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Old December 8th 15, 06:46 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Adverts for the Devialet Phantom keep popping up on my browser.
http://en.devialet.com

A revolution in sound reproduction or a flash in the pan like NXT?
Anyone heard one?

It looks like an undersized speaker with a high powered amp
and bass boost to give a flat response down to a claimed
16Hz(-2dB) at low levels, or 49Hz(-2dB) at high power levels.

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Old December 8th 15, 07:11 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Trevor Wilson
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On 8/12/2015 6:46 PM, Eiron wrote:
Adverts for the Devialet Phantom keep popping up on my browser.
http://en.devialet.com

A revolution in sound reproduction or a flash in the pan like NXT?
Anyone heard one?

It looks like an undersized speaker with a high powered amp
and bass boost to give a flat response down to a claimed
16Hz(-2dB) at low levels, or 49Hz(-2dB) at high power levels.


**Dunno, but those Devialet amplifiers are something else. Very, VERY
impressively finished product (in every area). Their SAM idea is brilliant.

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Old December 8th 15, 07:34 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Would this not result in a lot of intermodulation distortion though?
Who remembers the Philips Motional feedback speakers.
Once they ironed out some of the early issues I found they actually sounded
pretty good. whether they sounded enough better to justify several amps on
each speaker and its attendant cost is de debatable. A nice idea but like
so many perhaps not as audible as it might have been.
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"Eiron" wrote in message
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Adverts for the Devialet Phantom keep popping up on my browser.
http://en.devialet.com

A revolution in sound reproduction or a flash in the pan like NXT?
Anyone heard one?

It looks like an undersized speaker with a high powered amp
and bass boost to give a flat response down to a claimed
16Hz(-2dB) at low levels, or 49Hz(-2dB) at high power levels.

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Old December 8th 15, 07:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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However the original poster should get an ad blocker for their browser.
Brian

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On 8/12/2015 6:46 PM, Eiron wrote:
Adverts for the Devialet Phantom keep popping up on my browser.
http://en.devialet.com

A revolution in sound reproduction or a flash in the pan like NXT?
Anyone heard one?

It looks like an undersized speaker with a high powered amp
and bass boost to give a flat response down to a claimed
16Hz(-2dB) at low levels, or 49Hz(-2dB) at high power levels.


**Dunno, but those Devialet amplifiers are something else. Very, VERY
impressively finished product (in every area). Their SAM idea is
brilliant.

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Old December 8th 15, 04:06 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce[_3_]
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On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 07:46:42 +0000, Eiron
wrote:

Adverts for the Devialet Phantom keep popping up on my browser.
http://en.devialet.com

A revolution in sound reproduction or a flash in the pan like NXT?
Anyone heard one?

It looks like an undersized speaker with a high powered amp
and bass boost to give a flat response down to a claimed
16Hz(-2dB) at low levels, or 49Hz(-2dB) at high power levels.


99dB from 750 watts? They have to be kidding. Anyone can make a
speaker nominally flat by attenuating all the power above the lowest
frequency. These may prove to be more popular in winter than summer.

d

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Old December 9th 15, 07:57 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , Don Pearce
wrote:
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 07:46:42 +0000, Eiron wrote:


Adverts for the Devialet Phantom keep popping up on my browser.
http://en.devialet.com

A revolution in sound reproduction or a flash in the pan like NXT?
Anyone heard one?

It looks like an undersized speaker with a high powered amp and bass
boost to give a flat response down to a claimed 16Hz(-2dB) at low
levels, or 49Hz(-2dB) at high power levels.


99dB from 750 watts? They have to be kidding. Anyone can make a speaker
nominally flat by attenuating all the power above the lowest frequency.
These may prove to be more popular in winter than summer.


I'm guessing as I know nothing about the speakers. However I suspect
Devialet will be using a 'digital' sic amp and using some kind of DSP to
'correct' for the speaker's impedance and distortion characteristics. If
so, it may not be as wasteful of power as a traditional type of power amp.
That said, I have no idea how successful the results will be. No doubt it
will intrigue reviewers for its novelty, etc.

Jim

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Old December 9th 15, 12:56 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 08:57:13 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
wrote:

In article , Don Pearce
wrote:
On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 07:46:42 +0000, Eiron wrote:


Adverts for the Devialet Phantom keep popping up on my browser.
http://en.devialet.com

A revolution in sound reproduction or a flash in the pan like NXT?
Anyone heard one?

It looks like an undersized speaker with a high powered amp and bass
boost to give a flat response down to a claimed 16Hz(-2dB) at low
levels, or 49Hz(-2dB) at high power levels.


99dB from 750 watts? They have to be kidding. Anyone can make a speaker
nominally flat by attenuating all the power above the lowest frequency.
These may prove to be more popular in winter than summer.


I'm guessing as I know nothing about the speakers. However I suspect
Devialet will be using a 'digital' sic amp and using some kind of DSP to
'correct' for the speaker's impedance and distortion characteristics. If
so, it may not be as wasteful of power as a traditional type of power amp.
That said, I have no idea how successful the results will be. No doubt it
will intrigue reviewers for its novelty, etc.

Jim


Well, 750 watts is producing what 1 watt should do, which means they
are suppressing everything but the lowest bass by about 28dB.

d

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Old December 9th 15, 01:27 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Well, 750 watts is producing what 1 watt should do, which means they
are suppressing everything but the lowest bass by about 28dB.


It's going to be some speaker that could handle 750 watts of LF. Mostly
extremely large ones. ;-)

Couldn't find the spec, though. Could be DIN watts. So more like 250
real. 125 per channel. Even then, will need a pretty decent speaker
chassis to handle that without frying.

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Old December 9th 15, 08:01 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce[_3_]
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On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 14:27:06 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Well, 750 watts is producing what 1 watt should do, which means they
are suppressing everything but the lowest bass by about 28dB.


It's going to be some speaker that could handle 750 watts of LF. Mostly
extremely large ones. ;-)

Couldn't find the spec, though. Could be DIN watts. So more like 250
real. 125 per channel. Even then, will need a pretty decent speaker
chassis to handle that without frying.


They probably rely on the fact that modern music mostly has pretend
bass that sounds ok on poor equipment. The drivers on that speaker are
small, and don't appear to have a huge excursion, so we aren't in
earth-shaking territory here.

d

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