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MC_Emily December 1st 03 02:13 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
Hi everyone

I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem and I'm sure the solution
is very simple :o)

Because of the bad weather (!) my horses are spending a lot of their time
inside, so I've got the radio on for them for a bit of 'human' company.
However, the aerial is broken and only has a stubby bit left on, you know,
the bit with the other bit that turns it round. So, at the moment I'm
using, well, I don't know what it is really. I think it's a length of tube
from a caravan awning. It's about 3' long. I found it hanging around and
it seems to work....to a point. I just sort of balance it on the stubby bit
and lean it against the wall. It's certainly better than nothing but the
reception is hopeless! The type of building might not help either - it's
part block, part wood, with a metal roof and concrete floor.

Anyway, I like to have it on Lincs FM (102.2) but like I said the reception
is hopeless - lots of 'squelchy' noises, fading in and out, disappearing
completely then returning at full volume!! And that's if I stand still!!!
Is there anything better I can use as an aerial? Does it need to be higher
up, like close to the roof, to pick up the signal? Or am I just stuck with
this because we're a bit out in the sticks? I'm sure the original aerial
worked better than this!!

Thanks for any help.

Jaqy


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Keith G December 1st 03 02:25 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 

"MC_Emily" wrote in message
...
Hi everyone

I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem and I'm sure the solution
is very simple :o)

Because of the bad weather (!) my horses are spending a lot of their time
inside, so I've got the radio on for them for a bit of 'human' company.
However, the aerial is broken and only has a stubby bit left on, you know,
the bit with the other bit that turns it round. So, at the moment I'm
using, well, I don't know what it is really. I think it's a length of

tube
from a caravan awning. It's about 3' long. I found it hanging around and
it seems to work....to a point. I just sort of balance it on the stubby

bit
and lean it against the wall. It's certainly better than nothing but the
reception is hopeless! The type of building might not help either - it's
part block, part wood, with a metal roof and concrete floor.

Anyway, I like to have it on Lincs FM (102.2) but like I said the

reception
is hopeless - lots of 'squelchy' noises, fading in and out, disappearing
completely then returning at full volume!! And that's if I stand still!!!
Is there anything better I can use as an aerial? Does it need to be

higher
up, like close to the roof, to pick up the signal? Or am I just stuck

with
this because we're a bit out in the sticks? I'm sure the original aerial
worked better than this!!

Thanks for any help.




Easy - get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you can,
yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the straightened
hook part into the stubby remnant of the original aerial, switch on, tune
into to your desired station, swivel the coat hanger until you get the
cleanest reception, turn up the volume to the desired level, give each horse
a Polo mint.

(Experiment with different types of wire coat hanger - some swear the sound
from a silver-finished one is a little on the 'bright' side....)

Enjoy (er, that's to the horses.... ;-).





Keith G December 1st 03 02:25 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 

"MC_Emily" wrote in message
...
Hi everyone

I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem and I'm sure the solution
is very simple :o)

Because of the bad weather (!) my horses are spending a lot of their time
inside, so I've got the radio on for them for a bit of 'human' company.
However, the aerial is broken and only has a stubby bit left on, you know,
the bit with the other bit that turns it round. So, at the moment I'm
using, well, I don't know what it is really. I think it's a length of

tube
from a caravan awning. It's about 3' long. I found it hanging around and
it seems to work....to a point. I just sort of balance it on the stubby

bit
and lean it against the wall. It's certainly better than nothing but the
reception is hopeless! The type of building might not help either - it's
part block, part wood, with a metal roof and concrete floor.

Anyway, I like to have it on Lincs FM (102.2) but like I said the

reception
is hopeless - lots of 'squelchy' noises, fading in and out, disappearing
completely then returning at full volume!! And that's if I stand still!!!
Is there anything better I can use as an aerial? Does it need to be

higher
up, like close to the roof, to pick up the signal? Or am I just stuck

with
this because we're a bit out in the sticks? I'm sure the original aerial
worked better than this!!

Thanks for any help.




