LP12 - replacing tonearm cable?
 

I'm considering replacing the tonearm cable in my LP12 (Ittok
LVII/Arkiv/Lingo/Microgroove+ phono stage) most likely with a Russ Andrews
TAK-Cu. Anybody got any opinions? It seems like a sensible kind of
upgrade, but I'm a little wary of Russ Andrews because he seems to sell a
lot of - in my opinion - snake oil. (£900 mains cables, mains purifiers
etc.)

ta


Rob

BTW I wouldn't be fitting it myself - the deck's due a service, and I'd have
it fitted professionally then.

LP12 - replacing tonearm cable?
 

In article ,
Rob Fisher wrote:

I'm considering replacing the tonearm cable in my LP12 (Ittok
LVII/Arkiv/Lingo/Microgroove+ phono stage) most likely with a Russ Andrews
TAK-Cu. Anybody got any opinions? It seems like a sensible kind of
upgrade, but I'm a little wary of Russ Andrews because he seems to sell a
lot of - in my opinion - snake oil. (£900 mains cables, mains purifiers
etc.)

BTW I wouldn't be fitting it myself - the deck's due a service, and I'd have
it fitted professionally then.

I haven't heard the Kimber you refer to, but I think it should work. Let
me know if it does: I have a similar LP12 (Ittok LVII/Arkiv/Valhalla).

Kimber may be pricier in the UK. The TAK-Cu is about $250 here.

Isn't there a new Linn tonearm cable? I couldn't find it on the website.

Stephen

LP12 - replacing tonearm cable?
 

In article , Rob
Fisher wrote:
I'm considering replacing the tonearm cable in my LP12 (Ittok
LVII/Arkiv/Lingo/Microgroove+ phono stage) most likely with a Russ
Andrews TAK-Cu. Anybody got any opinions? It seems like a sensible kind
of upgrade,

Can you say what it is about the existing cables that leads pun :-) you
to conclude that they require replacement or 'upgrade'?

Slainte,

Jim

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LP12 - replacing tonearm cable?
 

Rob Fisher wrote:
I'm considering replacing the tonearm cable in my LP12 (Ittok
LVII/Arkiv/Lingo/Microgroove+ phono stage) most likely with a Russ
Andrews TAK-Cu. Anybody got any opinions? It seems like a sensible
kind of upgrade, but I'm a little wary of Russ Andrews because he
seems to sell a lot of - in my opinion - snake oil. (£900 mains
cables, mains purifiers etc.)

If it's not broke...

LP12 - replacing tonearm cable?
 

Rob Fisher wrote:
I'm considering replacing the tonearm cable in my LP12 (Ittok
LVII/Arkiv/Lingo/Microgroove+ phono stage) most likely with a Russ
Andrews TAK-Cu. Anybody got any opinions? It seems like a sensible
kind of upgrade, but I'm a little wary of Russ Andrews because he
seems to sell a lot of - in my opinion - snake oil. (£900 mains
cables, mains purifiers etc.)

ta


Rob

BTW I wouldn't be fitting it myself - the deck's due a service, and
I'd have it fitted professionally then.

Depending on your cartridge MM MC depends which RA cables you can use the
cheaper of his cables, only works with MC cartridge I think.



--
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http://www.davewhitter.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
Steam is Fun

LP12 - replacing tonearm cable?
 

Rob Fisher said:

I'm considering replacing the tonearm cable in my LP12 (Ittok
LVII/Arkiv/Lingo/Microgroove+ phono stage) most likely with a Russ Andrews
TAK-Cu. Anybody got any opinions? It seems like a sensible kind of
upgrade, but I'm a little wary of Russ Andrews because he seems to sell a
lot of - in my opinion - snake oil. (£900 mains cables, mains purifiers
etc.)
BTW I wouldn't be fitting it myself - the deck's due a service, and I'd have
it fitted professionally then.

I don't have experience with the cable you mention, but I rewired my
Rega RB300 myself with silvercable by Siltech.
That made a difference with the MM cart I used at that time.
I don't know if it will matter much with MC carts, since the low
impedances involved probably won't allow the cable's properties to
interfere with the signal.

One other tip: let your repairman fit 2 cinch connectors at the back
of the turntable and have the arm wiring mounted directly on them.
This way, you can experiment with different interlinks yourself btw.
turntable and preamp.
Also, this comes in handy when you have to remove the TT (happens all
the time here g).

