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totojepast November 14th 04 09:24 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?

Hammerer November 14th 04 10:03 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 

"totojepast" wrote in message
om...

please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?


Try "Gramophone Pal" from 'WeLuvLPs' Software Ltd. It costs a bomb, but you
get a free robotic arm that cranks the handle for you.



michael turner November 14th 04 11:28 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:24:30 -0800, totojepast wrote:

please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?


Get yourself a microphone and something like Goldwave. plug the mic
into your soundcard, place the mic near the gramophone's horn, and record
the mic.s output using Goldwave. Not forgetting to wind the gramophone up
before doing the recording, they tend to work better this way.

--
Michael Turner
Email (ROT13)


leo November 14th 04 11:43 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
In message , totojepast
writes
please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?


I use Wave Repair to convert LP input to WAV and fix any scratches etc.
There are millions of programs out there which will convert from WAV to
MP3



--
leo

leo November 14th 04 11:47 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
In message , michael turner
writes
On Sun, 14 Nov 2004 14:24:30 -0800, totojepast wrote:

please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?


Get yourself a microphone and something like Goldwave. plug the mic
into your soundcard, place the mic near the gramophone's horn, and record
the mic.s output using Goldwave. Not forgetting to wind the gramophone up
before doing the recording, they tend to work better this way.


Does he mean a gramophone, or something with some sort of electrical
output?



--
leo

michael turner November 15th 04 07:21 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 01:07:14 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In article ,
leo wrote:
Does he mean a gramophone, or something with some sort of electrical
output?


A gramophone plays records. Can be either mechanical or electronic.
Phonograph usually is accepted as only a mechanical type in the UK.


I was under the impression that a 'phonograph' was something that played
wax-cylinders.

Then I had a quick look at the *dictionary* definitions:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gramophone
....and one of the definitions says:

"an antique record player; the sound of the vibrating needle is
amplified acoustically." ... which is what I thought the OP meant.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=phonograph

....ah well we all learn something new every day. :-)

--
Michael Turner
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Dave Plowman (News) November 15th 04 10:52 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
In article ,
michael turner wrote:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=gramophone
...and one of the definitions says:


"an antique record player; the sound of the vibrating needle is
amplified acoustically." ... which is what I thought the OP meant.


Think that's a sort of hindsight definition. Think of radiogram. That was
a common name well after acoustic gramophones were near history.
Record player sort of came in with Dansette, etc. Meant a transportable
(and cheap and nasty) gramophone in the days when all those sort of things
needed mains.

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Paddy November 16th 04 07:33 AM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
(totojepast) wrote in message . com...
please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?


Theoretically at least, you should be able to scan the grooves with a
laser micrometer arrangement and make a computer model of your LP.
You could then process that map to extract the wav content of the
sound.

Your biggest problem might be in choosing an encoder to convert the
wav to mp3.

Ian Molton November 16th 04 08:38 AM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
Paddy wrote:
(totojepast) wrote in message . com...

please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?



Theoretically at least, you should be able to scan the grooves with a
laser micrometer arrangement and make a computer model of your LP.


Thats been done, although I dont recall the product ever reaching the
marketplace...

Rogue Terrorist State November 16th 04 12:55 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
In (Paddy) writes:

(totojepast) wrote in message . com...
please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?


Theoretically at least, you should be able to scan the grooves with a
laser micrometer arrangement and make a computer model of your LP.
You could then process that map to extract the wav content of the
sound.


Your biggest problem might be in choosing an encoder to convert the
wav to mp3.


Interesting idea...has anyone actually accomplished this?

~~~~R.T.S.
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Rogue Terrorist State November 16th 04 01:01 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
In Ian Molton writes:

Paddy wrote:
(totojepast) wrote in message . com...

please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?



Theoretically at least, you should be able to scan the grooves with a
laser micrometer arrangement and make a computer model of your LP.


Thats been done, although I dont recall the product ever reaching the
marketplace...


Are you refering to the Finial Technology laser turntable?
Here it is:

http://www.elpj.com/

HTH

~~~~R.T.S.
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michael turner November 16th 04 06:49 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:55:20 +0000, Rogue Terrorist State wrote:

In (Paddy) writes:

(totojepast) wrote in message . com...
please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?


