In article ,
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
You may mean it as a joke, but that's rather brought into question your
pronouncements on other matters

Check Cage 4m33

We all know that piece, and it sounds very different on vinyl and CD,
as you would expect, and also very different depending on where it is
performed. Hence the comment above. You seem predictably unable to
understand the subtleties of music reproduction.

I'm sad to say that such obvious comments as these are even needed.

All these people with magic ears that can tell one amplifier stand from
another - but not notice different ambience. Beggars belief.

Ten minutes in a decent dubbing suite repairing location recordings would
soon kick some sense into them.

--
* I like you. You remind me of when I was young and stupid

Dave Plowman London SW
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Ten minutes in a decent dubbing suite repairing location recordings would soon
kick some sense into them.

SP - fifteen minutes draining the sump of a Spitfire would sort out the wimps
from the men
DP - twenty minutes piecing together The Rite of Spring from two inch pieces of
tape on the cutting room floor would show them what a real engineer can do.
SP - thirty minutes crossing the Atlantic in a Spitfire feselage would show
them - no fekkin doubt about that
DP - forty minutes taking apart a Studer, cleaning every screw in Brasso and
putting it back together blindfold would sort out that idle lot of valveys
SP - fifty minutes going round the world suspended from 25 model aeroplanes
would sort the men from the boys.
DP and SP together - an HOUR of reading our posts with matchsticks in their
eyes would sort them out - aye no doubt about that! They'd give in to a man.

=== Andy Evans ===
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:37:57 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Andy Evans" wrote in message
...
You may mean it as a joke, but that's rather brought into question your
pronouncements on other matters

Check Cage 4m33


Did I see that dickhead make some remark about recording 'ambience'?

Must be for 'digital' - 'ambience' is one the areas in which vinyl trounces
CD for 'listening quality'....

(So that says a fair bit, dunnit....??? :-)

Actually no, you need digital to capture the *true* ambience of the
hall. Never confuse that with the phasey 'echo chamber' crap you get
off vinyl, where all halls sound the same.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On 25 Oct 2004 19:34:34 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

Ten minutes in a decent dubbing suite repairing location recordings would soon
kick some sense into them.

SP - fifteen minutes draining the sump of a Spitfire would sort out the wimps
from the men

Ten seconds - dry sump design. Or did you mean the car? Never took
more than a minute.

DP - twenty minutes piecing together The Rite of Spring from two inch pieces of
tape on the cutting room floor would show them what a real engineer can do.

Who's DP? And that's *so* easier with digital.

SP - thirty minutes crossing the Atlantic in a Spitfire feselage would show
them - no fekkin doubt about that

I estimate that to be around Mach 9, so even the fuselage would have
melted............................

DP - forty minutes taking apart a Studer, cleaning every screw in Brasso and
putting it back together blindfold would sort out that idle lot of valveys

Damn right!

SP - fifty minutes going round the world suspended from 25 model aeroplanes
would sort the men from the boys.

I think you'd need a centripetally accelerated low earth orbit for
that - the fuel cost would be horrific!

DP and SP together - an HOUR of reading our posts with matchsticks in their
eyes would sort them out - aye no doubt about that! They'd give in to a man.

Damn right!
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 17:37:57 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Andy Evans" wrote in message
...
You may mean it as a joke, but that's rather brought into question your
pronouncements on other matters

Check Cage 4m33


Did I see that dickhead make some remark about recording 'ambience'?

Must be for 'digital' - 'ambience' is one the areas in which vinyl
trounces
CD for 'listening quality'....

(So that says a fair bit, dunnit....??? :-)

Actually no, you need digital to capture the *true* ambience of the
hall. Never confuse that with the phasey 'echo chamber' crap you get
off vinyl, where all halls sound the same.


Er, can you not see the 'most used' bit in this:

"One of my most used wild tracks consists of about 100 people sitting in a
court room doing near enough nothing - and certainly not talking..."

???

Hardly looks like it could possibly the 'true ambience' of anything but the
*original location*, don't it...???

On 25 Oct 2004 19:34:34 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

DP - forty minutes taking apart a Studer, cleaning every screw in Brasso
and
putting it back together blindfold would sort out that idle lot of valveys

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...

Damn right!

Not if they were Studer C37's or J37's.
They were valve machines, and consequently now the
most sought after.

Iain

In article ,
Iain M Churches wrote:
Not if they were Studer C37's or J37's.
They were valve machines, and consequently now the
most sought after.

Probably because they're the rarest. A80/800 and B62s were used in vast
numbers in broadcasting - C37s somewhat of a rarity outside the top
recording studios.

--
*Acupuncture is a jab well done.*

Dave Plowman London SW
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