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Recording Vinyl to CD
For a while I have been looking into alternatives for recording vinyl:
1. External USB soundcard (have a notebook running Win98) - haven't found any that seems stable on stock Win98 (at least not at reasonble cost). 2. Dedicated CR-R recorder. 3. MP3 player with line in and wav support. What is the best (suggestion on brands/models). Problem with 1 seems mostly to get it working without dropouts in the USB, sometimes limitations on setting volume (Edirol UA-1A), finding software to do the recording (including setting volume - finding peak signal of recording to avoid clipping). A MP3 player with wav seems to be the simplest but I don't know what sound quality you get. What about practical problems with setting volume on a dedicated CR-R recorder? Would appreciate som comments from people who has tried this. Ronny |
Recording Vinyl to CD
Ronny Svensson wrote:
For a while I have been looking into alternatives for recording vinyl: 1. External USB soundcard (have a notebook running Win98) - haven't found any that seems stable on stock Win98 (at least not at reasonble cost). 2. Dedicated CR-R recorder. 3. MP3 player with line in and wav support. What is the best (suggestion on brands/models). Problem with 1 seems mostly to get it working without dropouts in the USB, sometimes limitations on setting volume (Edirol UA-1A), finding software to do the recording (including setting volume - finding peak signal of recording to avoid clipping). A MP3 player with wav seems to be the simplest but I don't know what sound quality you get. What about practical problems with setting volume on a dedicated CR-R recorder? Would appreciate som comments from people who has tried this. Ronny I think it depends on a couple of things - related to money, convenience and quality of recording. I wouldn't rule a computer out - just take a line out from the amplifier and plug it into the line in of the computer's sound card. You're rather at the mercy of the computer's electronics, but it should work fine. If your laptop doesn't have a soundcard (which I'd guess might be the case) Creative do a cheapish USB device, but then win98 isn't the most USB friendly OS IME. I went the the standalone CDR (NAD 660 I thnk) route a while ago and recently bought a Yamaha HD CD recorder (HD1300?). Designed for the job. On levels you do have to manually set the recording level, which is sometimes a little low using my turntable but never a problem in practice. And you need to bear in mind the copy protection for first generation cd copy and the extra cost of audio cds for consumer units. But overall I think they're just the thing, if you can afford it and you get a bit sick of staring into a computer screen. I've got no recommendation model-wise. I did some research (newgroups, web) before buying - I found not much difference in sound; you pay for name, facilities and build. The NAD and Yamaha have never missed a beat. Rob |
Recording Vinyl to CD
I think doing it all via the laptop might be the limiting factor. I've done
a lot of vinyl to CD, (WAV and MP3). My hi-fi is connected to a good quality stereo soundcard (as opposed to the multi-channel do-everything-gamer-card). I record analogue into software (cool edit 2000) which can amplify to my hearts content. These 'hand recorded' tracks always sound better to me than the purely digital rips from CDEx. There are a few audiophile soundcards out there for less than £200, and I'm told that 'Audacity' is good free editing software. Dave W. "Ronny Svensson" wrote in message om... For a while I have been looking into alternatives for recording vinyl: 1. External USB soundcard (have a notebook running Win98) - haven't found any that seems stable on stock Win98 (at least not at reasonble cost). 2. Dedicated CR-R recorder. 3. MP3 player with line in and wav support. What is the best (suggestion on brands/models). Problem with 1 seems mostly to get it working without dropouts in the USB, sometimes limitations on setting volume (Edirol UA-1A), finding software to do the recording (including setting volume - finding peak signal of recording to avoid clipping). A MP3 player with wav seems to be the simplest but I don't know what sound quality you get. What about practical problems with setting volume on a dedicated CR-R recorder? Would appreciate som comments from people who has tried this. Ronny |
Recording Vinyl to CD
In article , Ronny
Svensson wrote: What about practical problems with setting volume on a dedicated CR-R recorder? Would appreciate som comments from people who has tried this. I bought an audio CD-RW recorded a few years ago. My experience is that setting suitable levels and making recordings from LPs is simple and works fine. Slainte, Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html |
