
February 22nd 04, 07:22 PM
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FA/FS: Ebay - Pioneer PD-S901 - CD Player/Transport - MINT (40hrs use)
"Dorothy Bradbury" wrote in message
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FA/FS: Ebay - Pioneer PD-S901 - CD Player/Transport - MINT (40hrs use)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=3079900354
o Under 40hrs use, mint, put into storage
o Includes unused manual
o Includes remote (minimalist player like A-400 amplifier, lights-out etc)
Thanks.
I'm a bit mystified, perhaps you could enlighten me - unless I'm dreaming*
this item was bid on (went to £62 if I'm not mistaken?) now its back 'ended
with no bids' but still available 'Buy it now' for £79.99...
How does that work?
*Er, I'm not, btw....
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February 22nd 04, 07:46 PM
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FA/FS: Ebay - Pioneer PD-S901 - CD Player/Transport - MINT (40hrs use)
The item was advertised in several places, with one resulting in a sale
and hence my ending the auction as soon as that it was confirmed.
Unfortunately between the sale being confirmed, and my ending the
auction, 2 people had bid on it and 9 others had made enquiries.
All bidders & enquirers were emailed accordingly.
Afraid I only have the 1 available for sale. Sorry.
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Dorothy Bradbury
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February 22nd 04, 10:39 PM
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FA/FS: Ebay - Pioneer PD-S901 - CD Player/Transport - MINT (40hrs use)
It isn't normal auction practice, indeed the delay in doing it was due to
my inability to even find how to do it since I've never done it before.
It can't be done in the last 12hrs of an auction, I think from reading it.
It is useful if you detect something wrong in an item - or sell it across
several other websites (cars, property, press adverts, newsagent ads).
Also, it allows you to cancel an ad if you make a material error - such as
list a laptop as P4-2.4 when it's Cel-2.4, or a device is USB1 not USB2.
You can use it to end an auction early to someone, for example if you are
going away on holiday or a business trip crops up and you will not be around
to handle the transaction in a timely manner. That impacts on late bidders tho,
altho can mean if they bid early they get the item much cheaper - so win there.
Where Ebay is just one advert channel out of many, and only one/few items are
available it can result in an auction being pulled (or conversely another elsewhere).
In that instance ensuring people know as soon as possible is best, so bidders at
least have the chance of bidding on similar or identical items elsewhere quickly.
As always, check feedback similarly - bidding is just the part of the process.
Comes down to how common the item is, you could list an item on Ebay for
months and never see a relevant buyer - which forces you to use Ebay as just
one advertising medium of many, simply to get the right eyeball catchment.
I was surprised at the interest.
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Dorothy Bradbury
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February 23rd 04, 02:02 AM
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FA/FS: Ebay - Pioneer PD-S901 - CD Player/Transport - MINT (40hrs use)
"Dorothy Bradbury" wrote in message
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It isn't normal auction practice, indeed the delay in doing it was due to
my inability to even find how to do it since I've never done it before.
It can't be done in the last 12hrs of an auction, I think from reading it.
It is useful if you detect something wrong in an item - or sell it across
several other websites (cars, property, press adverts, newsagent ads).
Also, it allows you to cancel an ad if you make a material error - such as
list a laptop as P4-2.4 when it's Cel-2.4, or a device is USB1 not USB2.
You can use it to end an auction early to someone, for example if you are
going away on holiday or a business trip crops up and you will not be
around
to handle the transaction in a timely manner. That impacts on late bidders
tho,
altho can mean if they bid early they get the item much cheaper - so win
there.
Where Ebay is just one advert channel out of many, and only one/few items
are
available it can result in an auction being pulled (or conversely another
elsewhere).
In that instance ensuring people know as soon as possible is best, so
bidders at
least have the chance of bidding on similar or identical items elsewhere
quickly.
As always, check feedback similarly - bidding is just the part of the
process.
Comes down to how common the item is, you could list an item on Ebay for
months and never see a relevant buyer - which forces you to use Ebay as
just
one advertising medium of many, simply to get the right eyeball catchment.
I was surprised at the interest.
