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Fleetie June 26th 04 07:14 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
I just got a pair today.

OMFG! They sound so, so, so detailed and revealing in the treble!

I'm in love! Plus I got 50 quid off for no apparent reason.

And these are lower-end Dynaudios! One can only wonder what the
expensive stuff can do!

I have achieved audio contentment! They sound fan-TAS-tic!

Perhaps a touch glassy sometimes with "s" sounds, but otherwise very
nice indeed in the treble, which is by far and away the part that I
care about most.

Better sell on my Mission 752Fs and Cyrus II to defray some of the
cost of these recent expensive purchases!


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk



Tim S Kemp June 26th 04 07:20 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
Fleetie wrote:
I just got a pair today.

OMFG! They sound so, so, so detailed and revealing in the treble!

I'm in love! Plus I got 50 quid off for no apparent reason.

And these are lower-end Dynaudios! One can only wonder what the
expensive stuff can do!


Their studio stuff is wonderful. Dynaudio is probably the best value
speakers money can buy - you can't accuse them of being overpriced for the
performance. Well done on the choice.

Now if only I could afford some...


--
Flippity Floppity Flip. The mouse on the Mobius strip. The strip
revolved, the mouse dissolved in a chronodimensional slip.



Stewart Pinkerton June 26th 04 08:57 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:14:42 +0100, "Fleetie"
wrote:

I just got a pair today.

OMFG! They sound so, so, so detailed and revealing in the treble!


Quite so.

I'm in love! Plus I got 50 quid off for no apparent reason.


They're not fashionable.

And these are lower-end Dynaudios! One can only wonder what the
expensive stuff can do!


Actually not any better, just more bass.

I have achieved audio contentment! They sound fan-TAS-tic!


Indeed.

Perhaps a touch glassy sometimes with "s" sounds, but otherwise very
nice indeed in the treble, which is by far and away the part that I
care about most.


Well, the Contours are only *fractionally* better, and big planars
take up an awful lot of room.......................

Better sell on my Mission 752Fs and Cyrus II to defray some of the
cost of these recent expensive purchases!


Good luck - you can then afford more 52s for the rear channels, and
enjoy the only *real* advance in music reproduction in the last 20
years.....................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Keith G June 26th 04 10:05 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:14:42 +0100, "Fleetie"
wrote:

I just got a pair today.

OMFG! They sound so, so, so detailed and revealing in the treble!


Quite so.

I'm in love! Plus I got 50 quid off for no apparent reason.


They're not fashionable.



Also, in the context of 'bang for your buck', they are very expensive for a
tiny, wee box - poor perception of VFM by the 'uninformed' and therefore not
selling too well, I suspect.....


Well, the Contours are only *fractionally* better, and big planars
take up an awful lot of room.......................



I auditioned a pair of Contour 1,1s for a few days - quite the best
bookshelf speaker I have *ever* heard and a beautiful veneered finish but,
again, not cheap.



Better sell on my Mission 752Fs and Cyrus II to defray some of the
cost of these recent expensive purchases!


Good luck - you can then afford more 52s for the rear channels, and
enjoy the only *real* advance in music reproduction in the last 20
years.....................



I hope you don't mean 'surround sound'........???







Keith G June 26th 04 10:26 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 

"Fleetie" wrote in message
news:cPkDc.146$MI2.36@newsfe6-win...
I just got a pair today.

OMFG! They sound so, so, so detailed and revealing in the treble!

I'm in love! Plus I got 50 quid off for no apparent reason.

And these are lower-end Dynaudios! One can only wonder what the
expensive stuff can do!

I have achieved audio contentment! They sound fan-TAS-tic!

Perhaps a touch glassy sometimes with "s" sounds, but otherwise very
nice indeed in the treble, which is by far and away the part that I
care about most.

Better sell on my Mission 752Fs and Cyrus II to defray some of the
cost of these recent expensive purchases!




How's yer new amp coming along, Martin?

(Can't be too shabby if you're talking about selling the Cyrus! :-)






Stewart Pinkerton June 27th 04 06:12 AM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 23:05:52 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:14:42 +0100, "Fleetie"
wrote:

I just got a pair today.