Easy - get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you can,
yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the straightened
hook part into the stubby remnant of the original aerial, switch on, tune
into to your desired station, swivel the coat hanger until you get the
cleanest reception, turn up the volume to the desired level, give each horse
a Polo mint.

(Experiment with different types of wire coat hanger - some swear the sound
from a silver-finished one is a little on the 'bright' side....)

Enjoy (er, that's to the horses.... ;-).





Stewart Pinkerton December 1st 03 03:58 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:25:38 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"MC_Emily" wrote in message
...
Hi everyone

I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem and I'm sure the solution
is very simple :o)

Because of the bad weather (!) my horses are spending a lot of their time
inside, so I've got the radio on for them for a bit of 'human' company.
However, the aerial is broken and only has a stubby bit left on, you know,
the bit with the other bit that turns it round. So, at the moment I'm
using, well, I don't know what it is really. I think it's a length of

tube
from a caravan awning. It's about 3' long. I found it hanging around and
it seems to work....to a point. I just sort of balance it on the stubby

bit
and lean it against the wall. It's certainly better than nothing but the
reception is hopeless! The type of building might not help either - it's
part block, part wood, with a metal roof and concrete floor.

Anyway, I like to have it on Lincs FM (102.2) but like I said the

reception
is hopeless - lots of 'squelchy' noises, fading in and out, disappearing
completely then returning at full volume!! And that's if I stand still!!!
Is there anything better I can use as an aerial? Does it need to be

higher
up, like close to the roof, to pick up the signal? Or am I just stuck

with
this because we're a bit out in the sticks? I'm sure the original aerial
worked better than this!!

Thanks for any help.




Easy - get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you can,
yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the straightened
hook part into the stubby remnant of the original aerial, switch on, tune
into to your desired station, swivel the coat hanger until you get the
cleanest reception, turn up the volume to the desired level, give each horse
a Polo mint.

(Experiment with different types of wire coat hanger - some swear the sound
from a silver-finished one is a little on the 'bright' side....)

Enjoy (er, that's to the horses.... ;-).


Aah, so you know about horses and Polo mints! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton December 1st 03 03:58 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:25:38 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"MC_Emily" wrote in message
...
Hi everyone

I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem and I'm sure the solution
is very simple :o)

Because of the bad weather (!) my horses are spending a lot of their time
inside, so I've got the radio on for them for a bit of 'human' company.
However, the aerial is broken and only has a stubby bit left on, you know,
the bit with the other bit that turns it round. So, at the moment I'm
using, well, I don't know what it is really. I think it's a length of

tube
from a caravan awning. It's about 3' long. I found it hanging around and
it seems to work....to a point. I just sort of balance it on the stubby

bit
and lean it against the wall. It's certainly better than nothing but the
reception is hopeless! The type of building might not help either - it's
part block, part wood, with a metal roof and concrete floor.

Anyway, I like to have it on Lincs FM (102.2) but like I said the

reception
is hopeless - lots of 'squelchy' noises, fading in and out, disappearing
completely then returning at full volume!! And that's if I stand still!!!
Is there anything better I can use as an aerial? Does it need to be

higher
up, like close to the roof, to pick up the signal? Or am I just stuck

with
this because we're a bit out in the sticks? I'm sure the original aerial
worked better than this!!

Thanks for any help.




Easy - get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you can,
yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the straightened
hook part into the stubby remnant of the original aerial, switch on, tune
into to your desired station, swivel the coat hanger until you get the
cleanest reception, turn up the volume to the desired level, give each horse
a Polo mint.

(Experiment with different types of wire coat hanger - some swear the sound
from a silver-finished one is a little on the 'bright' side....)

Enjoy (er, that's to the horses.... ;-).


Aah, so you know about horses and Polo mints! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

MC_Emily December 1st 03 04:02 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
Keith G wrote:

Easy


You see, I *knew* it would be LOL

- get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you
can, yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the
straightened hook part into the stubby remnant of the original
aerial, switch on, tune into to your desired station, swivel the coat
hanger until you get the cleanest reception, turn up the volume to
the desired level, give each horse a Polo mint.


