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Stewart Pinkerton July 19th 04 04:28 PM

Mega subwoofer picture
 
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 08:48:53 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:

Anyway, never mind all that, anybody know anything about 'Richard Allan
badged' full-range drivers thus:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit.../raspeaker.jpg

Any good (as full-range drivers go)? Built by whom??


They were well regarded in the DIY market in the '70s - but that may
not be saying a lot nowadays! They were AFAIK built in Yorkshire by
yer actual Richard Allan Audio.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Arny Krueger July 19th 04 05:36 PM

Mega subwoofer picture
 
"Paul Dormer" wrote in message

"Stewart Pinkerton" emitted :

As promised here is a picture of my subwoofer. I have pushed a
settee out of the way so it can be seen, and also removed a white
cloth screen that normally covers it. So in use it is totally
invisible.

http://www.donepearce.plus.com/odds/sub.jpg

The driver is a 15 inch Adire Tempest mounted in an 80 cubic foot
concrete cupboard, which extends under a staircase on the other side
of the wall. The mounting board, which replaces the cupboard door,
is 18mm MDF, braced extensively with scaffolding board, screwed and
glued edgewise onto it. It is very solid.


Call that a subwoofer? Try this: http://www.klone-audio.com/

And check out '12 Shivas dancing'..................


That's nothing. Check out 'Advanced Acoustic Armaments', Jimmy Cauty's
pet project - two sonic weapon equipped saracen tanks (installed with
"low-frequency weapons bought from the Ministry of Defense").

http://www.trancentral.ru/pix00/07_cauty/saracen01.gif


Pretty strange pix, given that the Saracen was a 6 x 6.



Chris Morriss July 19th 04 06:42 PM

Mega subwoofer picture
 
In message , Keith G
writes

"Don Pearce" wrote

They look to me like US conduit clamps, which are made out of pretty

heavy
gauge steel. The cute part is that they are springs so they are

unlikely to
loosen up. But they are relatively heavy springs.

I think the question is why fix them in that way at all? The speakers
have 8 perfectly good bolt holes, that all work very nicely as far as
I am concerned.

Read the text. He wanted quick access to the interior of the box. Why
overengineer the fixings, when there's no need to maintain a tight
seal?


OK - I didn't read. But even if I had, I think I would have missed
that bit. Quick access to the inside of a speaker box is a concept
that would whizz right by me.




Me too, other than this nightmare exhausts up through the floor, so perhaps
one of the bottom drivers might be handy to be 'quick-release' but surely
not *all* of them? (I would have thought a bit of gerbil-mesh over the top
would have prevented a lot of the potential problems??)

I suppose we need to remember we're talking Merkinland here - where 'My
Audio Gear Is My Knob' rules (and whence 100% of the world's supply of
Viagra and penis-enlargement spam emanates)...

Anyway, never mind all that, anybody know anything about 'Richard Allan
badged' full-range drivers thus:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit.../raspeaker.jpg

Any good (as full-range drivers go)? Built by whom??





That's a genuine Richard Allan CG8T. Richard Allan still make speakers
and drive units for the pro-monitor market, and have probably the best
drive unit rebuilding/re-coning workshops in the country.

I've got the TS parameters for that unit at work. I'll email you from
there with them tomorrow.

(If you've got two of them they'll certainly be sellable. To me if
no-one else!)
--
Chris Morriss

Keith G July 19th 04 10:48 PM

Mega subwoofer picture
 

"Chris Morriss" wrote


Anyway, never mind all that, anybody know anything about 'Richard Allan
badged' full-range drivers thus:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit.../raspeaker.jpg

Any good (as full-range drivers go)? Built by whom??





That's a genuine Richard Allan CG8T. Richard Allan still make speakers
and drive units for the pro-monitor market, and have probably the best
drive unit rebuilding/re-coning workshops in the country.



OK, thanks to both of you for the info. I've since found the slightly wacky
Richard Allan website http://www.loudspeakersonline.com/. or
http://www.richardallanaudio.com/ (both seem to get you there) which
establishes them as a bona fide manufacturer rather than the 'someone who
supplies Richer Sounds with badged audio gear' that I was (incorrectly)
informed. (Interesting section on DC - 10 kHz vibration generators, btw...)


I've got the TS parameters for that unit at work. I'll email you from
there with them tomorrow.



Bit over my head atm, but would be interesting in case I do get into a bit
of speaker-fettling.....


(If you've got two of them they'll certainly be sellable. To me if
no-one else!)