OMFG! They sound so, so, so detailed and revealing in the treble!


Quite so.

I'm in love! Plus I got 50 quid off for no apparent reason.


They're not fashionable.


Also, in the context of 'bang for your buck', they are very expensive for a
tiny, wee box - poor perception of VFM by the 'uninformed' and therefore not
selling too well, I suspect.....


Yup, some people just haven't 'got' the sub/sat thing yet! Stick a
good sub on a pair of 52SEs, and you are up there with the best at
*any* price.

Well, the Contours are only *fractionally* better, and big planars
take up an awful lot of room.......................


I auditioned a pair of Contour 1,1s for a few days - quite the best
bookshelf speaker I have *ever* heard and a beautiful veneered finish but,
again, not cheap.


A very fine speaker indeed, but note that the SE version of the 52
uses the same drivers, so the sonic difference is not great.

Better sell on my Mission 752Fs and Cyrus II to defray some of the
cost of these recent expensive purchases!


Good luck - you can then afford more 52s for the rear channels, and
enjoy the only *real* advance in music reproduction in the last 20
years.....................



I hope you don't mean 'surround sound'........???


I mean multi-channel sound, which makes a *huge* difference to realism
if you have a good system - and some decently mastered recordings.
Even good ol' DSOTM takes on a new lease of life!
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Fleetie June 27th 04 12:14 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote
Yup, some people just haven't 'got' the sub/sat thing yet! Stick a
good sub on a pair of 52SEs, and you are up there with the best at
*any* price.

Well, the Contours are only *fractionally* better, and big planars
take up an awful lot of room.......................


I auditioned a pair of Contour 1,1s for a few days - quite the best
bookshelf speaker I have *ever* heard and a beautiful veneered finish but,
again, not cheap.


A very fine speaker indeed, but note that the SE version of the 52
uses the same drivers, so the sonic difference is not great.


Well, it's good to hear that it's not just me who thinks they're
amazing.

Can't remember if I said this already, but as soon as I switched on
the CD player and got the first track going, and as I was moving away
from the CD player to stand and listen in the proper position, I
instantly heard all this "airy" sound coming out of the speakers, a kind
of airy ambience. The track was Fleetwood Mac "Storms", and there's quite a
bit of "breathy" background stuff going on, and it really did come
through fantastically.

I love 'em! Felt even more decadent just now, cos of course now I've
got the TV hooked up to my new amp AND sexxy speakers. Listening to
TV through that lot?! A bit overkill! Sound quality of TV really is
naff!


Martin - happy
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk



tony sayer June 27th 04 01:07 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
I love 'em! Felt even more decadent just now, cos of course now I've
got the TV hooked up to my new amp AND sexxy speakers. Listening to
TV through that lot?! A bit overkill! Sound quality of TV really is
naff!


Is that via analogue or DTV?.....

--
Tony Sayer


Fleetie June 27th 04 01:25 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
"tony sayer" wrote
I love 'em! Felt even more decadent just now, cos of course now I've
got the TV hooked up to my new amp AND sexxy speakers. Listening to
TV through that lot?! A bit overkill! Sound quality of TV really is
naff!


Is that via analogue or DTV?.....

--
Tony Sayer


Derrm, well, it comes ultimately from my NTL set-top-box. Sometimes
I hear compression artefacts.

There's a hell of a lot of compression on the video as well. If I sit
near-ish to the TV, it's very apparent that the pic is divided up into
basically "boxes", near-squares, perhaps 1cm x 1cm. Especially, not
surprisingly, when the scene suddenly changes, or there's fast
movement.

A couple of times, while I've had this PC running, and it went to
check and receive email, it's ****ed up the picture and the TV pic
just stopped completely! Broke up and froze! Obviously there was a
bandwidth shortage and the PC was hogging it while downloading the
email! Not good!

Also, the colours/levels of shading show very apparent compression.
In, say, a sky, where the colour changes gently from, say, top to
bottom, you can see it's rendered as wide-ish bands of the same colour,
rather than a truly smooth progression.


