"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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In article ,
Roy roy wrote:
I regularly used to flick from source to monitor when recording on my
Nakamichi 582 and was always pretty staggered at how little difference
there was. Subjectively, there didn't seem any difference to the top
end.

One of the main problems with cassettes relates to azimuth errors - from a
variety of reasons including the tape itself. You don't get these - or
shouldn't - when off tape monitoring. Same with the Dolby encoding.


Also bear in mind the Nak had (easily) adjustable azimuth, bias and Dolby
"level".

I still kick myself sometimes for selling it.

You'll get far better performance from a MiniDisc at a fraction of the
price. And those don't vary from machine to machine.

Oh, I know, or indeed my Mac iBook. But I did like the Nak.

Roy.

I regularly used to flick from source to monitor when recording on my
Nakamichi 582 and was always pretty staggered at how little difference there
was. Subjectively, there didn't seem any difference to the top end.

Well ok, but when I initially dissed cassette's poor treble, it
was in the context of Walkmans. They do have crap treble, and
worse yet, since the tape being played won't have been recorded on the
Walkman, there is the problem of head azimuth differences between
the recording and playback machines, too.

Tape Walkmans were naff compared to what we have now. End of.


Martin
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Oh, and another thing.. many walkmans were not optimally aligned (IME)
out of the box and would drift anyway.. so Dolby wouldn't track
properly (dulling the sound). I used to keep a small screwdriver
handy..

So did I.

Dave Plowman (News) pibbled:
In article ,
Paul Dormer wrote:
*Most* cassettes don't go anywhere near 14kHz in practice. On a new
machine with good tape when measured, yes. After a few years use, no.

I just pulled out a 15 year old Denon deck that's been gathering dust
for the last 10, gave it a clean, demagnetized the heads.. I don't
hear anything like the deteroriation you're talking about.

I once spent considerable time going through cassettes sent in by the
public of which some would subsequently be broadcast. And the majority had
azimuth and dolby errors. Even before the tape type and quality was
considered.

Of course they are capable of half decent performance, but not in practice
for the majority.


Jewellers screwdriver. Sorted. Your problem was??

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"Paul Dormer" wrote
"Fleetie" emitted :

I regularly used to flick from source to monitor when recording on my
Nakamichi 582 and was always pretty staggered at how little difference there
was. Subjectively, there didn't seem any difference to the top end.

Well ok, but when I initially dissed cassette's poor treble, it
was in the context of Walkmans. They do have crap treble, and
worse yet, since the tape being played won't have been recorded on the
Walkman, there is the problem of head azimuth differences between
the recording and playback machines, too.

Tape Walkmans were naff compared to what we have now. End of.

No, you are wrong. Some of them were very good. 'End of.' x 1000

Thank goodness we have a sense of humour here.

In article ,
Triffid wrote:
Of course they are capable of half decent performance, but not in
practice for the majority.


Jewellers screwdriver. Sorted. Your problem was??

I don't have a problem - I have a very expensive test tape for setting
azimuth correctly afterwards. Doubt many do, though.

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"Fleetie" wrote in message
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I regularly used to flick from source to monitor when recording on my
Nakamichi 582 and was always pretty staggered at how little difference
there
was. Subjectively, there didn't seem any difference to the top end.

Well ok, but when I initially dissed cassette's poor treble, it
was in the context of Walkmans. They do have crap treble, and
worse yet, since the tape being played won't have been recorded on the
Walkman, there is the problem of head azimuth differences between
the recording and playback machines, too.

Tape Walkmans were naff compared to what we have now.

Ah, well. I do still have a Walkman Pro.

Roy.

Ah, well. I do still have a Walkman Pro.

Well don't worry, it's nothing a bridge and a river can't cure. ;-)

On 19 Aug 2004 01:11:33 -0700, (Paul Edwards)
wrote:

A couple of weeks ago I decided to replace my old Aiwa personal
cassette player (batteries had leaked - my fault). Easy, I thought -
I'll just nip into town and have a look in John Lewis and buy
something neat for £40 or so.

[snip]

So if you are thinking of replacing that old Walkman DO IT NOW! By
the end of the year it will be too late.

Page 862 of the current Argos catalogue (autumn-winter 2004) lists ten
such devices from three pounds up to fifty-five pounds. The following
pages have about the same number of flash memory "MP3" players, five
hard disk players (taking the three iMac variations as a single player
type) and four mini disc players.


--
Chris Isbell
Southampton, UK

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Triffid wrote:
Of course they are capable of half decent performance, but not in
practice for the majority.


Jewellers screwdriver. Sorted. Your problem was??

I don't have a problem - I have a very expensive test tape for setting
azimuth correctly afterwards. Doubt many do, though.

I've got one somewhere - like my tape deck it's not been used for a while -
also has a little strobe wheel in the middle for speed setting.
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