared with concerts, trips to the
cinema, days out, etc.).

In northwich I could go to the cinema *ten* times for the same as it
costs me for a third-rate ****ty mastered DVD.

(most titles hit the market at about 29.99 and it costs 3.00 to get into
my local cinema.)

But for your £3 you're only buying the right to see the film once, whereas
with the DVD you're buying the right to watch it as many times as you like.
Plus, since I bought my DVD player and surround-sound system, I'm always
disappointed by the quality of the picture and the sound when I go the
cinema!

Andrew

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:27:50 -0000
"Andrew Virnuls" wrote:

In northwich I could go to the cinema *ten* times for the same as it
costs me for a third-rate ****ty mastered DVD.

(most titles hit the market at about 29.99 and it costs 3.00 to get into
my local cinema.)

But for your _3 you're only buying the right to see the film once, whereas
with the DVD you're buying the right to watch it as many times as you like.

On a HUUUGE screen with a good soundsystem (good != hifi in this case bnut nontheless...)

and for my _30 I could see it 10 times, not once.

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On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:54:41 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 23:31:50 -0000
"Andrew Virnuls" wrote:

(although I think they're cheap compared with concerts, trips to the
cinema, days out, etc.).

In northwich I could go to the cinema *ten* times for the same as it
costs me for a third-rate ****ty mastered DVD.

Whereas at the cinema you get one shot to see a ****ty
fifth-generation print, and listen to lots of yapping, rustling and
mobile phones................

(most titles hit the market at about 29.99 and it costs 3.00 to get into
my local cinema.)

You're buying your DVDs at the wrong shop!
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 00:47:30 +0000
Kurt Hamster wrote:

(most titles hit the market at about 29.99 and it costs 3.00 to get into
my local cinema.)

Well even I didn't think you'd be dumb enough to pay 30 quid for your
average DVD. Most of mine cost about 12 quid.

If you want the new releases thats what you pay.

as it happens, I get my films from the bargain bucket. I dont think I've payed 8ukp for any of them.

then again, you get what you pay for - the bargain bucket ones are factory seconds or ones people have returned (albeit woring).

I picked up 'Lost in space' for 4.99 the other day, and had to argue with customer service because the disc had little scratches (evidently had been used) and the box was shabby.

as the disc plays, I was happy wenough to take it but I insisted they replace the box (ie. swap the case inserts with a better box).

but I dont go to 'bargain bucket' cinema screenings, so I wont compare them to bargain bucket DVDs.

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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 08:29:53 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

(most titles hit the market at about 29.99 and it costs 3.00 to get into
my local cinema.)

You're buying your DVDs at the wrong shop!

I wont buy em at that price.

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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:31:38 +0000
Kurt Hamster wrote:

Well even I didn't think you'd be dumb enough to pay 30 quid for your
average DVD. Most of mine cost about 12 quid.

If you want the new releases thats what you pay.

********.

I just got Underworld, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen for 11.49 each.
Not pirates, they were official releases.

Dunno about underworld, but LoEG has been out for ages now. Besides thats still about 8 ukp overpriced (theiving *******s can make these things for pennies...)

as it happens, I get my films from the bargain bucket. I dont think I've payed 8ukp for any of them.

So why moan about paying 30 quid then? **** me you don't half bull****
don't you?

I said *IF* you want the new releases.

then again, you get what you pay for - the bargain bucket ones are factory seconds or ones people have returned (albeit woring).

Yes you do, but you obviously don't know how to do it properly.

Do share then.

I picked up 'Lost in space' for 4.99 the other day, and had to argue with customer service because the disc had little scratches (evidently had been used) and the box was shabby.

Which was 4.99 more than it cost me for Lost In Space.

So you did what, put it in your pocket and walked off?

Who's talking about bargain bins?

Er, me. cant you read?

You can really be a ****wit at times.

not as bad as being like you.

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