Brill, thanks, I'll give it a go tomorrow :o))))

(Experiment with different types of wire coat hanger - some swear the
sound from a silver-finished one is a little on the 'bright' side....)


Okey dokey.

Enjoy (er, that's to the horses.... ;-).


Thank you so much for your help :o)

Jaqy


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MC_Emily December 1st 03 04:02 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
Keith G wrote:

Easy


You see, I *knew* it would be LOL

- get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you
can, yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the
straightened hook part into the stubby remnant of the original
aerial, switch on, tune into to your desired station, swivel the coat
hanger until you get the cleanest reception, turn up the volume to
the desired level, give each horse a Polo mint.


Brill, thanks, I'll give it a go tomorrow :o))))

(Experiment with different types of wire coat hanger - some swear the
sound from a silver-finished one is a little on the 'bright' side....)


Okey dokey.

Enjoy (er, that's to the horses.... ;-).


Thank you so much for your help :o)

Jaqy


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MC_Emily December 1st 03 04:25 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Easy - get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you
can, yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the
straightened hook part into the stubby remnant of the original
aerial, switch on, tune into to your desired station, swivel the
coat hanger until you get the cleanest reception, turn up the volume
to the desired level, give each horse a Polo mint.


Aah, so you know about horses and Polo mints! :-)


Hee-hee. Mine are enjoying chasing Swedes around the stables at the moment
to keep them occupied. The veggies BTW, not the people LOL!!

Jaqy


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MC_Emily December 1st 03 04:25 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Easy - get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you
can, yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the
straightened hook part into the stubby remnant of the original
aerial, switch on, tune into to your desired station, swivel the
coat hanger until you get the cleanest reception, turn up the volume
to the desired level, give each horse a Polo mint.


Aah, so you know about horses and Polo mints! :-)


Hee-hee. Mine are enjoying chasing Swedes around the stables at the moment
to keep them occupied. The veggies BTW, not the people LOL!!

Jaqy


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Mike Gilmour December 1st 03 04:42 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:25:38 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"MC_Emily" wrote in message
...
Hi everyone

I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem and I'm sure the

solution
is very simple :o)

Because of the bad weather (!) my horses are spending a lot of their

time
inside, so I've got the radio on for them for a bit of 'human' company.
However, the aerial is broken and only has a stubby bit left on, you

know,
the bit with the other bit that turns it round. So, at the moment I'm
using, well, I don't know what it is really. I think it's a length of

tube
from a caravan awning. It's about 3' long. I found it hanging around

and
it seems to work....to a point. I just sort of balance it on the

stubby
bit
and lean it against the wall. It's certainly better than nothing but

the
reception is hopeless! The type of building might not help either -

it's
part block, part wood, with a metal roof and concrete floor.

Anyway, I like to have it on Lincs FM (102.2) but like I said the

reception
is hopeless - lots of 'squelchy' noises, fading in and out,

disappearing
completely then returning at full volume!! And that's if I stand

still!!!
Is there anything better I can use as an aerial? Does it need to be

higher
up, like close to the roof, to pick up the signal? Or am I just stuck

with
this because we're a bit out in the sticks? I'm sure the original

aerial
worked better than this!!

Thanks for any help.




Easy - get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you can,
yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the

straightened
hook part into the stubby remnant of the original aerial, switch on, tune
into to your desired station, swivel the coat hanger until you get the
cleanest reception, turn up the volume to the desired level, give each

horse
a Polo mint.

(Experiment with different types of wire coat hanger - some swear the

sound
from a silver-finished one is a little on the 'bright' side....)

Enjoy (er, that's to the horses.... ;-).