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk




tony sayer June 27th 04 06:59 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
In article ZMADc.69$%c3.24@newsfe5-win, Fleetie
writes
"tony sayer" wrote
I love 'em! Felt even more decadent just now, cos of course now I've
got the TV hooked up to my new amp AND sexxy speakers. Listening to
TV through that lot?! A bit overkill! Sound quality of TV really is
naff!


Is that via analogue or DTV?.....

--
Tony Sayer


Derrm, well, it comes ultimately from my NTL set-top-box. Sometimes
I hear compression artefacts.

There's a hell of a lot of compression on the video as well. If I sit
near-ish to the TV, it's very apparent that the pic is divided up into
basically "boxes", near-squares, perhaps 1cm x 1cm. Especially, not
surprisingly, when the scene suddenly changes, or there's fast
movement.

A couple of times, while I've had this PC running, and it went to
check and receive email, it's ****ed up the picture and the TV pic
just stopped completely! Broke up and froze! Obviously there was a
bandwidth shortage and the PC was hogging it while downloading the
email! Not good!

Also, the colours/levels of shading show very apparent compression.
In, say, a sky, where the colour changes gently from, say, top to
bottom, you can see it's rendered as wide-ish bands of the same colour,
rather than a truly smooth progression.


Martin


Welcome to the wonderful world of digital broadcasting:(

Personally I wouldn't give cable TV house room, if you must have it get
it off either freeview or satellite. However ntl are useful for the
broadband though.

DTV is transmitted at 256 kilobits on the sound and on the old analogue
its 728 NICAM which is faster still!. However the digital pictures are
still very poor compared with good analogue signals. Odd really in that
the actual transmitters are fed with very high rate digital and then
coded to PAL, which still offers the better picture.

No doubt I'll have Dave Plowman along shortly to contradict all that!...
--
Tony Sayer


RJH June 27th 04 09:31 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 

"Fleetie" wrote in message
news:cPkDc.146$MI2.36@newsfe6-win...
: I just got a pair today.
:
: OMFG! They sound so, so, so detailed and revealing in the treble!
:
: I'm in love! Plus I got 50 quid off for no apparent reason.
:
: And these are lower-end Dynaudios! One can only wonder what the
: expensive stuff can do!
:
: I have achieved audio contentment! They sound fan-TAS-tic!
:
: Perhaps a touch glassy sometimes with "s" sounds, but otherwise very
: nice indeed in the treble, which is by far and away the part that I
: care about most.
:
: Better sell on my Mission 752Fs and Cyrus II to defray some of the
: cost of these recent expensive purchases!
:
:
: Martin
: --
: M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967
110890
: Manchester, U.K.
http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk
:
Have to go along with you on the Dynaudio sound here. Your post led me to
have a bit of a listen (when I should really be doing something else, not
including lurking in newsgroups!) to my 62s, lesser drivers, bigger box, and
they are truly superb. Interestingly, I think the 42s are a better speaker
(got a pair of those too), but I do like the bass thud and more open sound
of the 62s.

Just out of curiosity - what made you buy them?! If you believe what you
read they're supposed to be current hungry solid state types - not suited to
valve amps. I find they match very well, on my 25w tube amp, plenty loud
enough - I found out by luck rather than judgement.

Anyway, enjoy!

Rob

ps - waiting for a comment or two on your new valve curiosity, seems an
awful lot for the money ...



Fleetie June 28th 04 12:41 AM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
"RJH" wrote
Have to go along with you on the Dynaudio sound here. Your post led me to
have a bit of a listen (when I should really be doing something else, not
including lurking in newsgroups!) to my 62s, lesser drivers, bigger box, and
they are truly superb. Interestingly, I think the 42s are a better speaker
(got a pair of those too), but I do like the bass thud and more open sound
of the 62s.

Just out of curiosity - what made you buy them?! If you believe what you
read they're supposed to be current hungry solid state types - not suited to
valve amps. I find they match very well, on my 25w tube amp, plenty loud
enough - I found out by luck rather than judgement.