Theoretically at least, you should be able to scan the grooves with a
laser micrometer arrangement and make a computer model of your LP.
You could then process that map to extract the wav content of the
sound.


Your biggest problem might be in choosing an encoder to convert the
wav to mp3.


Interesting idea...has anyone actually accomplished this?


Yes...

http://www.elpj.com/
The ELP Laser Turntable (laser gramophone ;-) ).

--
Michael Turner
Email (ROT13)


Ian Molton November 17th 04 01:56 AM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
Rogue Terrorist State wrote:

Thats been done, although I dont recall the product ever reaching the
marketplace...


Are you refering to the Finial Technology laser turntable?
Here it is:

http://www.elpj.com/


Oh that is so cool. Thats the one - I saw t on tomorrows world years
ago. Nice to see it come to market.

I wonder how it measures...

Stewart Pinkerton November 17th 04 07:13 AM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:56:12 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:

Rogue Terrorist State wrote:

Thats been done, although I dont recall the product ever reaching the
marketplace...


Are you refering to the Finial Technology laser turntable?
Here it is:

http://www.elpj.com/


Oh that is so cool. Thats the one - I saw t on tomorrows world years
ago. Nice to see it come to market.

I wonder how it measures...


Very badly, because it tracks specks of dust impeccably, leaving your
speaker cones in a neat pile on the carpet.................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Rogue Terrorist State November 17th 04 12:32 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
In Stewart Pinkerton writes:

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:56:12 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:


Rogue Terrorist State wrote:


Are you refering to the Finial Technology laser turntable?
Here it is:

http://www.elpj.com/


Oh that is so cool. Thats the one - I saw t on tomorrows world years
ago. Nice to see it come to market.
I wonder how it measures...


Very badly, because it tracks specks of dust impeccably, leaving your
speaker cones in a neat pile on the carpet.................


Cite please? Methinks you're exagerating a bit.
Yes, Finial used to (still does?) include a packburn noise-suppression unit
as part of the package.

And the machine does have a reputation for being finicky when it comes
to any dust/foreign matter in the grooves.

