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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Sorry, I don't remember how the eq was done. I seem to recall that the
later version had a a -3dB treble shelf above about 1.5kHz on the
analogue outputs, so that much at least was probably hardware.


So that's why the FM pass-through sounds so crap!

Now we know. You've been basing all your views on DAB from listening to a
dodgy tuner...;-)

I don't use the pass through. I could easily measure it, though.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Sorry, I don't remember how the eq was done. I seem to recall that
the later version had a a -3dB treble shelf above about 1.5kHz on
the analogue outputs, so that much at least was probably hardware.


So that's why the FM pass-through sounds so crap!

Now we know. You've been basing all your views on DAB from listening
to a dodgy tuner...;-)


Nope, I use the digital output to my MD player. This is partly because
comparing DAB with Freeview I route the Freeview via digital output to
the MD player, so it's the fairest comparison.


I don't use the pass through. I could easily measure it, though.


I gave up on the analogue outputs as soon as I noticed what happened to
the sound of my FM tuner when passed-through the DRX601E.


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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:

Nope, I use the digital output to my MD player. This is partly because
comparing DAB with Freeview I route the Freeview via digital output to
the MD player, so it's the fairest comparison.

Your MD player has good DACs? Mine (albeit portable) always seems a bit
gritty. My DAB and Freeview run to the optical ins on my AV amp (DVD player
is on analogue 6 ch in). Most stations sound similar with the exception of
R4 which is always better on Freeview.


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In article ,
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Now we know. You've been basing all your views on DAB from listening
to a dodgy tuner...;-)


Nope, I use the digital output to my MD player. This is partly because
comparing DAB with Freeview I route the Freeview via digital output to
the MD player, so it's the fairest comparison.

That's assuming the top tip up is only in the analogue section. It could
just as easily be done digitally...

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Tim S Kemp wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:

Nope, I use the digital output to my MD player. This is partly
because comparing DAB with Freeview I route the Freeview via digital
output to the MD player, so it's the fairest comparison.

Your MD player has good DACs? Mine (albeit portable) always seems a
bit gritty.


Yeah, mine sound fine.


My DAB and Freeview run to the optical ins on my AV amp
(DVD player is on analogue 6 ch in). Most stations sound similar with
the exception of R4 which is always better on Freeview.


All the BBC stations apart from Radio 3 and the World Service use higher
bit rates on Freeview than on DAB, and therefore sound better. Radios 1,
2 and 4, 6 Music, 1Xtra, BBC7 and Asian Network always sound better on
Freeview than on DAB due to the difference in bit rates. Radio 5 and
Radio 5 Sports Extra sound pretty much the same. See:

http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/in...bit_rate_table

and

http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/bi...vs_quality.htm

The codec used on DAB and Freeview is MPEG Layer 2 (or MP2), which is
labelled as LII on that graph. Note that MP3 kicks MP2's arse at
128kbps, and 98% of DAB stereo stations in the UK use 128kbps MP2. No
wonder DAB sounds so ****.


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DAB sounds worse than FM, Freeview, digital satellite, cable and
broadband internet radio