infinity reference 5.25 yadda yadda yadda
 

got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm actually
convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as good as the
infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with the door...
bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it fit flush with
the door... did I not say the magic words or something??? cause bloody hell,
it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

infinity reference 5.25 yadda yadda yadda
 

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually
convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as good as
the
infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with the door...
bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it fit flush with
the door... did I not say the magic words or something??? cause bloody
hell,
it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

I can hear your British accent as I read your post, cool.....

Anyway, we will need some more info like what kind of amp are you using,
what kind of car, are the Infinity's sperates or coaxial; if separates where
did you mount the tweeter?

Do both sets of Infinity's sound like crap? And, perhaps most importantly,
specifically what is it that makes them sound like "rubbish"? Can you
describe what they are doing? Do they sound good at low volumes?

Provide some of this info and we will have a better chance of helping you.

MOSFET

infinity reference 5.25 yadda yadda yadda
 

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually
convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as good as
the
infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with the door...
bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it fit flush with
the door... did I not say the magic words or something??? cause bloody
hell,
it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

I have said these speakers are not worth the money for a long time, at the
end of the day your ears don't lie irrespective of what the advertising
literaturesays....

infinity reference 5.25 yadda yadda yadda
 

"MOSFET" wrote in message
...

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually
convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as good as
the
infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with the door...
bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it fit flush
with
the door... did I not say the magic words or something??? cause bloody
hell,
it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

I can hear your British accent as I read your post, cool.....

Anyway, we will need some more info like what kind of amp are you using,
what kind of car, are the Infinity's sperates or coaxial; if separates
where
did you mount the tweeter?

Do both sets of Infinity's sound like crap? And, perhaps most
importantly,
specifically what is it that makes them sound like "rubbish"? Can you
describe what they are doing? Do they sound good at low volumes?

Provide some of this info and we will have a better chance of helping you.

MOSFET



British accent???? OHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!! Australian actually!!... Amp is a
Audiobahn 4601T., 4 channel, at the moment 2 channels running the infinity's
in the front, and the other 2 running a sub in the boot. I also have Kicker
6x9s in the back (pre sub days) I just use em for rear fill now, they're
connected to the headunit.. The Infinity's are separates, mounted the
tweeter on the dash, about 2cm from the vents on either side of the car.

Yep, both sound like crap, I thought at first it was down to not fitting
flush with the doors, so I made brackets outta MDF, fitted perfectly (quite
the handy man must say) but yet still no improvement on the sound. ok, at
low gains, sound like crap, no mid-range whatsoever!!!, turn up the amp,
midrange improves a bit, but the speaker cone moves in and out like crazy!!
so assume amp is turned up too high, reduce it slightly... still no midrange
really at all... If I disconnect my sub completely, there is no bass thump
or tap coming from the speakers... Dunno whats up... basically it sounds the
same as my factory fitted speakers, connected directly to the headunit...
The car is a Fiat Punto (yeah I know, but I'm a poor student) 3door....

many thanks for the replies!!

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Actually, I use Infinity Reference and they sound great. There is some
tweeter control. You have a -3db hookup for the tweeters. I have to
use it on mine. It took some work, had to seal up the doors and played
with positioning a lot. But once you get it, the speakers do sound
really good.

DA

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Out of phase?

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as
good as the infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with the
door... bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it fit
flush with the door... did I not say the magic words or something??? cause
bloody hell, it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

infinity reference 5.25 yadda yadda yadda
 

On Sun, 6 Mar 2005 11:49:56 -0000, "Chris" wrote:

If I disconnect my sub completely, there is no bass thump
or tap coming from the speakers...

Chris,

Have you checked they're in phase? References aren't the best speakers
in the world, but are pretty amazingly good value for what you
normally pay for them, and one thing they won't normally lack is bass,
particularly run off a decent amp.

Jon
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infinity reference 5.25 yadda yadda yadda
 

ok.... ummmm sorry bout this.... but..... out of phase?? Jon, ZoSo???
explain...

once again so sorry, I'm pretty sure it sounds like a brain dead question,
but not sure what your talking bout... when you say outta phase, do you mean
make sure the polarity of the speakers are connected right?? Ie + to + and -
to -???


"ZoSo" wrote in message
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Out of phase?