But can you cite some evidence that it's a "speaker-destroyer"?

~~~~R.T.S.
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Stewart Pinkerton November 17th 04 05:13 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:32:21 +0000 (UTC),
lid (Rogue Terrorist State) wrote:

In Stewart Pinkerton writes:

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:56:12 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:


Rogue Terrorist State wrote:


Are you refering to the Finial Technology laser turntable?
Here it is:

http://www.elpj.com/

Oh that is so cool. Thats the one - I saw t on tomorrows world years
ago. Nice to see it come to market.
I wonder how it measures...


Very badly, because it tracks specks of dust impeccably, leaving your
speaker cones in a neat pile on the carpet.................


Cite please? Methinks you're exagerating a bit.
Yes, Finial used to (still does?) include a packburn noise-suppression unit
as part of the package.

And the machine does have a reputation for being finicky when it comes
to any dust/foreign matter in the grooves.

But can you cite some evidence that it's a "speaker-destroyer"?


Poetic licence, hyperbole for effect. Stone-draggers don't *need* a
music-suppression unit. :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Paddy November 20th 04 01:06 AM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
michael turner wrote in message ...
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:55:20 +0000, Rogue Terrorist State wrote:

In (Paddy) writes:

(totojepast) wrote in message . com...
please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?


Theoretically at least, you should be able to scan the grooves with a
laser micrometer arrangement and make a computer model of your LP.
You could then process that map to extract the wav content of the
sound.


Your biggest problem might be in choosing an encoder to convert the
wav to mp3.


Interesting idea...has anyone actually accomplished this?


Yes...

http://www.elpj.com/
The ELP Laser Turntable (laser gramophone ;-) ).


That's the one. But the technology can't cope well with the usual
vinyl imperfections.
What I would like to do is scan the groove to a CAD image. Correct
that image manually, and then convert the image to wav. Naturally,
when I say manually, I mean with a good suite of editing tools.

SpecialAKA November 20th 04 10:54 AM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:32:21 +0000 (UTC),
lid (Rogue Terrorist State) wrote:

In Stewart Pinkerton writes:

On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 02:56:12 +0000, Ian Molton wrote:


Rogue Terrorist State wrote:


Are you refering to the Finial Technology laser turntable?
Here it is:

http://www.elpj.com/

Oh that is so cool. Thats the one - I saw t on tomorrows world years
ago. Nice to see it come to market.
I wonder how it measures...


Very badly, because it tracks specks of dust impeccably, leaving your
speaker cones in a neat pile on the carpet.................


Cite please? Methinks you're exagerating a bit.
Yes, Finial used to (still does?) include a packburn noise-suppression unit
as part of the package.

And the machine does have a reputation for being finicky when it comes
to any dust/foreign matter in the grooves.

But can you cite some evidence that it's a "speaker-destroyer"?


Because I said so and I can afford to pay other people to say so too?

normanstrong November 20th 04 03:18 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 

"Paddy" wrote in message
om...

That's the one. But the technology can't cope well with the usual
vinyl imperfections.
What I would like to do is scan the groove to a CAD image. Correct
that image manually, and then convert the image to wav. Naturally,
when I say manually, I mean with a good suite of editing tools.


I recommend using an ordinary turntable with a stylus. Use Waverepair
to make a wav file, and to fix the defects.

Norm Strong



leo November 20th 04 05:40 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
In message m7Knd.643951$8_6.322225@attbi_s04, normanstrong
writes

"Paddy" wrote in message
. com...

That's the one. But the technology can't cope well with the usual
vinyl imperfections.
What I would like to do is scan the groove to a CAD image. Correct
that image manually, and then convert the image to wav. Naturally,
when I say manually, I mean with a good suite of editing tools.


I recommend using an ordinary turntable with a stylus. Use Waverepair
to make a wav file, and to fix the defects.


If you have an old turntable I would recommend getting a new stylus for
it, pref an elliptical

--
leo

RdM November 21st 04 12:02 AM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
(Paddy) in
uk.rec.audioaaba1f61.0411191806.4a123e5c@posting. google.com:

: Theoretically at least, you should be able to scan the grooves with a
: laser micrometer arrangement and make a computer model of your LP.
: You could then process that map to extract the wav content of the
: sound.
:
: Your biggest problem might be in choosing an encoder to convert the
: wav to mp3.
:
: Interesting idea...has anyone actually accomplished this?
:
: Yes...
:
:
http://www.elpj.com/
: The ELP Laser Turntable (laser gramophone ;-) ).
:
: That's the one. But the technology can't cope well with the usual
: vinyl imperfections.
: What I would like to do is scan the groove to a CAD image. Correct
: that image manually, and then convert the image to wav. Naturally,
: when I say manually, I mean with a good suite of editing tools.

Don't expect to fit the device into your living room, though ...

http://www.newscientist.com/hottopic...=Hot%20Stories

"So researchers at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in California,
US, adapted a sensitive instrument used to build a colossal particle
accelerator as a highly sensitive optical recording method.

"This enabled us to develop a non-contact way to measure delicate records
without the need for much operator intervention," says Vitaliy Fadeyev
who developed the technique with colleague Carl Haber. "It also has the