--
Sander deWaal
Vacuum Audio Consultancy

LP12 - replacing tonearm cable?
 

Can you say what it is about the existing cables that leads pun :-) you
to conclude that they require replacement or 'upgrade'?


Nothing really. I think I've got that "need to upgrade" itch!

I am thinking though that in the twenty or so years since my turntable was
made, cable technology might have moved on a bit. The existing wires and
plugs really don't look up to much, and they do carry the most important
and low-level signal in the system. The arm, the cartridge and the phono
stage have all been upgraded, but the signal still goes through the same
wire.

I'm pretty skeptical about plugs and cables, which is why I canvassed for
opinion, but there does seem to be a certain logic in having this
particular bit of wire be the best shielded one in the system.



Rob

LP12 - replacing tonearm cable?
 

In article , Rob
Fisher wrote:
Can you say what it is about the existing cables that leads pun :-)
you to conclude that they require replacement or 'upgrade'?


Nothing really. I think I've got that "need to upgrade" itch!

Based on my own experience and understanding - If you want a better sound
my personal reaction would be to focus on the speakers, or perhaps the
cartridge... If your cartridge has a low output impedance I would not
expect a change of cable to do as much as a change of speakers - or even as
much as moving your listening position.

I am thinking though that in the twenty or so years since my turntable
was made, cable technology might have moved on a bit. The existing wires
and plugs really don't look up to much, and they do carry the most
important and low-level signal in the system. The arm, the cartridge and
the phono stage have all been upgraded, but the signal still goes
through the same wire.

If the connectors have tarnished they may require replacement. However I
have my doubts that cable technology has "moved on a bit" in a way that
will produce a significant improvement if you original cables are OK.

I'm pretty skeptical about plugs and cables, which is why I canvassed
for opinion, but there does seem to be a certain logic in having this
particular bit of wire be the best shielded one in the system.

Can you hear any hum with the volume set to normal levels and no LP
playing?

When playing an LP with the volume wound up on a quiet passage, is the hum
distinctly louder than the background noise/rumble?

When not playing an LP do you hear any 'plops' or 'clicks'? Or do you
sometimes get local taxi firms, etc, audible via the LP input?

If the answers to the above are "no" then - unless you have some other
reason - there seems to be no reason to feel you need better shielding for
these cables.

If any answer is "yes", then a change of cable *might* be useful. But the
problem may come from elsewhere, so this would not be a certain sign.

I'd agree that this is where the signal level is very low and so needs
careful shielding and conveying. However my experience is that people have
been making cables that do this just fine in most circumstances for
decades. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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LP12 - replacing tonearm cable?
 

"Rob Fisher" wrote in message
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I'm considering replacing the tonearm cable in my LP12 (Ittok
LVII/Arkiv/Lingo/Microgroove+ phono stage) most likely with a Russ Andrews
TAK-Cu. Anybody got any opinions? It seems like a sensible kind of
upgrade, but I'm a little wary of Russ Andrews because he seems to sell a
lot of - in my opinion - snake oil. (£900 mains cables, mains purifiers
etc.)


Nothing wrong with Russ Andrews !
He's a good dude !

If you are contemplating an Ittok re-wire you might as well do it properly
and replace all the arm wire. Get rid of the connections and have a
continuous run from cartridge pins to RCA's.

Internally damp the tizzy Ittok armtube at the same time.

;)

http://www.n.mackie.btinternet.co.uk...tml#upgradearm

LP12 - replacing tonearm cable?
 

"Rob Fisher" wrote in message
...
I'm considering replacing the tonearm cable in my LP12 (Ittok
LVII/Arkiv/Lingo/Microgroove+ phono stage) most likely with a Russ Andrews
TAK-Cu. Anybody got any opinions? It seems like a sensible kind of
upgrade, but I'm a little wary of Russ Andrews because he seems to sell a
lot of - in my opinion - snake oil. (£900 mains cables, mains purifiers
etc.)


IF you are still using the original cartridge leads that came with the Ittok
then change them!
Buy some SME Silver litz leads then thank me later.

You will hear much more treble (aka detail), *deeper* into the bass and
record surface noise and scratches.

Steve