Anyway, enjoy!

Rob

ps - waiting for a comment or two on your new valve curiosity, seems an
awful lot for the money ...


Hi.

Yeah.

Well I'm a total treble freak cos I LOVE female vocals. I'd been to that
shop (Practical Hi-Fi) before, years ago, and they recommended Dynaudio
to me then.

Up till then, I'd used Mission 752 Freedom floorstanders (though I didn't
have them on the floor; I had them on Target HJ15s, which are 15" high,
and VERY solid and heavey, cos I like my sound tall, and I usually
listen standing), but acquiring the valve amp re-kindled my interest in
the pursuit of perfect sound, so I was reminded of the recommendation.

So I booked a dem and had a listen, and after just a very few minutes,
I knew I had to have them. There was no point listening longer. I
WANTED them.

So I whipped out the plastic and paid for them.

They are FANTASTIC! And I never bought them for bass, cos bass
doesn't interest me that much, but I stuck on Bjork's recent album
- sorry, I forget the name of it cos I'm ****ed; the one with "Joga"
on it - and wicked it up last night, and the bass was really impressive
for such a small box - which was an unexpected bonus. I bought them for
their AMAZING treble.

I guess they're crossovered to reduce the efficency across the band
to make it more equal to the lower level of bass a small box will
produce; rendering them pretty inefficient, but giving a really
creditable bass for their size.

Anyway, top and bottom, they're fantastic and I'm in love with them!

Sure, the valve amp doesn't have the bass KICK of the Cyrus II, but I
bought it and the speakers for their treble, which is nothing short
of awesome.


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk





Dave Plowman (News) June 28th 04 08:14 AM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
In article mKzDc.62$%c3.2@newsfe5-win,
Fleetie wrote:
Sound quality of TV really is naff!


Get yourself a decent TV tuner, or some new ears.

The chain used in TV is at least the equal of any FM radio station.

Of course, the ultimate quality depends on the source material, as do all
broadcasts.

--
*Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Fleetie June 28th 04 09:54 AM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote
In article mKzDc.62$%c3.2@newsfe5-win,
Fleetie wrote:
Sound quality of TV really is naff!


Get yourself a decent TV tuner, or some new ears.

The chain used in TV is at least the equal of any FM radio station.


Horse ****.

It's appalling.

"New ears" indeed. Anyway, as I've said, it's cable, not
regular terrestrial TV.

If you'd read what I'd posted before firing off, you'd have seen
that that was what I was talking about.




Dave Plowman (News) June 28th 04 10:18 AM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
In article XNSDc.34$444.23@newsfe4-gui,
Fleetie wrote:
Sound quality of TV really is naff!


Get yourself a decent TV tuner, or some new ears.

The chain used in TV is at least the equal of any FM radio station.


Horse ****.


Really? How long have you been associated with either?

It's appalling.


Then you really do need some new ears. Or equipment.

"New ears" indeed. Anyway, as I've said, it's cable, not
regular terrestrial TV.


Then say what you mean. "The sound quality off *my* TV setup is naff".

If you'd read what I'd posted before firing off, you'd have seen
that that was what I was talking about.


You expect everyone to guess what you actually mean?

--
*TEAMWORK...means never having to take all the blame yourself *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

tony sayer June 28th 04 10:26 AM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
In article XNSDc.34$444.23@newsfe4-gui, Fleetie
writes
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote
In article mKzDc.62$%c3.2@newsfe5-win,
Fleetie wrote:
Sound quality of TV really is naff!


Get yourself a decent TV tuner, or some new ears.

The chain used in TV is at least the equal of any FM radio station.


Horse ****.

It's appalling.

"New ears" indeed. Anyway, as I've said, it's cable, not
regular terrestrial TV.

If you'd read what I'd posted before firing off, you'd have seen
that that was what I was talking about.




Well Dave is correct in that analogue TV sound is distributed as NICAM
728 which is around that number of kilobits and should be about
indistinguishable from CD quality. DTV uses 256 Kilobit's which again
should be almost indistinguishable from CD, well for the vast majority
of users. In fact if DAB was at the 256 k rate I'd buy a DAB tuner
tomorrow!. Some chance!...

