Mains hum pickup on a Pink Triangle deck
 

I have a Pink Triangle record deck with a Rega RB300 arm and Rega
cartridge.

I noticed in the past that there was mains pickup when the arm gets too
near the motor - i.e. nearer to the centre of the record.

Now I have mounted the deck above my CD player, it's picking up hum from
there also.

Can I fix this with some earthing arrangement, or does the deck just
have to be away from any other mains device?

The Amp has an earth stud, but the deck doesn't have one. The deck uses
an outboard PSU for the motor drive.


--
Richard Markham

Mains hum pickup on a Pink Triangle deck
 

On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 19:48:55 +0000, Richard Markham
wrote:

I have a Pink Triangle record deck with a Rega RB300 arm and Rega
cartridge.

I noticed in the past that there was mains pickup when the arm gets too
near the motor - i.e. nearer to the centre of the record.

Now I have mounted the deck above my CD player, it's picking up hum from
there also.

Can I fix this with some earthing arrangement, or does the deck just
have to be away from any other mains device?

The Amp has an earth stud, but the deck doesn't have one. The deck uses
an outboard PSU for the motor drive.

Yup. Pickups have a tendency to ....er....pick up things. Like
electro-magnetic radiation.

You hope that a well-designed turntable will not suffer noticeable
pick-up from its own motor (though, with volume up, you'll always hear
SOME pickup). But, if it's on top of another unit and picks up
audible hum, there's a rather obvious solution.

There's a lot of rubbish spoken about how to mount hi-fi components.
If you advertised a concoction of goat's dung and rancid butter, and
you charged a high enough price, half-a-dozen nutters will swear on
the Bible: "Even my wife heard the difference!" :-)
But a turntable does deserve a firm support, out of the way of being
directly blasted by the speakers, and of other gear's mains
transformers.

Mains hum pickup on a Pink Triangle deck
 

In article ,
Richard Markham wrote:
I have a Pink Triangle record deck with a Rega RB300 arm and Rega
cartridge.

I noticed in the past that there was mains pickup when the arm gets too
near the motor - i.e. nearer to the centre of the record.

Now I have mounted the deck above my CD player, it's picking up hum from
there also.

Can I fix this with some earthing arrangement, or does the deck just
have to be away from any other mains device?

The Amp has an earth stud, but the deck doesn't have one. The deck uses
an outboard PSU for the motor drive.

It usually depends on the type of cartridge - some are much more
susceptible to hum pickup than others. MC types tend to be the best

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Dave Plowman London SW 12
RIP Acorn

Mains hum pickup on a Pink Triangle deck
 

Dear Richard
I ran my Pink with an RB300 for several years without problems but may just
have been lucky with the cartridge. I now have a Zeta which has an earth
wire, absolutely no problems with respect to the motor. You could easily
try running an earth from the arm board to your pre amp to see if this helps
the problem, Rega arms are not earthed but there is nothing to stop you
fitting one. The PT Too power supply is just an amplifier that synthesises
a 50Hz signal and amplifies it up to drive the motor. This should not be a
source of hum but you could check to see if the cable is connected correctly
with a multimeter.
Good luck
Regards Richard Wall
New Ash Green Hi-Fi Club


"Richard Markham" wrote in message
...
I have a Pink Triangle record deck with a Rega RB300 arm and Rega
cartridge.

I noticed in the past that there was mains pickup when the arm gets too
near the motor - i.e. nearer to the centre of the record.

Now I have mounted the deck above my CD player, it's picking up hum from
there also.

Can I fix this with some earthing arrangement, or does the deck just
have to be away from any other mains device?

The Amp has an earth stud, but the deck doesn't have one. The deck uses
an outboard PSU for the motor drive.


--
Richard Markham

Mains hum pickup on a Pink Triangle deck
 

As it happens I have been using the Goat's dung/ rancid butter concoction for
years but have recently discovered that if you wrap those little glass bottles
in your amp' with cooking foil the effect is truly outstanding. Keep on taking
the tablets.

Mains hum pickup on a Pink Triangle deck
 

In article , LOFTYM
writes
As it happens I have been using the Goat's dung/ rancid butter concoction for
years but have recently discovered that if you wrap those little glass bottles
in your amp' with cooking foil the effect is truly outstanding. Keep on taking
the tablets.