potential to digitally reassemble broken discs."

[ .. ]

"The researchers have shown that the technique can faithfully restore
some extremely rare recordings to their former glory, including the 1950
recording of "Goodnight Irene" by Huddie "Leadbelly" Ledbetter.

The team have released two audio clips (Windows Audio File format) to
highlight the difference between the recordings before and after the
optical technique was applied."
--

There's a couple of wavs to compare,1.59MB & 1.61MB.

Stephen Worth November 21st 04 06:04 AM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
In article , leo
wrote:

If you have an old turntable I would recommend getting a new stylus for
it, pref an elliptical


Elliptical stylii are harder on vinyl, particularly when they are
misaligned, which it's very easy to have happen. They're great for one
off transcriptions, but for everyday use a rounded conical is much
better.

See ya
Steve

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Ian Molton November 21st 04 08:48 AM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
RdM wrote:

http://www.newscientist.com/hottopic...=Hot%20Stories


OMG. they're using a 5-story-high laser micrometer to read a record...

that has to rate as one of the better total misuses of a scientific
resource this century...

emevas November 21st 04 05:11 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
(Paddy) wrote in message . com...
michael turner wrote in message ...
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:55:20 +0000, Rogue Terrorist State wrote:

In
(Paddy) writes:

(totojepast) wrote in message . com...
please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?


Theoretically at least, you should be able to scan the grooves with a
laser micrometer arrangement and make a computer model of your LP.
You could then process that map to extract the wav content of the
sound.


Your biggest problem might be in choosing an encoder to convert the
wav to mp3.

Interesting idea...has anyone actually accomplished this?


Yes...

http://www.elpj.com/
The ELP Laser Turntable (laser gramophone ;-) ).


That's the one. But the technology can't cope well with the usual
vinyl imperfections.
What I would like to do is scan the groove to a CAD image. Correct
that image manually, and then convert the image to wav. Naturally,
when I say manually, I mean with a good suite of editing tools.



Philips makes a portable MP3 player that records using audio input
cables and has a bulit in microphone (the HDD120). Just plug it in and
record. Then transfer to your computer, if you like (PC only). Here's
the link to amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...754673-7155858

Paddy November 21st 04 10:42 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
Ian Molton wrote in message ...
RdM wrote:

http://www.newscientist.com/hottopic...=Hot%20Stories


OMG. they're using a 5-story-high laser micrometer to read a record...

that has to rate as one of the better total misuses of a scientific
resource this century...


Not at all. That's R&D trying to justify their budget with a
non-military application. Now if Engineering could only shrink the
package to slot into a computer hard-disc bay.

Stimpy November 22nd 04 07:22 AM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
Paddy wrote:

OMG. they're using a 5-story-high laser micrometer to read a
record...

that has to rate as one of the better total misuses of a scientific
resource this century...


Not at all. That's R&D trying to justify their budget with a
non-military application. Now if Engineering could only shrink the
package to slot into a computer hard-disc bay.


Er... how would you fit the LP into the slot? ;-)))



Don Pearce November 22nd 04 07:27 AM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 08:22:39 -0000, "Stimpy"
wrote:

Paddy wrote:

OMG. they're using a 5-story-high laser micrometer to read a
record...

that has to rate as one of the better total misuses of a scientific
resource this century...


Not at all. That's R&D trying to justify their budget with a
non-military application. Now if Engineering could only shrink the
package to slot into a computer hard-disc bay.


Er... how would you fit the LP into the slot? ;-)))

A couple of minutes in a warm oven see to that.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

Dave Plowman (News) November 22nd 04 08:58 AM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
In article ,
Don Pearce wrote:
Er... how would you fit the LP into the slot? ;-)))

A couple of minutes in a warm oven see to that.


Remember the 'fashion' of heating LPs to make vases etc?

Best use for them...

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

vinylman December 17th 04 06:20 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
See: Convert Your Vinyl Records to CD or MP3 Format

at: http://www.thelaughingpapillon.com/articles.php

"totojepast" wrote in message
om...
please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?




Jim Breckenridge December 17th 04 11:41 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
vinylman wrote:
See: Convert Your Vinyl Records to CD or MP3 Format

at: http://www.thelaughingpapillon.com/articles.php

"totojepast" wrote in message
om...

please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?




here's another place to look
http://www.a-reny.com/iexplorer/restauration.html

Julie Whitehead March 4th 06 11:03 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 
try sound recorder/editor by polderbits
"totojepast" wrote in message
om...
please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?




March 5th 06 04:12 PM

a convenient conversion of LP's into MP3's?
 

"Julie Whitehead" wrote in message
...
try sound recorder/editor by polderbits
"totojepast" wrote in message
om...
please could you recommend me a software which is able to capture a
music from an LP being played on a gramophone and convert it into
MP3's?


I've done this quite a few times. If you want recommendations, e-mail me.

Norm Strong




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