However, if as the posters says its via cable then all manner of nasties
could have happened to it at the headend.

Direct off air seems a better bet all round....
--
Tony Sayer


Keith G June 28th 04 04:30 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 

"Fleetie" wrote


They are FANTASTIC! And I never bought them for bass, cos bass
doesn't interest me that much, but I stuck on Bjork's recent album
- sorry, I forget the name of it cos I'm ****ed; the one with "Joga"



That's 'Homogenic'.

Bjork and bass?? You want 'Telegram' you do! (Preferably burned from the
vinyl - currently my daily 'Must Hear' and one side of my current 'Car
Tape'......)






Tim S Kemp June 28th 04 08:08 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
Keith G wrote:
"Fleetie" wrote


They are FANTASTIC! And I never bought them for bass, cos bass
doesn't interest me that much, but I stuck on Bjork's recent album
- sorry, I forget the name of it cos I'm ****ed; the one with "Joga"



That's 'Homogenic'.

Bjork and bass?? You want 'Telegram' you do! (Preferably burned from
the vinyl - currently my daily 'Must Hear' and one side of my current
'Car Tape'......)


Oh now that IS a good album. In fact, it's going on now. I never thought my
wife /really/ loved me until she bought me Telegram a few Christmases ago,
she hates Bjork

--
Flippity Floppity Flip. The mouse on the Mobius strip. The strip
revolved, the mouse dissolved in a chronodimensional slip.



Fleetie June 28th 04 09:11 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
Keith G wrote:
"Fleetie" wrote


They are FANTASTIC! And I never bought them for bass, cos bass
doesn't interest me that much, but I stuck on Bjork's recent album
- sorry, I forget the name of it cos I'm ****ed; the one with "Joga"



That's 'Homogenic'.

Bjork and bass?? You want 'Telegram' you do! (Preferably burned from
the vinyl - currently my daily 'Must Hear' and one side of my current
'Car Tape'......)


Hmm. Well bitch neighbour from Hell was round knocking at my door
tonight, complaining about the music this last weekend. I must admit,
I really did open it up and stick the foot down, as it were, on
a couple of occasions, cos I wanted to take my new toys for a
proper test drive!

And damn good they sounded, too.


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk



Keiron June 30th 04 07:47 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
"Fleetie" wrote in message news:aI0Ec.145$7I6.51@newsfe1-win...

Hmm. Well bitch neighbour from Hell was round knocking at my door
tonight, complaining about the music this last weekend. I must admit,
I really did open it up and stick the foot down, as it were, on
a couple of occasions, cos I wanted to take my new toys for a
proper test drive!

And damn good they sounded, too.


Martin



I have a surround sound setup using 42s. They do sound fabulous, and
do seem to enjoy having the volume turned up to 11! Are the 52's or
52SE's a significant step up from the 42's?

Fleetie July 3rd 04 08:19 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
"Fleetie" wrote
I just got a pair today.

OMFG! They sound so, so, so detailed and revealing in the treble!

I'm in love! Plus I got 50 quid off for no apparent reason.

And these are lower-end Dynaudios! One can only wonder what the
expensive stuff can do!

I have achieved audio contentment! They sound fan-TAS-tic!


Got my "proper" pair today. The ones I had until today were on
loan from the shop while they got my new ones in.

I'm amazed at these speakers, having lived with them for a week now.
They really do put in a VERY creditable bass performance for the size.
Amazing, really.

And the treble! Ooohhhhh, that treble! It's the best treble I've ever
heard from a moving-coil speaker - not that I've heard many in recent
years, but it is truly _amazing_.

Boo-yah!

And I'd like to thank Practical Hi-Fi in Manchester for top-class service,
too. They got my speaker in very quickly indeed - by last Wednesday. A good
experience.



Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk



Fleetie July 8th 04 08:02 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
"The Artist" wrote
"Fleetie" emitted :

And I'd like to thank Practical Hi-Fi in Manchester for top-class service,
too. They got my speaker in very quickly indeed - by last Wednesday. A good
experience.


