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Old January 30th 04, 06:59 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,alt.audio.equipment
Ian Molton
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:36:17 GMT
"the dead comedian" wrote:

Have you ever experienced problems burning on-the-fly?


Honestly no.

I can burn at 12x whilst playing Quake 3 without burnproof on.

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Old January 30th 04, 07:19 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,alt.audio.equipment
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"the dead comedian" wrote in message


Buying a stand alone recorder drastically simplified the transferring
of vinyl & tapes to CD.


Yes, it simplifies out of existence many important capabilities described
below.


I accept your point here, although I'd like you to at least consider mine -
those capabilities are simply not important for me, none of my records are
that bad. Well, some are a bit crackly (!), it just doesn't bother me.

I use audio CD-RWs when I need to do some
editing on the computer. If I want to make a duplicate CD, I use the
high speed sync-recording. I've never had a problem with these
dubbed copies, but I still wouldn't use them to burn discs I'm
sending in a trade. It also saves time, since I don't have to rip
all the tracks to the HD first or accidentally burn the disc TAO.


The author is solving a non-existent problem. I copy audio CDs routinely

on
my PC. It's a total no-brainer. I click an icon, load the discs, click a
button and the copy happens automatically and properly. The software (EZ

CD
5 or 6 or Nero) does the rest.

I wish my computer worked that well with on-the-fly copies. But it doesn't.

I believe in specialization. My television set is the best way to
watch TV, my stereo is the best way to listen to music, and my laptop
is the best way to surf the web/email/type a document/use a
spreadsheet. Jack of all trades, master of none.


So speaks the voice of mediocrity and inflexibility. You can't do as good

of
a job transcribing other media to CD on stand-alone equipment as you can

do
on a PC.


Well, I'd agree that the pc offers more flexibility if you have the skill,
time, hardware, inclination and software.

For openers, name a CD recorder with the flexible tic and pop
reduction of a PC. Name one that lets you change the loudness of a song
after you've recorded it, but before you burn the CD. Name one that lets

you
edit lead-in noise as accurately and precisely.


The enduring point, at least for lazy sods like me, is that i wouldn't
bother to record music if I didn't have the standalone recorder.

The statement "My television set is the best way to watch TV" ignores the
popularity and power of the Home Theater PC.


I don't really know what you mean here. My computer has certain stuff -
digital tv, analogue tv, posh soundcard and speakers. But I couldn't sit
comfortably and listen to, watch it, in the way I could my stereo or TV.
'Booting up' the television?! 17" 4:3 screen?!, Wires (I've even tried
wireless - straight back to the shop!), Noise? (my pc is supposedly silent -
not), recording stuff (have you tried recording/editing/archiving digital tv
on a pc?!). The technology may be close, I'm just not sure it's arrived.

The statement "My stereo is the best way to listen to music" ignores the
popularity of PCs as music players with vast music libraries.


Again not for me. It's fantastic that people get the same pleasure from
listening to their pc sound as I get from my stereo. I just don't see it.

Rob


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Old January 30th 04, 07:33 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,alt.audio.equipment
Ian Molton
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:19:59 -0000
"RJH" wrote:


The statement "My television set is the best way to watch TV" ignores the
popularity and power of the Home Theater PC.


I don't really know what you mean here. My computer has certain stuff -
digital tv, analogue tv, posh soundcard and speakers. But I couldn't sit
comfortably and listen to, watch it, in the way I could my stereo or TV.


Why? (Ok, YOUR PC may suck, but...)

My little box is truely silent - the discs spin down even. my TVs scanning coils are louder.

and a PC can drive a state of the art amp and speakers, and a screen far better and bigger than your TV.

so why, tell, is it an inferior solution?

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Old January 30th 04, 11:16 AM posted to uk.rec.audio,alt.audio.equipment
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In article ,
the dead comedian wrote:
I believe in specialization. My television set is the best way to watch
TV, my stereo is the best way to listen to music, and my laptop is the
best way to surf the web/email/type a document/use a spreadsheet. Jack
of all trades, master of none.


If you think your TV is the best way to watch a TV picture, you've never
seen the results the system is capable of.

TV sets are consumer goods built down to a price, with all the compromises
that entails.

Also, why use a grotty little laptop when a desktop is so much superior in
every way - apart from portability?

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Old January 29th 04, 08:28 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,alt.audio.equipment
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:32:41 -0000
"Informer" wrote:

I have been burning music CD's on my computer but get distortion on the odd
track at high frequencies.


Learn to make better recordings then...

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Old January 29th 04, 08:40 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,alt.audio.equipment
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"Ian Molton" wrote I have been burning music CD's on my
computer but get distortion on the odd
track at high frequencies.


Learn to make better recordings then...


Funny how every newsgroup has a village idiot on it who thinks he is funny
but contributes nothing!


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Old January 29th 04, 09:13 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,alt.audio.equipment
Ian Molton
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:40:51 -0000
"Informer" wrote:

Funny how every newsgroup has a village idiot on it who thinks he is funny
but contributes nothing!


See my other reply to you.

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Old January 29th 04, 09:52 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,alt.audio.equipment
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:40:51 -0000, Informer wrote:

"Ian Molton" wrote I have been burning music CD's on my
computer but get distortion on the odd
track at high frequencies.


Learn to make better recordings then...


Funny how every newsgroup has a village idiot on it who thinks he is funny
but contributes nothing!



Which word in "learn to make better recordings then" didn't you understand?
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Old January 29th 04, 08:55 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,alt.audio.equipment
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What CD burning software are you using? You should be able to make 'bit
perfect' copies i.e. identical copies using sonething like Clone CD or Nero.

I use CloneCD V4.2.0.2 and cannot tell the difference between a copy and
original.

"Informer" wrote in message
...
System: Rotel RA-02 amplifier, Rotel RCD-02 CD player, Quad 11L speakers,
Pioneer DVD 5100H hard drive/ DVD recorder.



I have been burning music CD's on my computer but get distortion on the

odd
track at high frequencies. I have tried burning at various speeds and

using
various makes of discs but get no improvement. I have now decided to buy

a
purpose built stand-alone hi-fi CD copier and wonder if anyone has used
them.



I have in mind the Sony RCD-W3 twin deck or the Philips CDR796 twin deck.
The recorder will not be connected to the hi-fi as my hi-fi is also
connected to the TV and Skybox and all lives under the TV in the TV

cabinet,
so I have run out of space and will use headphones if needed and then play
the recordings on the Rotel. Can anyone tell me if I can do compilation

CD'
s from more than one CD on these recorders like I can on my PC and has
anyone got any recommendations?




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Old January 29th 04, 09:55 PM posted to uk.rec.audio,alt.audio.equipment
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:55:51 -0000, Westy wrote:

I have been burning music CD's on my computer but get distortion on the

odd
track at high frequencies. I have tried burning at various speeds and

using
various makes of discs but get no improvement. I have now decided to buy

a
purpose built stand-alone hi-fi CD copier and wonder if anyone has used
them.


What CD burning software are you using? You should be able to make 'bit
perfect' copies i.e. identical copies using sonething like Clone CD or Nero.


If the copy isn't perfect, it won't be "high frequency distortion". It'll
be about as subtle as kicking a turntable trying to play a record or
connecting/disconnecting your cables with the system volume turned all
the way up.
 




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