Recording Vinyl to CD
I have the same recorder and my husband (recording from sat TV) is building
up a great archive of Jazz CDs. Wonderful sound! However, I initially bought the recorder for the purpose of copying my vinyl and I've just started to do so but unfortunately I can't work out how to get the tracks placed automatically, I was successful in doing so only by listening and place tracks manually. I am mainly recording full operas which require much time. Do you know whether I might be doing something wrong when I record and that is why I don't get the tracks placed automatically? Can you please give me some advice? Many thanks. TG Rob wrote: Ronny Svensson wrote: For a while I have been looking into alternatives for recording vinyl: 1. External USB soundcard (have a notebook running Win98) - haven't found any that seems stable on stock Win98 (at least not at reasonble cost). 2. Dedicated CR-R recorder. 3. MP3 player with line in and wav support. What is the best (suggestion on brands/models). Problem with 1 seems mostly to get it working without dropouts in the USB, sometimes limitations on setting volume (Edirol UA-1A), finding software to do the recording (including setting volume - finding peak signal of recording to avoid clipping). A MP3 player with wav seems to be the simplest but I don't know what sound quality you get. What about practical problems with setting volume on a dedicated CR-R recorder? Would appreciate som comments from people who has tried this. Ronny I think it depends on a couple of things - related to money, convenience and quality of recording. I wouldn't rule a computer out - just take a line out from the amplifier and plug it into the line in of the computer's sound card. You're rather at the mercy of the computer's electronics, but it should work fine. If your laptop doesn't have a soundcard (which I'd guess might be the case) Creative do a cheapish USB device, but then win98 isn't the most USB friendly OS IME. I went the the standalone CDR (NAD 660 I thnk) route a while ago and recently bought a Yamaha HD CD recorder (HD1300?). Designed for the job. On levels you do have to manually set the recording level, which is sometimes a little low using my turntable but never a problem in practice. And you need to bear in mind the copy protection for first generation cd copy and the extra cost of audio cds for consumer units. But overall I think they're just the thing, if you can afford it and you get a bit sick of staring into a computer screen. I've got no recommendation model-wise. I did some research (newgroups, web) before buying - I found not much difference in sound; you pay for name, facilities and build. The NAD and Yamaha have never missed a beat. Rob |
Recording Vinyl to CD
I have been using dedicated CD recorders for the past 4 years or so and am
very well satisfied with the results. I always prefer dedicated equipment and a dedicated recorder fits in much better with a component audio system than a PC, at least for my purposes. Pioneer recorders have usually recieved great press reviews and I have two of them. The JVC which was my first one seemed a bit cumbersome for my use and defaulted to selectable parameters I did not wish to use. More recently I bought a Sony RCD-W500C which also does a good job. I would strongly recommend a model with separate playback and record units as it makes copying a CD simple and easy in most cases. Most of the dedicated recorders will automatically make an Audio COpy of a disc if for some reason ( such as copyright protection ) a digital copy can not be made. Most of the consumer recorders will not make a digital copy of a copy but will make a digital copy of an original ( store bought type ) disc. My primary reason for getting a CD Recorder was to record many of my treasured 45's purchased over the past 5 decades, onto CD and I have had great results with this as well as LP Albums. Record level is set in a similar way as you would on a cassette tape recorder with some exceptions. If you go over 0db you will get a blank spot in the playback. If you are recording a record with scratches, these may push the level over th 0db mark and cause a momentary silence in your finished CD. To overcome this I set the level to the point where the loudest scratch will not go over the 0db mark whenever possible. There are a few semi-pro and pro recorders such as Tascam and others that will record onto regular computer discs instead of having to use the specially encoded discs for consumer type dedicated CD Recorders although the pro models will initially cost you more. Sometimes shopping around can get you