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Stimpy January 20th 04 05:10 PM

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Sounds like the perfect example of the hi-fi geek who is more
concerned about the equipment than actually listening to music.
Some of us just love listening to (and, more importantly, playing)
music - 24/7 if possible. Ideally on decent kit but if that's not
available then on whatever's to hand.


Me too, but how can anyone truly appreciate music by listening to half
a dozen completely *different* albums *every* day? That's five to six
*hours* of *new* music every day of his life!!


I don't think anyone said *new* music, but *different* i.e. not the same
8-10 hours of music each day


I could understand if he was a radio DJ with a new playlist to fill
all the time...........


Nope, I'm just a (semi-) retired bloke with a love of music and lots of time
on my hands


Given a choice I'd *rather* play my 59 Les Paul but, fcuk it, if
it's got approximately 6 strings and is in something vaguely
approaching tune then I'll play anything rather than play nothing.

Working for a living and NOT being able to listen to at least half a
dozen
*different* albums *every* day seems sadder to me ;-)


Ah well, I bow to the serious saddos..................


Indeed



Julian Fowler January 20th 04 06:17 PM

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:56:37 +0000 (UTC),
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:41:44 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Nope (and why should I?). Can't imagine what it would be like to
only listen to 200 different discs in the course of a year ...

I can't imagine how sad you have to be, to listen to half a dozen
*different* albums *every* day......................


Sounds like the perfect example of the hi-fi geek who is more concerned
about the equipment than actually listening to music. Some of us just love
listening to (and, more importantly, playing) music - 24/7 if possible.
Ideally on decent kit but if that's not available then on whatever's to
hand.


Me too, but how can anyone truly appreciate music by listening to half
a dozen completely *different* albums *every* day? That's five to six
*hours* of *new* music every day of his life!!


As I said earlier, who's talking about "albums"? My listening
tastes/habits are such that I will more often than not play/listen to
anywhere between 6 and 10 discs in a day, none of which I've ever
listened to before. For example, this is what I'm listening to right
now:

http://db.etree.org/shn/16686

and this is what I was listening to earlier today:

http://db.etree.org/shn/21515

Material and performers which which I'm familiar, but specific
performances/recordings that I'd not previously heard. But yes, that
is "five to six *hours* of *new* music every day" (which, in my book,
is a Good Thing).

Julian

--
Julian Fowler
julian (at) bellevue-barn (dot) org (dot) uk

Ian Molton January 20th 04 09:29 PM

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:51:50 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

the plain
fact is that such 'grace notes' simply do not *exist* in a
single-speaker linear system.


Not so.

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Stewart Pinkerton January 21st 04 07:06 AM

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:10:31 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Sounds like the perfect example of the hi-fi geek who is more
concerned about the equipment than actually listening to music.
Some of us just love listening to (and, more importantly, playing)
music - 24/7 if possible. Ideally on decent kit but if that's not
available then on whatever's to hand.


Me too, but how can anyone truly appreciate music by listening to half
a dozen completely *different* albums *every* day? That's five to six
*hours* of *new* music every day of his life!!


I don't think anyone said *new* music, but *different* i.e. not the same
8-10 hours of music each day


No, my original point was that you can get over 200 entire CDs onto a
hard disk these days. I noted that I don't know anyone who listens to
that much *different* music in a year, and some geek replied that he
listens to 2,000 different disks in an average year. That's the
context.

I could understand if he was a radio DJ with a new playlist to fill
all the time...........


Nope, I'm just a (semi-) retired bloke with a love of music and lots of time
on my hands


Aaah, that would be nice............ :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton January 21st 04 07:08 AM

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 18:07:59 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:


Nope, but once you have more than five hundred or so, you're moving
from music lover to music collector....................


...and the two are necessarily mutually exclusive? I think not!


Please note that this kook is claiming that he listens to 2,000
*different* albums *every* year.................


Still seems perfectly reasonable to me. 30,000+ tracks on a jukebox,
playing minimum 8 hours a day + 8,000 tracks on an iPod + iTrip in the car


I'm not saying it's impossible to achieve, I'm just wondering what
kind of nutter needs that much *new* music in his life?
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton January 21st 04 07:08 AM

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:29:07 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:51:50 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

the plain
fact is that such 'grace notes' simply do not *exist* in a
single-speaker linear system.


Not so.


So so.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Ian Molton January 21st 04 08:13 AM

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:08:32 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

the plain
fact is that such 'grace notes' simply do not *exist* in a
single-speaker linear system.


Not so.


So so.


Play the ****ing sample then

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Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with ketchup.

Wally January 21st 04 12:11 PM

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 
Ian Molton wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:08:32 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

the plain
fact is that such 'grace notes' simply do not *exist* in a
single-speaker linear system.

Not so.


So so.


Play the ****ing sample then


I still can't hear the 50Hz beat frequency on my 400/450Hz sample. I can
hear a 'warble' when I do 450/451 - but is that the same as a tone? If I had
a low-pass filter would I still get the beat if I filtered out the 450 and
451Hz notes?


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com




Keith G January 21st 04 12:57 PM

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:03:11 -0000, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 18:14:30 +0000, Julian Fowler
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 08:05:13 +0000 (UTC),
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:05:14 +0000, Julian Fowler
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 11:51:36 +0000 (UTC),

(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:


You can get at least 200 CDs onto a 120GB hard disk if you insist

on
computer storage, and I don't know *anyone* who listens to more

than
200 different discs in an average year.

RAOTFL ...

A quick estimate suggests that I probably listen to something like
2000 different discs in an average year.

I hope you get paid for that................

Nope (and why should I?). Can't imagine what it would be like to only
listen to 200 different discs in the course of a year ...

I can't imagine how sad you have to be, to listen to half a dozen
*different* albums *every* day......................


Of course, the *audiophile* way is to listen to the *same* half dozen

albums
every single day..... :-)


Made only by RR, Sheffield, Mapleshade, Linn etc, of course! :-)




And don't forget the Shaded Dogs......

;-)





Keith G January 21st 04 01:00 PM

"What HiFi" - can it be trusted?
 

"Ian Molton" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 08:08:32 +0000 (UTC)
(Stewart Pinkerton) wrote:

the plain
fact is that such 'grace notes' simply do not *exist* in a
single-speaker linear system.

Not so.


So so.


Play the ****ing sample then




No, don't tell me - I'll get it!


thinks hard for a moment


Got it! - It was in 'Casablanca', wasn't it.....? (Humphrey Bogart?)

:-)










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