Bought a Panasonic SL-SX425 today, and I'm really surprised at how quiet the
audio is even at max volume - about 60% of the level output by my previous
SL-SX500. Do personal CD players have a volume limiter on them now, or have
I bought a pup?

++
Fillyourboots

Kurt Hamster wrote:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 20:33:24 +0000 (UTC), Fillyourboots used
to say...

Bought a Panasonic SL-SX425 today, and I'm really surprised at how
quiet the audio is even at max volume - about 60% of the level
output by my previous SL-SX500. Do personal CD players have a volume
limiter on them now, or have I bought a pup?


In their infinite wisdom the EU have declared that there is volume
limiting on certain portable electronics

Ah, f*ck. Are there any exclusions, or even hacks? and does it apply to MD
and MP3 players too?

++
Fillyourboots

Kurt Hamster wrote:

Well the european version of the iPod is well known to be volume limited
by the EU ****wits. Of course there are hack utilities out for something
like the iPod. I rather doubt there are any for MD though.

It doesn't make financial sense to have a continent full of deafies.

--
Now playing: matt nathanson - laid [192kbps]

"Kurt Hamster" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 01:52:23 +0000, Nick J. used
to say...

Kurt Hamster wrote:

Well the european version of the iPod is well known to be volume
limited
by the EU ****wits. Of course there are hack utilities out for
something
like the iPod. I rather doubt there are any for MD though.

It doesn't make financial sense to have a continent full of deafies.

Shouldn't that be our choice though?

Perhaps only if you agree beforehand that any deafness caused wont be
treated by the NHS.

--
Tumbleweed

Remove theobvious before replying (but no email reply necessary to
newsgroups)

Kurt Hamster wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 01:52:23 +0000, Nick J. used
to say...

Kurt Hamster wrote:

Well the european version of the iPod is well known to be volume limited
by the EU ****wits. Of course there are hack utilities out for something
like the iPod. I rather doubt there are any for MD though.

It doesn't make financial sense to have a continent full of deafies.

Shouldn't that be our choice though?

No. It doesn't make financial sense, for the future prosperity of the EU
and its nations, to be full of deaf folk.

Don't kid yourself that it's about looking after your health; it's about
looking after the financial well-being which keeps the powers that be.

--
Now playing: NINremix [64kbps]

Kurt Hamster wrote:

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:13:09 -0000, Tumbleweed used
to say...


"Kurt Hamster" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 01:52:23 +0000, Nick J. used
to say...

It doesn't make financial sense to have a continent full of deafies.

Shouldn't that be our choice though?

Perhaps only if you agree beforehand that any deafness caused wont be
treated by the NHS.

And what treatment would that be?

Counselling springs to mind, as do hearing aids to assist those with less
severe losses.

--
Now playing: NINremix [64kbps]

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 16:04:00 +0000
"Nick J." wrote:

Don't kid yourself that it's about looking after your health; it's about
looking after the financial well-being which keeps the powers that be.

Besides you can still deafen yourself, theres no law against that.

--
Spyros lair: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with ketchup.

Ian Molton wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 16:04:00 +0000
"Nick J." wrote:

Don't kid yourself that it's about looking after your health; it's about
looking after the financial well-being which keeps the powers that be.

Besides you can still deafen yourself, theres no law against that.

Of course; there are still discotheques and airport runways to linger in and
around.

Those of us with a little more sense always carry protection.

--
Now playing: Billy Bragg - A New England [128kbps]

Kurt Hamster wrote:

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 16:05:00 +0000, Nick J. used
to say...

Kurt Hamster wrote:

On Tue, 3 Feb 2004 08:13:09 -0000, Tumbleweed used
to say...

Perhaps only if you agree beforehand that any deafness caused wont be
treated by the NHS.

And what treatment would that be?

Counselling springs to mind, as do hearing aids to assist those with less
severe losses.

Oh you mean the normal "sorry mate, you've got tinnitus, there's not an
awful lot we can do for that"?

What about the effects of tinnitus? e.g. It's possible that one could lose
their job as a result of developing the condition. Being faced with the
dole (and having to find work) after a lengthy spell in employment might
come as a shock.

--
Now playing: The Waterboys - The Whole Of The Moon [128kbps]

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 16:50:47 +0000
"Nick J." wrote:

Besides you can still deafen yourself, theres no law against that.

Of course; there are still discotheques and airport runways to linger
in and around.

Of course the law limiting output levels is a nonsense because it takes
no account of the sensitivity of the drivers in use. all it really does
is stop people using high quality (but insensitive) drivers, as those
who like to be deafened will simply buy higly sensitive drivers that get
the rave reviews because they are 'louder than ever' ;-)

--
Spyros lair: http://www.mnementh.co.uk/ |||| Maintainer: arm26 linux

Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are tasty and good with
ketchup.