better prices on the blanks discs for the consumer Dedicated Recorders. I am in the USA and pay $18.00 for a spindle pack of 50 discs which comes out to about 36 cents ( US ) per disc. On one of my recent visits to the UK I noticed Richer SOunds was selling individual discs in plastic jewell boxes for something like 49p each with the Maxell Brand on them. I used a few when I was over there and they seemed to do a good job. I have no experience in recording audio onto CD using a computer yet so the dedicated audio component style recorder was the way for me to go and I am very happy with that. Out of the machines I have, I prefer the Pioneer to the others for sound and ease of use although that is a personal preference. "Ronny Svensson" wrote in message om... For a while I have been looking into alternatives for recording vinyl: 1. External USB soundcard (have a notebook running Win98) - haven't found any that seems stable on stock Win98 (at least not at reasonble cost). 2. Dedicated CR-R recorder. 3. MP3 player with line in and wav support. What is the best (suggestion on brands/models). Problem with 1 seems mostly to get it working without dropouts in the USB, sometimes limitations on setting volume (Edirol UA-1A), finding software to do the recording (including setting volume - finding peak signal of recording to avoid clipping). A MP3 player with wav seems to be the simplest but I don't know what sound quality you get. What about practical problems with setting volume on a dedicated CR-R recorder? Would appreciate som comments from people who has tried this. Ronny |
Recording Vinyl to CD
Tety Garf wrote:
I have the same recorder and my husband (recording from sat TV) is building up a great archive of Jazz CDs. Wonderful sound! However, I initially bought the recorder for the purpose of copying my vinyl and I've just started to do so but unfortunately I can't work out how to get the tracks placed automatically, I was successful in doing so only by listening and place tracks manually. I am mainly recording full operas which require much time. Do you know whether I might be doing something wrong when I record and that is why I don't get the tracks placed automatically? Can you please give me some advice? Many thanks. TG Rob wrote: Do you mean the NAD or the Yamaha? Rob |
Recording Vinyl to CD
It is the Yamaha CDR-HD1300
may thanks. TG Rob wrote: Tety Garf wrote: I have the same recorder and my husband (recording from sat TV) is building up a great archive of Jazz CDs. Wonderful sound! However, I initially bought the recorder for the purpose of copying my vinyl and I've just started to do so but unfortunately I can't work out how to get the tracks placed automatically, I was successful in doing so only by listening and place tracks manually. I am mainly recording full operas which require much time. Do you know whether I might be doing something wrong when I record and that is why I don't get the tracks placed automatically? Can you please give me some advice? Many thanks. TG Rob wrote: Do you mean the NAD or the Yamaha? Rob |
Recording Vinyl to CD
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 20:19:55 GMT, Tety Garf
wrote: It is the Yamaha CDR-HD1300 may thanks. TG Rob wrote: Tety Garf wrote: I have the same recorder and my husband (recording from sat TV) is building up a great archive of Jazz CDs. Wonderful sound! However, I initially bought the recorder for the purpose of copying my vinyl and I've just started to do so but unfortunately I can't work out how to get the tracks placed automatically, I was successful in doing so only by listening and place tracks manually. I am mainly recording full operas which require much time. Do you know whether I might be doing something wrong when I record and that is why I don't get the tracks placed automatically? Can you please give me some advice? I also have an HD1300. My experience with classical music is that there is really no alternative to going through the recording manually, adjusting the track boundaries as necessary. This is, as you say, time consuming. (My DAT recorders were just the same in this respect - just rather slower.) One thing that makes life easier is to use the video output from the HD1300. You can see much more on a television screen then on the unit's display. Unfortunately, the video output appears to be a last minute addition and could be vastly improved. Yamaha have also missed out a number of very useful enhancements that would have made the HD1300 much better - level normalisation over a track, disc or album and a graphical editing display being the most obvious. One lives in hope of a firmware upgrade. -- Chris Isbell Southampton, UK |
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