They're not mine to sell (yet) - they belong to my 'opposite number in St
Neots' (whom I've only just met) and they are fitted into a pair of reet
wuffy, fibre-filled, upward-firing horns that I've been playing with (coming
up ****e/interesting/****e atm...) He has got a pair of Rogers of mine he's
playing with and, as he is particularly susceptible to Rogers speakers, I
suspect there'll be an attack of humming and hawing and shuffling of feet
coming from his direction in the near future! :-)

.......I'm just wondering if they would be a worthwhile driver to play with
(in view of Lowther and even Fostex prices) if I tried my hand at a pair of
folded horns....??? (Some seriously fascinating stuff on
http://melhuish.org/audio/horn.html if you follow the links to places like
http://melhuish.org/audio/DIY.html and some German geezer's excellent site
that I've lost atm and can't get back to yet!)








Arny Krueger July 20th 04 01:30 AM

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"Paul Dormer" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" emitted :


"Paul Dormer" wrote in message
m


That's nothing. Check out 'Advanced Acoustic Armaments', Jimmy
Cauty's pet project - two sonic weapon equipped saracen tanks
(installed with "low-frequency weapons bought from the Ministry of
Defense").

http://www.trancentral.ru/pix00/07_cauty/saracen01.gif


Pretty strange pix, given that the Saracen was a 6 x 6.


It's a heavily modified Saracen tank (shape is right) or armoured car.


Compare to these pictures:

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...racen_pic1.jpg

http://tanks2go.com/for_sale/images/ssaracen1.jpg

http://www.military-vehicle.net/vcls/Saracen.jpg

http://www.ausmil.com/~samra/unit%20vehs/saracen1.jpg

http://www.tankmuseum.com/large/saracenjpg.jpg

http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/pix/u...en_apc-007.jpg

http://tanks2go.com/for_sale/images/ssaracen1.jpg

http://www.intotheblue.co.uk/images2/heavytrack.jpg

http://www.anchorsupplies.com/10066.jpg

http://www.timvibert.com/media/Saracen_lrg.jpg

http://www.casinotime.com/links/cold...dy_saracen.htm

http://www.tankmuseum.com/large/saracenjpg.jpg

http://www.greasergrrls.com/images/s...ll_saracen.jpg

http://www.lionheartvehicles.com/fv603.jpg

http://www.cvl.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~ka...sarachen1.jpeg

http://www.cvl.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~ka...sarachen2.jpeg

http://www.cvl.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~ka...sarachen3.jpeg

http://www.cvl.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~ka...saracen_01.jpg

http://www.cvl.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~ka...saracen_02.jpg



It has been described as both.


But not as a 4x4.





Chris Morriss July 20th 04 05:25 PM

Mega subwoofer picture
 
In message , Keith G
writes

"Don Pearce" wrote

They look to me like US conduit clamps, which are made out of pretty

heavy
gauge steel. The cute part is that they are springs so they are

unlikely to
loosen up. But they are relatively heavy springs.

I think the question is why fix them in that way at all? The speakers
have 8 perfectly good bolt holes, that all work very nicely as far as
I am concerned.

Read the text. He wanted quick access to the interior of the box. Why
overengineer the fixings, when there's no need to maintain a tight
seal?


OK - I didn't read. But even if I had, I think I would have missed
that bit. Quick access to the inside of a speaker box is a concept
that would whizz right by me.




Me too, other than this nightmare exhausts up through the floor, so perhaps
one of the bottom drivers might be handy to be 'quick-release' but surely
not *all* of them? (I would have thought a bit of gerbil-mesh over the top
would have prevented a lot of the potential problems??)

I suppose we need to remember we're talking Merkinland here - where 'My
Audio Gear Is My Knob' rules (and whence 100% of the world's supply of
Viagra and penis-enlargement spam emanates)...

Anyway, never mind all that, anybody know anything about 'Richard Allan
badged' full-range drivers thus:

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/keit.../raspeaker.jpg

Any good (as full-range drivers go)? Built by whom??




CG8 TS parameters.
Fs 70Hz
Qms 7.03
Qes 0.7
Qts 0.637
VAS 1.37 cu ft
Eff 1.8%
Cms 8.9 M/N
Mms 5.8 gm
Bl 5.05 Wb/M

Not one of the world's best 8" single unit drivers, but very high
efficiency, and suits a low-power SE valve amp.
--
Chris Morriss

Arny Krueger July 23rd 04 01:27 AM

Mega subwoofer picture
 
"Paul Dormer" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" emitted :

That's nothing. Check out 'Advanced Acoustic Armaments', Jimmy
Cauty's pet project - two sonic weapon equipped saracen tanks
(installed with "low-frequency weapons bought from the Ministry of
Defense").

http://www.trancentral.ru/pix00/07_cauty/saracen01.gif

Pretty strange pix, given that the Saracen was a 6 x 6.


