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Wally December 22nd 03 07:05 PM

Test tones into reflex cab
 
Ian Bell wrote:

Only if you want to *smell* the bass. Now if you used a pair of
Felicity Kendall's nickers that would be a different thing entirely.


I would need two pairs for stereo...


pervert ;-)


I'll take the one pair, then - could you send them in a plain wrapper? ;-)


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Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest addition: Early Works gallery




Wally December 23rd 03 02:06 PM

Test tones into reflex cab
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Yup, this is consistent with my subsequent fiddling with a design
tool. Should I be putting socks in the vents? :-)


I usually do - I find that reflexes generally have 'loose' bass,
although this isn't inherent in the technology.


Are there any other materials worth playing with? Foam rubber? Something
solid?


--
Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest addition: Early Works gallery




Wally December 23rd 03 02:06 PM

Test tones into reflex cab
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Yup, this is consistent with my subsequent fiddling with a design
tool. Should I be putting socks in the vents? :-)


I usually do - I find that reflexes generally have 'loose' bass,
although this isn't inherent in the technology.


Are there any other materials worth playing with? Foam rubber? Something
solid?


--
Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest addition: Early Works gallery




Stewart Pinkerton December 23rd 03 05:24 PM

Test tones into reflex cab
 
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:06:45 -0000, "Wally"
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Yup, this is consistent with my subsequent fiddling with a design
tool. Should I be putting socks in the vents? :-)


I usually do - I find that reflexes generally have 'loose' bass,
although this isn't inherent in the technology.


Are there any other materials worth playing with? Foam rubber? Something
solid?


Yup, a solid plug is very effective in achieving that sealed box sound
from a reflex speaker! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton December 23rd 03 05:24 PM

Test tones into reflex cab
 
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:06:45 -0000, "Wally"
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Yup, this is consistent with my subsequent fiddling with a design
tool. Should I be putting socks in the vents? :-)


I usually do - I find that reflexes generally have 'loose' bass,
although this isn't inherent in the technology.


Are there any other materials worth playing with? Foam rubber? Something
solid?


Yup, a solid plug is very effective in achieving that sealed box sound
from a reflex speaker! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Wally December 24th 03 01:15 PM

Test tones into reflex cab
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Are there any other materials worth playing with? Foam rubber?
Something solid?


Yup, a solid plug is very effective in achieving that sealed box sound
from a reflex speaker! :-)


Unfortunately, the original builder of the cabs put a bunch of narrow slots
in the back panels (to try and increase the apparent volume?). I tried a
sock last night, but can't say I noticed a great deal of difference. I'll
have another play...


--
Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest addition: Early Works gallery




Wally December 24th 03 01:15 PM

Test tones into reflex cab
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Are there any other materials worth playing with? Foam rubber?
Something solid?


Yup, a solid plug is very effective in achieving that sealed box sound
from a reflex speaker! :-)


Unfortunately, the original builder of the cabs put a bunch of narrow slots
in the back panels (to try and increase the apparent volume?). I tried a
sock last night, but can't say I noticed a great deal of difference. I'll
have another play...


--
Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest addition: Early Works gallery




Stewart Pinkerton December 30th 03 04:30 PM

Test tones into reflex cab
 
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:15:23 -0000, "Wally"
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Are there any other materials worth playing with? Foam rubber?
Something solid?


Yup, a solid plug is very effective in achieving that sealed box sound
from a reflex speaker! :-)


Unfortunately, the original builder of the cabs put a bunch of narrow slots
in the back panels (to try and increase the apparent volume?). I tried a
sock last night, but can't say I noticed a great deal of difference. I'll
have another play...


Aaaah, that's an old Gilbert Briggs trick from Wharfedale in the
'fifties. It's known as a 'distributed port', and is a variation on
the reflex theme. The idea was that the port area was distributed over
a large part of the cabinet, and made the port tuning less sharp.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton December 30th 03 04:30 PM

Test tones into reflex cab
 
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:15:23 -0000, "Wally"
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Are there any other materials worth playing with? Foam rubber?
Something solid?


Yup, a solid plug is very effective in achieving that sealed box sound
from a reflex speaker! :-)


Unfortunately, the original builder of the cabs put a bunch of narrow slots
in the back panels (to try and increase the apparent volume?). I tried a
sock last night, but can't say I noticed a great deal of difference. I'll
have another play...


Aaaah, that's an old Gilbert Briggs trick from Wharfedale in the
'fifties. It's known as a 'distributed port', and is a variation on
the reflex theme. The idea was that the port area was distributed over
a large part of the cabinet, and made the port tuning less sharp.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Wally December 30th 03 08:32 PM

Test tones into reflex cab
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Unfortunately, the original builder of the cabs put a bunch of
narrow slots in the back panels (to try and increase the apparent
volume?). I tried a sock last night, but can't say I noticed a great
deal of difference. I'll have another play...


Aaaah, that's an old Gilbert Briggs trick from Wharfedale in the
'fifties. It's known as a 'distributed port', and is a variation on
the reflex theme. The idea was that the port area was distributed over
a large part of the cabinet, and made the port tuning less sharp.


Oh right, it actually has a more technical name than 'a bunch of slots'. I
think I read years ago that it has the effect of making the apparent volume
of the cab a little bigger.

Been playing with more speaker design software, modelling my existing cab
and driver. Don't know if I have all the parameters in correctly (but it
knows about the B139). It shows two distinct peaks in the impedance at 16Hz
and 40Hz (about 50 ohms), with the dip between them centred on 26Hz (15
ohms). Although the software's numbers are hypothetical, these seem pretty
consistent with what I got with the test tones.

An 80L isobaric cab (sealed box) produces a single peak with a shallower
profile at about 34Hz (15 ohms compared to 4 ohms at 100Hz). Unfortunately,
to get the software to put the impedance peak at the driver's resonance (is
that the right thing to do?), I need something like a 300L cab. Even so, the
curve for the 80L looks better than that for the 130L reflex. In both
designs, lots of damping inside the cabinet made the impedance peaks much
smoother.


--
Wally
www.art-gallery.myby.co.uk
Latest addition: Early Works gallery





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