Aah, so you know about horses and Polo mints! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering


Hi I'm back. Good idea Keith. Also makes an okay car aerial? :-)
Whats all this about horses & polo mints though? Are they Polo horses
perchance?? or maybe Audiophile horses perhaps that would appreciate the
sound of silver coathangers by that well know manufacturer.....Horse Linn e'
ment ;-)
Groan...
bye





Mike Gilmour December 1st 03 04:42 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 15:25:38 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"MC_Emily" wrote in message
...
Hi everyone

I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem and I'm sure the

solution
is very simple :o)

Because of the bad weather (!) my horses are spending a lot of their

time
inside, so I've got the radio on for them for a bit of 'human' company.
However, the aerial is broken and only has a stubby bit left on, you

know,
the bit with the other bit that turns it round. So, at the moment I'm
using, well, I don't know what it is really. I think it's a length of

tube
from a caravan awning. It's about 3' long. I found it hanging around

and
it seems to work....to a point. I just sort of balance it on the

stubby
bit
and lean it against the wall. It's certainly better than nothing but

the
reception is hopeless! The type of building might not help either -

it's
part block, part wood, with a metal roof and concrete floor.

Anyway, I like to have it on Lincs FM (102.2) but like I said the

reception
is hopeless - lots of 'squelchy' noises, fading in and out,

disappearing
completely then returning at full volume!! And that's if I stand

still!!!
Is there anything better I can use as an aerial? Does it need to be

higher
up, like close to the roof, to pick up the signal? Or am I just stuck

with
this because we're a bit out in the sticks? I'm sure the original

aerial
worked better than this!!

Thanks for any help.




Easy - get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you can,
yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the

straightened
hook part into the stubby remnant of the original aerial, switch on, tune
into to your desired station, swivel the coat hanger until you get the
cleanest reception, turn up the volume to the desired level, give each

horse
a Polo mint.

(Experiment with different types of wire coat hanger - some swear the

sound
from a silver-finished one is a little on the 'bright' side....)

Enjoy (er, that's to the horses.... ;-).


Aah, so you know about horses and Polo mints! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering


Hi I'm back. Good idea Keith. Also makes an okay car aerial? :-)
Whats all this about horses & polo mints though? Are they Polo horses
perchance?? or maybe Audiophile horses perhaps that would appreciate the
sound of silver coathangers by that well know manufacturer.....Horse Linn e'
ment ;-)
Groan...
bye





MC_Emily December 1st 03 05:01 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
Mike Gilmour wrote:

Hi I'm back. Good idea Keith. Also makes an okay car aerial? :-)
Whats all this about horses & polo mints though? Are they Polo
horses perchance??


No, just yer normal type horsey horse :o)

Jaqy


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MC_Emily December 1st 03 05:01 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
Mike Gilmour wrote:

Hi I'm back. Good idea Keith. Also makes an okay car aerial? :-)
Whats all this about horses & polo mints though? Are they Polo
horses perchance??


No, just yer normal type horsey horse :o)

Jaqy


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Mike O'sullivan December 1st 03 05:38 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 

"MC_Emily" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:

Easy


You see, I *knew* it would be LOL

- get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you
can, yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the
straightened hook part into the stubby remnant of the original
aerial, switch on, tune into to your desired station, swivel the coat
hanger until you get the cleanest reception, turn up the volume to
the desired level, give each horse a Polo mint.


Or, you could buy a replacement aerial. this type is available at good radio
spares shops, and are fairly easy to fit.



Mike O'sullivan December 1st 03 05:38 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 

"MC_Emily" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:

Easy


You see, I *knew* it would be LOL

- get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you
can, yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the
straightened hook part into the stubby remnant of the original
aerial, switch on, tune into to your desired station, swivel the coat
hanger until you get the cleanest reception, turn up the volume to
the desired level, give each horse a Polo mint.


Or, you could buy a replacement aerial. this type is available at good radio
spares shops, and are fairly easy to fit.



Stewart Pinkerton December 1st 03 07:06 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:25:36 -0000, "MC_Emily"
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Easy - get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you
can, yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the
straightened hook part into the stubby remnant of the original
aerial, switch on, tune into to your desired station, swivel the
coat hanger until you get the cleanest reception, turn up the volume
to the desired level, give each horse a Polo mint.


Aah, so you know about horses and Polo mints! :-)


Hee-hee. Mine are enjoying chasing Swedes around the stables at the moment
to keep them occupied. The veggies BTW, not the people LOL!!


