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Old July 31st 04, 09:06 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Nath
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Would it be worthwhile buying a headphone amp for my phones? (Grado RS-1's)
I'm currently using the headphone socket on the Audiolab 8000S.

Been recommended the Rega Ear at £100.

Having two sets of inputs would be useful- one from my integrated amp (or
maybe DAC), and other from output from my AV pre-amp.

ta


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Old July 31st 04, 11:12 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Nath" wrote in message
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Would it be worthwhile buying a headphone amp for my phones? (Grado

RS-1's)
I'm currently using the headphone socket on the Audiolab 8000S.

Been recommended the Rega Ear at £100.

Having two sets of inputs would be useful- one from my integrated amp (or
maybe DAC), and other from output from my AV pre-amp.

ta




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Old August 1st 04, 05:58 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default Headphone amps?

Nath wrote:
Would it be worthwhile buying a headphone amp for my phones? (Grado
RS-1's) I'm currently using the headphone socket on the Audiolab
8000S.

Been recommended the Rega Ear at £100.

Having two sets of inputs would be useful- one from my integrated amp
(or maybe DAC), and other from output from my AV pre-amp.

ta


Most decent headphone amps are an upgrade on the internal one in amplifiers


If I was you, I would look at the new Musical Fidelity head phone amp, a
good match with Grado
http://www.walrus.co.uk/musfid/musfid.htm half way down page
The all new X-CANv3 (GBP 250.00 each)
http://www.musicalfidelity.com/xponframeset.html




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Old August 2nd 04, 03:03 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Tat Chan
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Default Headphone amps?

Nath wrote:

Would it be worthwhile buying a headphone amp for my phones? (Grado RS-1's)
I'm currently using the headphone socket on the Audiolab 8000S.


Nath,

How are the Grados through the headphone socket on the 8000s? I'm
sure the headphone socket actually uses the 8000s power amp section.

Tat
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Old August 2nd 04, 09:32 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Headphone amps?

In article ,
Dave xxxxx wrote:

Most decent headphone amps are an upgrade on the internal one in
amplifiers


That's a bit of a broad statement - some headphone outlets are simply an
attenuated version of the main one.

However, if you're bypassing the main amp completely, a good class A
headphone amp might well be better than the main amp...

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Old August 2nd 04, 12:35 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Nath
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Default Headphone amps?


"Tat Chan" wrote in message
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Nath wrote:

Would it be worthwhile buying a headphone amp for my phones? (Grado

RS-1's)
I'm currently using the headphone socket on the Audiolab 8000S.


Nath,

How are the Grados through the headphone socket on the 8000s?


Sounds very good, doesn't distort etc. Not too harsh or dull (Grado's have
been reported as a bit forward) I'm just wondering if there will be a
difference between a dedicated amp or Audiolab headphone socket. My CD & DVD
players both have a headphone socket. I might try and compare them.

I'm
sure the headphone socket actually uses the 8000s power amp section.

Tat


Interesting. It should be pretty good in that case.


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Old August 2nd 04, 12:54 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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Default Headphone amps?

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message


In article ,
Dave xxxxx wrote:


Most decent headphone amps are an upgrade on the internal one in
amplifiers


That's a bit of a broad statement - some headphone outlets are simply
an attenuated version of the main one.


That's part of the problem. The attenuator generally increases the source
impedance to the headphone, which alters the headphone's effective frequency
response for the many (but not all) headphones that have highly non-uniform
impedance curves. Some headphones are sensitive to this, others are not.

However, if you're bypassing the main amp completely, a good class A
headphone amp might well be better than the main amp...


A headphone amp can also provide gain and/or an extension of peak voltage
output that may be audibly advantageous.


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Old August 2nd 04, 01:13 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Headphone amps?

In article ,
Arny Krueger wrote:
That's a bit of a broad statement - some headphone outlets are simply
an attenuated version of the main one.


That's part of the problem. The attenuator generally increases the
source impedance to the headphone, which alters the headphone's
effective frequency response for the many (but not all) headphones that
have highly non-uniform impedance curves. Some headphones are sensitive
to this, others are not.


Indeed. However, headphones that don't work off a 'normal' output should
come with a warning.

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