Bridge St? They're a good bunch..


The very same.

Yeah it was a good experience.


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk



Anthony Edwards July 8th 04 08:26 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:28:33 +0100, The Artist wrote:

These guys charged me £20 for a replacement Project TT cover and
delivered the same week. [I suspect at cost.] Also threw in some extra
bits and pieces I needed for free. OK their listening room isn't much
to speak of, but I've always found them very personable and helpful.
Across the road, you-know-who wanted twice as much. More of a
boxshifting operation in my experience...


I work in Manchester. I will need to look these folks up.

Pity The Music Rooms went tits-up. They were committed audiophiles.


Was that the Naim (amongst others) dealer in Deansgate?

--
Anthony Edwards


Fleetie July 8th 04 09:08 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
"The Artist" wrote
"Fleetie" emitted :

And I'd like to thank Practical Hi-Fi in Manchester for top-class service,
too. They got my speaker in very quickly indeed - by last Wednesday. A good
experience.

Bridge St? They're a good bunch..


The very same.

Yeah it was a good experience.


These guys charged me £20 for a replacement Project TT cover and
delivered the same week. [I suspect at cost.] Also threw in some extra
bits and pieces I needed for free. OK their listening room isn't much
to speak of, but I've always found them very personable and helpful.
Across the road, you-know-who wanted twice as much. More of a
boxshifting operation in my experience...

Pity The Music Rooms went tits-up. They were committed audiophiles.


Yeah I remember them too.

In new news: My valve amp has gone tits-up this evening. Well, the
left channel has. It's clipping REALLY early. A valve swap from
L -- R for all valves kept the fault in the left channel, i.e.
it didn't change sides, so I'm hoping a resistor in the left side
has burnt or something. PLEASE not a transformer fault.

I'm back to my Cyrus II for now, and it sounds VERY unengaging
compared to the valve amp, in the treble, to be honest.

Screwdrivers out this weekend.



Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk



Keith G July 9th 04 07:23 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 

"Fleetie" wrote in message
...
"Fleetie" wrote
In new news: My valve amp has gone tits-up this evening. Well, the
left channel has. It's clipping REALLY early. A valve swap from
L -- R for all valves kept the fault in the left channel, i.e.
it didn't change sides, so I'm hoping a resistor in the left side
has burnt or something. PLEASE not a transformer fault.


I can't get the thing open! The screws are too tight!



Heat 'em up good with a soldering iron and try them when they've cooled back
down. (Presuming no plastic in the area, of course.....)


BUT luckily I can see down onto some of the PCB if I take the
output valves out. Sure enough, there's ONE blown-up resistor
visible in the left channel. Not a small one, but not huge.
I'd guess it's rated a watt or two.



Fit at least 2 or even 3 watt resistors and rip out the other side and
balance everything up in L/R pairs - won't cost more than a few quid and
will prevent the other side following suit.



I guess it's a cathode resistor but I can't tell, cos I can't see
much of the PCB.



From your earlier post re neighbours, I guess you've got the overhead to
spare - why not give a thought to re-biasing while you've got the bonnet up?
It'll take the pressure off and you'll never hear the difference.....







Fleetie July 9th 04 07:39 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
"Fleetie" wrote
In new news: My valve amp has gone tits-up this evening. Well, the
left channel has. It's clipping REALLY early. A valve swap from
L -- R for all valves kept the fault in the left channel, i.e.
it didn't change sides, so I'm hoping a resistor in the left side
has burnt or something. PLEASE not a transformer fault.


I can't get the thing open! The screws are too tight!

BUT luckily I can see down onto some of the PCB if I take the
output valves out. Sure enough, there's ONE blown-up resistor
visible in the left channel. Not a small one, but not huge.
I'd guess it's rated a watt or two.

I guess it's a cathode resistor but I can't tell, cos I can't see
much of the PCB.

Anyway, it's Orange Orange Gold Gold. I can't remember what a
Gold multiplier means. 0.1 or 0.01? I'll look it up anyway.
So it's either 3.3 Ohms or 0.33 Ohms.