You can tell the difference between ABBA and root vegetables? :-)

BTW, the coat hanger advice is fine, or you can just trail a long wire
around the place. Purist engineering hell, but it usually works!
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton December 1st 03 07:06 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 17:25:36 -0000, "MC_Emily"
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Easy - get a wire coar hanger, straighten the hook part any way you
can, yank the hanger part into a square with your fingers, jam the
straightened hook part into the stubby remnant of the original
aerial, switch on, tune into to your desired station, swivel the
coat hanger until you get the cleanest reception, turn up the volume
to the desired level, give each horse a Polo mint.


Aah, so you know about horses and Polo mints! :-)


Hee-hee. Mine are enjoying chasing Swedes around the stables at the moment
to keep them occupied. The veggies BTW, not the people LOL!!


You can tell the difference between ABBA and root vegetables? :-)

BTW, the coat hanger advice is fine, or you can just trail a long wire
around the place. Purist engineering hell, but it usually works!
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Ian Bell December 1st 03 08:40 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
MC_Emily wrote:

Hi everyone

I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem and I'm sure the solution
is very simple :o)

Because of the bad weather (!) my horses are spending a lot of their time
inside, so I've got the radio on for them for a bit of 'human' company.
However, the aerial is broken and only has a stubby bit left on, you know,
the bit with the other bit that turns it round. So, at the moment I'm
using, well, I don't know what it is really. I think it's a length of
tube
from a caravan awning. It's about 3' long. I found it hanging around and
it seems to work....to a point. I just sort of balance it on the stubby
bit
and lean it against the wall. It's certainly better than nothing but the
reception is hopeless! The type of building might not help either - it's
part block, part wood, with a metal roof and concrete floor.

Anyway, I like to have it on Lincs FM (102.2) but like I said the
reception is hopeless


Your aerial is too long. The wavelength of 102MHz is about 3 metres and
your aerial is a quarter wave whip, so it should be about 75cms or 30 ins
long in total. Assuming there's about 6 inches inside the radio then your
add on bit should be no longer than about 2 feet.

HTH

Ian


Ian Bell December 1st 03 08:40 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
MC_Emily wrote:

Hi everyone

I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem and I'm sure the solution
is very simple :o)

Because of the bad weather (!) my horses are spending a lot of their time
inside, so I've got the radio on for them for a bit of 'human' company.
However, the aerial is broken and only has a stubby bit left on, you know,
the bit with the other bit that turns it round. So, at the moment I'm
using, well, I don't know what it is really. I think it's a length of
tube
from a caravan awning. It's about 3' long. I found it hanging around and
it seems to work....to a point. I just sort of balance it on the stubby
bit
and lean it against the wall. It's certainly better than nothing but the
reception is hopeless! The type of building might not help either - it's
part block, part wood, with a metal roof and concrete floor.

Anyway, I like to have it on Lincs FM (102.2) but like I said the
reception is hopeless


Your aerial is too long. The wavelength of 102MHz is about 3 metres and
your aerial is a quarter wave whip, so it should be about 75cms or 30 ins
long in total. Assuming there's about 6 inches inside the radio then your
add on bit should be no longer than about 2 feet.

HTH

Ian


MC_Emily December 1st 03 08:46 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Hee-hee. Mine are enjoying chasing Swedes around the stables at the
moment to keep them occupied. The veggies BTW, not the people LOL!!


You can tell the difference between ABBA and root vegetables? :-)


LOL!!

BTW, the coat hanger advice is fine, or you can just trail a long wire
around the place. Purist engineering hell, but it usually works!


Great, thanks :o)

Jaqy


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MC_Emily December 1st 03 08:46 PM

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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Hee-hee. Mine are enjoying chasing Swedes around the stables at the
moment to keep them occupied. The veggies BTW, not the people LOL!!


You can tell the difference between ABBA and root vegetables? :-)


LOL!!

BTW, the coat hanger advice is fine, or you can just trail a long wire
around the place. Purist engineering hell, but it usually works!


Great, thanks :o)

Jaqy


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MC_Emily December 1st 03 09:29 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
Ian Bell wrote:

Your aerial is too long. The wavelength of 102MHz is about 3 metres
and your aerial is a quarter wave whip, so it should be about 75cms
or 30 ins long in total. Assuming there's about 6 inches inside the
radio then your add on bit should be no longer than about 2 feet.