That's very useful. Thank you so much for taking the time to post that.
--
Richard Markham

Mains hum pickup on a Pink Triangle deck
 

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:05:10 +0000, Richard Markham
wrote:

As it happens I have been using the Goat's dung/ rancid butter concoction for
years but have recently discovered that if you wrap those little glass bottles
in your amp' with cooking foil the effect is truly outstanding. Keep on taking
the tablets.


That's very useful. Thank you so much for taking the time to post that.

It is, actually. As a warning to anyone tempted to swallow less
obvious audiophile snake-oil :-) There's a lot out there.

Mains hum pickup on a Pink Triangle deck
 

The message
from Laurence Payne contains
these words:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:05:10 +0000, Richard Markham
wrote:

As it happens I have been using the Goat's dung/ rancid butter
concoction for
years but have recently discovered that if you wrap those little
glass bottles
in your amp' with cooking foil the effect is truly outstanding. Keep
on taking
the tablets.


That's very useful. Thank you so much for taking the time to post that.

It is, actually. As a warning to anyone tempted to swallow less
obvious audiophile snake-oil :-) There's a lot out there.

But, back to the topic: classic Pink Triangles are good turntables and
should not be providing motor hum. My original PT certainly doesn't
supply any hum from its DC motor to any carts, including a Rega Bias.
If earthing the tonearm doesn't sort the problem, then I would suggest
getting an MC cart. Perhaps a high output Dynavector. The deck will
respond well to an arm upgrade too, but that's another story.

Mains hum pickup on a Pink Triangle deck
 

On 10 Feb 2004 12:12:35 GMT
(LOFTYM) wrote:

As it happens I have been using the Goat's dung/ rancid butter
concoction for years but have recently discovered that if you wrap
those little glass bottles in your amp' with cooking foil the effect
is truly outstanding.

My amp didnt have any glass bottles so I trid wrapping a plastic pill
bottle in foil and putting it in there.

Now I dont hear any noise. I dont hear anything at all actually. Thanks
for your superb tip on noise reduction.

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ketchup.

Mains hum pickup on a Pink Triangle deck
 

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:05:10 +0000, Richard Markham
wrote:


As it happens I have been using the Goat's dung/ rancid butter concoction for
years but have recently discovered that if you wrap those little glass bottles
in your amp' with cooking foil the effect is truly outstanding. Keep on taking
the tablets.


That's very useful. Thank you so much for taking the time to post that.


It is, actually. As a warning to anyone tempted to swallow less
obvious audiophile snake-oil :-) There's a lot out there.

Why, I have the input valves in my phono stage in shielding cans, whats
wrong with reducing RF pickup ?

--
Nick

Mains hum pickup on a Pink Triangle deck
 

"Nick Gorham" wrote in message
...
Laurence Payne wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 23:05:10 +0000, Richard Markham
wrote:


As it happens I have been using the Goat's dung/ rancid butter
concoction for
years but have recently discovered that if you wrap those little glass
bottles
in your amp' with cooking foil the effect is truly outstanding. Keep on
taking
the tablets.


That's very useful. Thank you so much for taking the time to post that.


It is, actually. As a warning to anyone tempted to swallow less
obvious audiophile snake-oil :-) There's a lot out there.

Why, I have the input valves in my phono stage in shielding cans, whats
wrong with reducing RF pickup ?



Nothing at all.

What many people need to realise is that One Man's Tweak is/can be Another
Man's Poison, but if real benefits are actually 'perceived' then where's the
problem? I think that most 'Snake Oil Squealers' simply can't afford the
upgrade or 'tweak' in question so shoot them down (rather noisily) without
the benefit of personal experience......

Mains hum pickup on a Pink Triangle deck
 

"Richard Markham" wrote in message
...
I have a Pink Triangle record deck with a Rega RB300 arm and Rega
cartridge.

I noticed in the past that there was mains pickup when the arm gets
too
near the motor - i.e. nearer to the centre of the record.

Now I have mounted the deck above my CD player, it's picking up hum
from
there also.

Can I fix this with some earthing arrangement, or does the deck just
have to be away from any other mains device?

The Amp has an earth stud, but the deck doesn't have one. The deck
uses
an outboard PSU for the motor drive.


--
Richard Markham

Richard
Im no expert on this, but I do remember someone else saying the same
thing about a P2 TT.
turns out when he swapped the Raga cartridge for a Grado -problem
gone.

Chris.