I'm quite happy cos I suspect and hope that it's be an EASY fix
and I'll be back to divine sound again soon!


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk



tony sayer July 9th 04 09:10 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
In article , Fleetie
writes
Can I just say while I'm here that these speakers are STILL impressing
me?

They're so _effortless_. No colouration. Sound just _emerges_ as if by
magic. No struggle, no "sound of their own", just sound that comes out.

The midrange is just to die for, as is the treble. Even when watching
TV, I sometimes look at those little solid boxes and think, "That sound
is coming from THEM, but it doesn't sound like it is!".

If they were a girl, I'd marry her, confident that I wouldn't run off with
anyone else, at least for long enough to make it worth it.


Martin


What?, Are you on?, as I'd like some of it too:-)))
--
Tony Sayer


Fleetie July 9th 04 09:39 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
"Keith G" wrote
From your earlier post re neighbours, I guess you've got the overhead to
spare - why not give a thought to re-biasing while you've got the bonnet up?
It'll take the pressure off and you'll never hear the difference.....


Screw the neighbour. I do wick it up every now and again, esp. if I
think she's not in.

But as I say, I can't get the damn cover off at the moment, though
if I need to, I will try your interesting tip with the soldering iron.


Cheers.


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk



Fleetie July 9th 04 10:06 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
Can I just say while I'm here that these speakers are STILL impressing
me?

They're so _effortless_. No colouration. Sound just _emerges_ as if by
magic. No struggle, no "sound of their own", just sound that comes out.

The midrange is just to die for, as is the treble. Even when watching
TV, I sometimes look at those little solid boxes and think, "That sound
is coming from THEM, but it doesn't sound like it is!".

If they were a girl, I'd marry her, confident that I wouldn't run off with
anyone else, at least for long enough to make it worth it.


Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk



Fleetie July 12th 04 02:32 AM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
We seem to have some music interests in common. You may even have been
a couple of rows behind me at the Chameleons Free Trade Hall gig back
in the 80s? :-)


Well, the Chama are mnew fave band! They rule!

Only ton ight I was down the pub/club and the DJ played like
6 Chams songs and I was giving it the air guitar and whatnot!

It was cool!

Not that great for testing out a hi-fi but ****ing good music!

I didn't catch them first time around but I saw them several
times after they reformed in 2001-2003. And I was always in the front
row, with the bruised chest from the barrier to prove it!

Nice one!



Martin
--
M.A.Poyser Tel.: 07967 110890
Manchester, U.K. http://www.fleetie.demon.co.uk



Arny Krueger July 13th 04 01:23 PM

Dynaudio Audience 52SE
 
"Fleetie" wrote in message

"Fleetie" wrote


In new news: My valve amp has gone tits-up this evening. Well, the
left channel has. It's clipping REALLY early. A valve swap from
L -- R for all valves kept the fault in the left channel, i.e.
it didn't change sides, so I'm hoping a resistor in the left side
has burnt or something. PLEASE not a transformer fault.


I can't get the thing open! The screws are too tight!

BUT luckily I can see down onto some of the PCB if I take the
output valves out. Sure enough, there's ONE blown-up resistor
visible in the left channel. Not a small one, but not huge.
I'd guess it's rated a watt or two.

I guess it's a cathode resistor but I can't tell, cos I can't see
much of the PCB.

Anyway, it's Orange Orange Gold Gold. I can't remember what a
Gold multiplier means. 0.1 or 0.01? I'll look it up anyway.


Gold = x 0.1

So it's either 3.3 Ohms or 0.33 Ohms.


That would be a 3.3 ohm resistor.

I'm quite happy cos I suspect and hope that it's be an EASY fix
and I'll be back to divine sound again soon!


When a part like this burns up, its probably for a reason. IOW it didn't
burn up because for its own reasons - something else in the circuit dumped a
whole lot of current through it.

If you want more *engaging* treble from that SS amp, pick up two more 3.3
ohm power resistors when you pick up the replacement for the part in the
tubed amp. Put one in series with each speaker's hot lead.






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