Yikes!! Thanks Ian. I'd never have thought that it could be *too* long.
I'll make sure my coathanger one isn't too big. Thanks again.

Jaqy


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MC_Emily December 1st 03 09:29 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
Ian Bell wrote:

Your aerial is too long. The wavelength of 102MHz is about 3 metres
and your aerial is a quarter wave whip, so it should be about 75cms
or 30 ins long in total. Assuming there's about 6 inches inside the
radio then your add on bit should be no longer than about 2 feet.


Yikes!! Thanks Ian. I'd never have thought that it could be *too* long.
I'll make sure my coathanger one isn't too big. Thanks again.

Jaqy


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malcolm December 2nd 03 01:27 AM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 

"Ian Bell" wrote in message
...
MC_Emily wrote:

Hi everyone

I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem and I'm sure the

solution
is very simple :o)

Because of the bad weather (!) my horses are spending a lot of their

time
inside, so I've got the radio on for them for a bit of 'human' company.
However, the aerial is broken and only has a stubby bit left on, you

know,
the bit with the other bit that turns it round. So, at the moment I'm
using, well, I don't know what it is really. I think it's a length of
tube
from a caravan awning. It's about 3' long. I found it hanging around

and
it seems to work....to a point. I just sort of balance it on the stubby
bit
and lean it against the wall. It's certainly better than nothing but

the
reception is hopeless! The type of building might not help either -

it's
part block, part wood, with a metal roof and concrete floor.

Anyway, I like to have it on Lincs FM (102.2) but like I said the
reception is hopeless


Your aerial is too long. The wavelength of 102MHz is about 3 metres and
your aerial is a quarter wave whip, so it should be about 75cms or 30 ins
long in total. Assuming there's about 6 inches inside the radio then your
add on bit should be no longer than about 2 feet.

HTH

Ian


also depends if theres any inductive loading inline, to make a shorter
Antenna seem longer.



malcolm December 2nd 03 01:27 AM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 

"Ian Bell" wrote in message
...
MC_Emily wrote:

Hi everyone

I'm hoping someone can help me with this problem and I'm sure the

solution
is very simple :o)

Because of the bad weather (!) my horses are spending a lot of their

time
inside, so I've got the radio on for them for a bit of 'human' company.
However, the aerial is broken and only has a stubby bit left on, you

know,
the bit with the other bit that turns it round. So, at the moment I'm
using, well, I don't know what it is really. I think it's a length of
tube
from a caravan awning. It's about 3' long. I found it hanging around

and
it seems to work....to a point. I just sort of balance it on the stubby
bit
and lean it against the wall. It's certainly better than nothing but

the
reception is hopeless! The type of building might not help either -

it's
part block, part wood, with a metal roof and concrete floor.

Anyway, I like to have it on Lincs FM (102.2) but like I said the
reception is hopeless


Your aerial is too long. The wavelength of 102MHz is about 3 metres and
your aerial is a quarter wave whip, so it should be about 75cms or 30 ins
long in total. Assuming there's about 6 inches inside the radio then your
add on bit should be no longer than about 2 feet.

HTH

Ian


also depends if theres any inductive loading inline, to make a shorter
Antenna seem longer.



Dave Plowman December 2nd 03 09:33 AM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
In article ,
MC_Emily wrote:
Is there anything better I can use as an aerial? Does it need to be
higher up, like close to the roof, to pick up the signal? Or am I just
stuck with this because we're a bit out in the sticks? I'm sure the
original aerial worked better than this!!


Maplin do a series of telescopic aerials - one might be a direct
replacement for the original.

--
*Cover me. I'm changing lanes.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Dave Plowman December 2nd 03 09:33 AM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 
In article ,
MC_Emily wrote:
Is there anything better I can use as an aerial? Does it need to be
higher up, like close to the roof, to pick up the signal? Or am I just
stuck with this because we're a bit out in the sticks? I'm sure the
original aerial worked better than this!!