It's a heavily modified Saracen tank (shape is right) or armoured
car.


Compare to these pictures:


long list of Saracen tank jpg links clipped

It has been described as both.


But not as a 4x4.


Like I said, it's a heavily modified Saracen tank or armoured car.

Why are you distressed?


Why should I be distressed by addtional evidence that you are a liar,
Dormer?



Stewart Pinkerton July 23rd 04 06:10 AM

Mega subwoofer picture
 
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:27:53 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Paul Dormer" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" emitted :

That's nothing. Check out 'Advanced Acoustic Armaments', Jimmy
Cauty's pet project - two sonic weapon equipped saracen tanks
(installed with "low-frequency weapons bought from the Ministry of
Defense").

http://www.trancentral.ru/pix00/07_cauty/saracen01.gif

Pretty strange pix, given that the Saracen was a 6 x 6.

It's a heavily modified Saracen tank (shape is right) or armoured
car.


Shape is completely *wrong* for a Saracen - as is the drive
configuration. Furthermore, we don't have a 'Ministry of Defense', and
Cauty admitted that he just loaded the cars up with old disco gear
biased toeards very low frequencies - although those pictures show no
evidence of anything capable of generating significant LF power. The
vehicles were purchased from a scrapyard. Took about ten seconds on
Google to find out all this.

Compare to these pictures:


long list of Saracen tank jpg links clipped

It has been described as both.

But not as a 4x4.


Like I said, it's a heavily modified Saracen tank or armoured car.

Why are you distressed?


Why should I be distressed by addtional evidence that you are a liar,
Dormer?


More to the point, it doesn't even *vaguely* resemble a Saracen! Might
possibly be based on a Bushmaster. Of course, since Cauty was/is a
notorious scammer, it could also be a wooden mockup on a Land Rover
chassis.........................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stimpy July 23rd 04 07:26 AM

Mega subwoofer picture
 
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

More to the point, it doesn't even *vaguely* resemble a Saracen! Might
possibly be based on a Bushmaster. Of course, since Cauty was/is a
notorious scammer, it could also be a wooden mockup on a Land Rover
chassis.........................


Scammer? 'Art Terrorist' please!! :-)



Arny Krueger July 23rd 04 07:33 AM

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message


On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 21:27:53 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


"Paul Dormer" wrote in message


"Arny Krueger" emitted :


That's nothing. Check out 'Advanced Acoustic Armaments', Jimmy
Cauty's pet project - two sonic weapon equipped saracen tanks
(installed with "low-frequency weapons bought from the Ministry
of Defense").


http://www.trancentral.ru/pix00/07_cauty/saracen01.gif


Pretty strange pix, given that the Saracen was a 6 x 6.


It's a heavily modified Saracen tank (shape is right) or armoured
car.


Shape is completely *wrong* for a Saracen - as is the drive
configuration.


That's obvious from the pictures, which is why I collected them to help
Dormer straighten himself out.

Furthermore, we don't have a 'Ministry of Defense',


That's a critical hole in Dormer's story.

Cauty admitted that he just loaded the cars up with old disco gear
biased toeards very low frequencies - although those pictures show no
evidence of anything capable of generating significant LF power.


That's what the pictures show. I didn't bring this point up because its a
judgement call, albeit an obvious one. There is some documentation about the
sort of things people are using to implement low frequency weapons, and none
of them are the relatively small PA speakers that are shown in Dormer's
picture.

The vehicles were purchased from a scrapyard. Took about ten seconds on
Google to find out all this.


Not the first time Dormer has fallen for a scam.

Compare to these pictures:

long list of Saracen tank jpg links clipped


It has been described as both.


But not as a 4x4.


Like I said, it's a heavily modified Saracen tank or armoured car.


The Saracen is usually described as an APC, with armored car being a
reasonable alternative description.

Tank?

http://www.bartleby.com/61/68/T0036800.html

"3. An enclosed, heavily armored combat vehicle that is armed with cannon
and machine guns and moves on continuous tracks."

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...tank&x=19&y=12

"3 : an enclosed heavily armed and armored combat vehicle that moves on
tracks"

Obviously, none of the pictures show tracks.

Why are you distressed?


Why should I be distressed by addtional evidence that you are a liar,
Dormer?


More to the point, it doesn't even *vaguely* resemble a Saracen!


Shows how blind Dormer is when he's got his head screwed up in a knot.

Might possibly be based on a Bushmaster. Of course, since Cauty was/is a
notorious scammer, it could also be a wooden mockup on a Land Rover
chassis...


Cauty is a scammer, Dormer is a scammer. Seems to fit!




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