
December 23rd 03, 09:51 AM
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"Roy" wrote in message
"David Houpt" wrote in message
Hi
I haven't posted for a while, but seeing an amplifier get a rave
review when it has a distortion level of 2.3% rising to 4% at full
output provoked me. Its the Graaf GM20 reviewed in the November issue
of Hi Fi World. Yours for a mere £3,300. Is the world going mad? I
though that the idea was that amplifiers had as little distortion as
possible. 0.1% as Harold Leak used to claim.
Sounds OK for a guitar amp.
Oh and if your test material for a £3k amp is Christina Aguilera (see the
review at you're probably
not a full shilling anyway.
Roy.
There is something about that album by Christina Aguilera, that's
different, she's not my cup of tea, but have heard it, and it is challenging
ok!
I do not care what the figures say for any amp, be it a reported 000.5% or
0.5% I go for mark 1 ears
Dave xxxx
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December 23rd 03, 10:33 AM
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:51:23 GMT, "Wendy" wrote:
I do not care what the figures say for any amp, be it a reported 000.5% or
0.5% I go for mark 1 ears
Hi
I completely agree. That's what I try to do. But I just have a
suspicion that if the reviewer had seen the technical write up before
he completed the review he would have been rather less effusive (or
maybe he did?).
Regards
David
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December 23rd 03, 10:33 AM
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 10:51:23 GMT, "Wendy" wrote:
I do not care what the figures say for any amp, be it a reported 000.5% or
0.5% I go for mark 1 ears
Hi
I completely agree. That's what I try to do. But I just have a
suspicion that if the reviewer had seen the technical write up before
he completed the review he would have been rather less effusive (or
maybe he did?).
Regards
David
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December 23rd 03, 12:49 PM
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David Houpt wrote:
Hi
I haven't posted for a while, but seeing an amplifier get a rave
review when it has a distortion level of 2.3% rising to 4% at full
output provoked me. Its the Graaf GM20 reviewed in the November issue
of Hi Fi World. Yours for a mere £3,300. Is the world going mad? I
though that the idea was that amplifiers had as little distortion as
possible. 0.1% as Harold Leak used to claim.
Well if it is predominantly 2nd harmonic it might sound quite nice but not
what you would call accurate.
Ian
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December 23rd 03, 12:49 PM
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David Houpt wrote:
Hi
I haven't posted for a while, but seeing an amplifier get a rave
review when it has a distortion level of 2.3% rising to 4% at full
output provoked me. Its the Graaf GM20 reviewed in the November issue
of Hi Fi World. Yours for a mere £3,300. Is the world going mad? I
though that the idea was that amplifiers had as little distortion as
possible. 0.1% as Harold Leak used to claim.
Well if it is predominantly 2nd harmonic it might sound quite nice but not
what you would call accurate.
Ian
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December 23rd 03, 12:52 PM
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Roy wrote:
"David Houpt" wrote in message
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Hi
I haven't posted for a while, but seeing an amplifier get a rave
review when it has a distortion level of 2.3% rising to 4% at full
output provoked me. Its the Graaf GM20 reviewed in the November issue
of Hi Fi World. Yours for a mere £3,300. Is the world going mad? I
though that the idea was that amplifiers had as little distortion as
possible. 0.1% as Harold Leak used to claim.
Sounds OK for a guitar amp.
Oh and if your test material for a £3k amp is Christina Aguilera (see the
review at http://www.ukd.co.uk/scms/news-detail.asp?PKID=24) you're
probably not a full shilling anyway.
Roy.
The bit in that review I liked best was 'The amp can be run direct from any
CD, SACD or DVD player via a passive preamp'
Isn't passive preamp an oxymoron?
Ian
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December 23rd 03, 12:52 PM
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Roy wrote:
"David Houpt" wrote in message
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Hi
I haven't posted for a while, but seeing an amplifier get a rave
review when it has a distortion level of 2.3% rising to 4% at full
output provoked me. Its the Graaf GM20 reviewed in the November issue
of Hi Fi World. Yours for a mere £3,300. Is the world going mad? I
though that the idea was that amplifiers had as little distortion as
possible. 0.1% as Harold Leak used to claim.
Sounds OK for a guitar amp.
Oh and if your test material for a £3k amp is Christina Aguilera (see the
review at http://www.ukd.co.uk/scms/news-detail.asp?PKID=24) you're
probably not a full shilling anyway.
Roy.
The bit in that review I liked best was 'The amp can be run direct from any
CD, SACD or DVD player via a passive preamp'
Isn't passive preamp an oxymoron?
Ian
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December 23rd 03, 02:05 PM
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:49:04 +0000, Ian Bell
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Well if it is predominantly 2nd harmonic it might sound quite nice but not
what you would call accurate.
Yes, 2nd harmonic primarily as I recall.
David
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December 23rd 03, 02:05 PM
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:49:04 +0000, Ian Bell
wrote:
Well if it is predominantly 2nd harmonic it might sound quite nice but not
what you would call accurate.
Yes, 2nd harmonic primarily as I recall.
David
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December 23rd 03, 05:23 PM
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 13:52:41 +0000, Ian Bell
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Roy wrote:
"David Houpt" wrote in message
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Hi
I haven't posted for a while, but seeing an amplifier get a rave
review when it has a distortion level of 2.3% rising to 4% at full
output provoked me. Its the Graaf GM20 reviewed in the November issue
of Hi Fi World. Yours for a mere £3,300. Is the world going mad? I
though that the idea was that amplifiers had as little distortion as
possible. 0.1% as Harold Leak used to claim.
Not if all competent amps sound the same, so you have to provide some
deliberate degradation to justify the 3 grand ticket!
Sounds OK for a guitar amp.
Oh and if your test material for a £3k amp is Christina Aguilera (see the
review at http://www.ukd.co.uk/scms/news-detail.asp?PKID=24) you're
probably not a full shilling anyway.
Roy.
The bit in that review I liked best was 'The amp can be run direct from any
CD, SACD or DVD player via a passive preamp'
Isn't passive preamp an oxymoron?
I prefer the term 'passive controller', and I use one myself, but an
Oxymoron is someone who couldn't get into Cambridge...... :-)
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
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