Maplin do a series of telescopic aerials - one might be a direct
replacement for the original.

--
*Cover me. I'm changing lanes.

Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Doki December 4th 03 09:20 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 

Ian Bell wrote in message
...

Your aerial is too long. The wavelength of 102MHz is about 3 metres and
your aerial is a quarter wave whip, so it should be about 75cms or 30 ins
long in total. Assuming there's about 6 inches inside the radio then your
add on bit should be no longer than about 2 feet.


I've got one of those big "T" aerials wired up to my Arcam tuner, it must be
about 6 feet long in total. I presume it works on a different principle as
subjectively reception seems very good on R3, but then the only other radio
I listen to is in the car. Hows that work?



Doki December 4th 03 09:20 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 

Ian Bell wrote in message
...

Your aerial is too long. The wavelength of 102MHz is about 3 metres and
your aerial is a quarter wave whip, so it should be about 75cms or 30 ins
long in total. Assuming there's about 6 inches inside the radio then your
add on bit should be no longer than about 2 feet.


I've got one of those big "T" aerials wired up to my Arcam tuner, it must be
about 6 feet long in total. I presume it works on a different principle as
subjectively reception seems very good on R3, but then the only other radio
I listen to is in the car. Hows that work?



harrogate December 4th 03 11:02 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 

"Doki" wrote in message
...

Ian Bell wrote in message
...

Your aerial is too long. The wavelength of 102MHz is about 3 metres and
your aerial is a quarter wave whip, so it should be about 75cms or 30

ins
long in total. Assuming there's about 6 inches inside the radio then

your
add on bit should be no longer than about 2 feet.


I've got one of those big "T" aerials wired up to my Arcam tuner, it must

be
about 6 feet long in total. I presume it works on a different principle as
subjectively reception seems very good on R3, but then the only other

radio
I listen to is in the car. Hows that work?



On the first paragraph above: the length of the aerial only matters if it is
impedence matched. As most portable radios have a relatively high impedence
input the length of the aerial is largely immaterial - basically the longer
(within reason) the better, although it will have some directionality if it
is anything other than vertical.

As for the 'T' aerial - what you have is probably a half wave dipole, which
for a wavelength of a little more than 3m you would expect to be of the
order of 1.5m or 5ft long.

You don't say if it is vertical or horizontal? If the latter then you would
do well to change it to vertical as when horizontal it is somewhat
directional, whereas vertical it is near omnidirectional. With very few
exceptions all VHF transmitters in the UK now use mixed polarisation for the
benefit of car radios - that is the signal contains both vertical and
horizontal components (actually achieved by placing the transmitter antenna
at 45 deg!)


--
Woody





harrogate December 4th 03 11:02 PM

Best type of aerial for a radio?
 

"Doki" wrote in message
...

Ian Bell wrote in message
...

Your aerial is too long. The wavelength of 102MHz is about 3 metres and
your aerial is a quarter wave whip, so it should be about 75cms or 30

ins
long in total. Assuming there's about 6 inches inside the radio then

your
add on bit should be no longer than about 2 feet.


I've got one of those big "T" aerials wired up to my Arcam tuner, it must

be
about 6 feet long in total. I presume it works on a different principle as
subjectively reception seems very good on R3, but then the only other

radio
I listen to is in the car. Hows that work?



On the first paragraph above: the length of the aerial only matters if it is
impedence matched. As most portable radios have a relatively high impedence
input the length of the aerial is largely immaterial - basically the longer
(within reason) the better, although it will have some directionality if it
is anything other than vertical.

As for the 'T' aerial - what you have is probably a half wave dipole, which
for a wavelength of a little more than 3m you would expect to be of the
order of 1.5m or 5ft long.

You don't say if it is vertical or horizontal? If the latter then you would
do well to change it to vertical as when horizontal it is somewhat
directional, whereas vertical it is near omnidirectional. With very few
exceptions all VHF transmitters in the UK now use mixed polarisation for the
benefit of car radios - that is the signal contains both vertical and
horizontal components (actually achieved by placing the transmitter antenna
at 45 deg!)


--
Woody






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