--
Dorothy Bradbury
OK, first off, my apologies for a delayed response - I've been watching my
eBay bids come in (4 wins today, no losses - all LPs).
When you posted notice of your auction in this group I added it to 'my eBay'
and was watching it along with a number of other items - I saw that you
pretty soon got a reasonable bid from someone of £62. Not long afterwards
the auction was ended (no bother to me - anyone here will tell you I'm not
exactly a big buyer of CD equipment!) but it looked like it was still
available for the 'Buy It Now' price, which mystified me. I can see now that
this simply remains on the auction page after the auction has ended (or been
ended) for some odd reason.
I have to say (evil-minded sod that I am) that, for a moment, it looked the
auction had been ended simply because the it looked like the bids wouldn't
reach the 'Buy It Now' price and that ending the auction was an easy way to
ensure a certain minimum price for the item without running the risk of
incurring 'Reserve Not Met' fees???
What I would say is that if you advertise items on eBay that are also up for
sale elsewhere without the phrase 'subject to availablity' or summat like
'only while stocks last' and simply yank an auction out from someone who has
put a bid in, you run the risk of losing your credibility with ordinary eBay
punters like me. If it had been my bid you pulled the auction on (for
whatever reason) I would be totally ignoring anything from 'jabf2000' from
now on...
FWIW, it may interest you to know that I was talking to a local 'hifi
dealer' the other day (who is more than a bit 'fly' himself) who said
anything he eBayed was considered 'already sold' until the auction had
ended, even if he was offered more money than was expected from the
auction....!!
Just my 2 penn'orth....
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February 23rd 04, 12:38 PM
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FA/FS: Ebay - Pioneer PD-S901 - CD Player/Transport - MINT (40hrs use)
"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Dorothy Bradbury" wrote in message
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When you posted notice of your auction in this group I added it to 'my
eBay'
and was watching it along with a number of other items - I saw that you
pretty soon got a reasonable bid from someone of £62. Not long afterwards
the auction was ended (no bother to me - anyone here will tell you I'm not
exactly a big buyer of CD equipment!) but it looked like it was still
available for the 'Buy It Now' price, which mystified me. I can see now
that
this simply remains on the auction page after the auction has ended (or
been
ended) for some odd reason.
I have to say (evil-minded sod that I am) that, for a moment, it looked
the
auction had been ended simply because the it looked like the bids wouldn't
reach the 'Buy It Now' price and that ending the auction was an easy way
to
ensure a certain minimum price for the item without running the risk of
incurring 'Reserve Not Met' fees???
What I would say is that if you advertise items on eBay that are also up
for
sale elsewhere without the phrase 'subject to availablity' or summat like
'only while stocks last' and simply yank an auction out from someone who
has
put a bid in, you run the risk of losing your credibility with ordinary
eBay
punters like me. If it had been my bid you pulled the auction on (for
whatever reason) I would be totally ignoring anything from 'jabf2000' from
now on...
Keith,
Ending an auction early is not unheard of and isn't necessarily something to
be
suspicious of, the advertiser might have an ad in a local paper, and pull
the auction
if it's sold, saves on all that bother with the Post Office etc.
There is no indication of a possible final price until about the last
minute/seconds
of an Ebay Auction so pulling because you think it might not reach price or
cost you fees is simply a waste of time for both sides.
I have dealt with Dorothy in the past, and she has gone beyond the call of
duty,
I have no hesitation in recommending dealing with her.
My Ebay ID is 56samba if you want to cross ref!
Damon.
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February 23rd 04, 12:59 PM
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FA/FS: Ebay - Pioneer PD-S901 - CD Player/Transport - MINT (40hrs use)
I have to say (evil-minded sod that I am) that, for a moment, it looked the
auction had been ended simply because the it looked like the bids wouldn't
reach the 'Buy It Now' price and that ending the auction was an easy way to
ensure a certain minimum price for the item without running the risk of
incurring 'Reserve Not Met' fees???