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just as
good as the infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush with
the door... bracket around the speaker connected to the door to make it
fit flush with the door... did I not say the magic words or something???
cause bloody hell, it so wasn't worth the money or effort...

infinity reference 5.25 yadda yadda yadda
 

ok, did a bit of fiddling... I noticed, my left front speaker is distorting
alot more than the right.... I took the grills off, shifted all audio to
front right, turned it up till it distorted, backed off a bit... so the
front right is as loud as possible without distortion... I kept the volume
level the same, shifted it from right to left, the front left distorts like
mad!!! I had to turn the volume down quite a bit to stop the distortion!!.
how can that be when they're connected to the same amp?? is the front left
speaker faulty??? is that the problem?? or am I missing something so
simple?? I checked the polarity of the speaker, seems to be connected
correctly....

Am I missing anything else??

HELP!!! PLEASE


"Chris" wrote in message
...
ok.... ummmm sorry bout this.... but..... out of phase?? Jon, ZoSo???
explain...

once again so sorry, I'm pretty sure it sounds like a brain dead question,
but not sure what your talking bout... when you say outta phase, do you
mean make sure the polarity of the speakers are connected right?? Ie + to
+ and - to -???


"ZoSo" wrote in message
...
Out of phase?

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just
as good as the infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush
with the door... bracket around the speaker connected to the door to
make it fit flush with the door... did I not say the magic words or
something??? cause bloody hell, it so wasn't worth the money or
effort...

infinity reference 5.25 yadda yadda yadda
 

Ok, there's a lot I want to tell you here.

First, ZoSo sugested that your speakers could be out of phase which isn't a
bad idea and although I'm pretty sure this isn't your primary problem, being
out of phase would definately reduce the amount of midrange and midbass you
are getting. Out of phase basically means one speaker is producing music
180 degrees out of phase with the other, thereby cancelling the sound.
Though this sounds very serious, in practice it is sometimes difficult to
determine if your speakers are out of phase. Simply switch the connections
of ONE of the speakers at the amp (positive to negative and the negative to
positive) and see if the bass improves. If the bass actually goes down,
then switch it back.

Yes, your speakers came with x-overs, but that wasn't what I was talking
about. You will need an x-over (high-pass) going to your infinitys. It
sounds to me that you do not have this and this MAY be the source of most of
your problems. You will need to have a crossover so that frequencies of
about 80 Hz and up go to the Infinitys. You see, your Infinitys (despite
what the box may say), just can't handle anything below 80-90 Hz in any
great quanitity. And no, your Infinitys did NOT come with the type of
crossover I am describing. This will make an INCREDIBLE difference in your
sound, trust me (this may be your whole problem)!

If you hear a lot more distortion out of one of your speakers make sure that
there is nothing behind the speaker (wires, etc.) that might be touching the
cone when the speaker is installed in the door. Also, sometimes the wire
leads that are part of the speaker (they run into the cone) slap against the
side of the cones when you are playing your music loud. If you suspect this
might be happening, a little rubber cement can usually cure this.

Experiment with phasing and look into a high-pass (this means only high
frequency signals can "pass") crossover for your Infinitys and your system
should sound much better.

MOSFET

"Chris" wrote in message
...
ok, did a bit of fiddling... I noticed, my left front speaker is
distorting
alot more than the right.... I took the grills off, shifted all audio to
front right, turned it up till it distorted, backed off a bit... so the
front right is as loud as possible without distortion... I kept the volume
level the same, shifted it from right to left, the front left distorts
like
mad!!! I had to turn the volume down quite a bit to stop the distortion!!.
how can that be when they're connected to the same amp?? is the front left
speaker faulty??? is that the problem?? or am I missing something so
simple?? I checked the polarity of the speaker, seems to be connected
correctly....

Am I missing anything else??

HELP!!! PLEASE


"Chris" wrote in message
...
ok.... ummmm sorry bout this.... but..... out of phase?? Jon, ZoSo???
explain...

once again so sorry, I'm pretty sure it sounds like a brain dead
question,
but not sure what your talking bout... when you say outta phase, do you
mean make sure the polarity of the speakers are connected right?? Ie +
to
+ and - to -???


"ZoSo" wrote in message
...
Out of phase?

"Chris" wrote in message
...
got a set of infinity ref speakers for my front doors; hooked em upto
my
amp.... and must say they sound absolutely rubbish... my god!!! I'm
actually convinced my factory speakers in the front doors sounded just
as good as the infinity's!!! what the hell happened?? they fit flush
with the door... bracket around the speaker connected to the door to
make it fit flush with the door... did I not say the magic words or
something??? cause bloody hell, it so wasn't worth the money or
effort...