?? You are making a chain of assumptions all of which are wrong.
o There was No Reserve on the auction
o There were 4 enquirers who all wanted to pay B-I-N
#1 - who was the first and won by the clock
---- they actually got the 2nd lower B-I-N price as I revised the auction
#2 - clicked Bid when they actually wanted B-I-N
---- they immediately emailed asking me to cancel their bid so they could B-I-N
---- by the clock, their original bid was after the first buyer
#3 - wanted to B-I-N but first check shipping
---- non-mainland, so wanted to know shipping to Non-NIre-Postcode
#4 - wanted to B-I-N but would I use their chosen courier & they'd pay original B-I-N
---- no-one at home, so Securicor Omega which I solely use is no use to them
---- they have purchased from me before (UPS), and know I dislike ParcelForce
---- they wanted ParcelForce24 who will redirect to a collect-from-post-office
So the suggestion it wasn't going to reach the B-I-N price is wrong.
Your entitled to your opinion, but I am entitled to the truth.
I trust that clarifies - as does my feedback.
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Dorothy Bradbury
www.stores.ebay.co.uk/panaflofan for fans, books & other items
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dorothy...ry/panaflo.htm (Direct)
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February 23rd 04, 01:03 PM
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FA/FS: Ebay - Pioneer PD-S901 - CD Player/Transport - MINT (40hrs use)
Incidentally, for those after a PD-S901, do a google.
There are some Hi-Fi resellers who have some still, both new & refurbished(*)
(*) Check whether that is factory refurbished or exactly what's been done.
Thanks.
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Dorothy Bradbury
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February 23rd 04, 03:09 PM
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FA/FS: Ebay - Pioneer PD-S901 - CD Player/Transport - MINT (40hrs use)
"damon green" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message
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"Dorothy Bradbury" wrote in message
news:k4b_b.18239$ft.17767@newsfe1-win...
When you posted notice of your auction in this group I added it to 'my
eBay'
and was watching it along with a number of other items - I saw that you
pretty soon got a reasonable bid from someone of £62. Not long
afterwards
the auction was ended (no bother to me - anyone here will tell you I'm
not
exactly a big buyer of CD equipment!) but it looked like it was still
available for the 'Buy It Now' price, which mystified me. I can see now
that
this simply remains on the auction page after the auction has ended (or
been
ended) for some odd reason.
I have to say (evil-minded sod that I am) that, for a moment, it looked
the
auction had been ended simply because the it looked like the bids
wouldn't
reach the 'Buy It Now' price and that ending the auction was an easy way
to
ensure a certain minimum price for the item without running the risk of
incurring 'Reserve Not Met' fees???
What I would say is that if you advertise items on eBay that are also up
for
sale elsewhere without the phrase 'subject to availablity' or summat
like
'only while stocks last' and simply yank an auction out from someone who
has
put a bid in, you run the risk of losing your credibility with ordinary
eBay
punters like me. If it had been my bid you pulled the auction on (for
whatever reason) I would be totally ignoring anything from 'jabf2000'
from
now on...
Keith,
Ending an auction early is not unheard of and isn't necessarily something
to
be
suspicious of, the advertiser might have an ad in a local paper, and pull
the auction
if it's sold, saves on all that bother with the Post Office etc.
There is no indication of a possible final price until about the last
minute/seconds
of an Ebay Auction so pulling because you think it might not reach price
or
cost you fees is simply a waste of time for both sides.
I have dealt with Dorothy in the past, and she has gone beyond the call of
duty,
I have no hesitation in recommending dealing with her.
My Ebay ID is 56samba if you want to cross ref!
Damon.
Thanks for all that Damon - I appreciate what you say, but I still stick to
my own opinion that if an item on eBay proves to be not *truly* available to
the bidders then that auction could (and apparently did) lead to waste of a
bidder's time, bitter disappointment and (who knows?) ultimately lead to a
total emotional breakdown???
(At any rate *my* faith in the Seller has been broken and I almost certainly
wouldn't bother to bid on future auctions!)
If it had been ended by a 'Buy It Now' and said as such, then it would have
been a different story and no harm done......
I repeat what I said in an earlier post, even the local 'shyster' hifi
dealer considers an item to be exclusively available to eBay while the
auction is in progress......
(Other people's M obviously does V......???)
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