I am using Quad 34 & 606 II amplification with a Marantz CD40, Denon TU260L,
and Epos ES11 speakers. While I am happy with the performance of the
amplification, I am having problems with the volume settings. Most of my
listening is done with the volume control set at 1 or 2, and with some newer
recordings, which seem to be recorded at ever higher levels, 1 is too loud.

The CD input is the standard 300mV version - Assuming I could find one,
would it be worth getting the 500mV option? Or should I use in-line
attenuators or attenuated interconnects between CD player and pre-amp, and
if so, where can I get such items? Is it preferable to use attenuation
between source and pre rather then pre and power?

Any other suggestions?

TIA.

You need something like this, found from quick Googling
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazin...3/rothwell.htm


"Old Fart at Play" wrote in message
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kake wrote:

I am using Quad 34 & 606 II amplification with a Marantz CD40, Denon
TU260L,
and Epos ES11 speakers. While I am happy with the performance of the
amplification, I am having problems with the volume settings. Most of my
listening is done with the volume control set at 1 or 2, and with some
newer
recordings, which seem to be recorded at ever higher levels, 1 is too
loud.

The CD input is the standard 300mV version - Assuming I could find one,
would it be worth getting the 500mV option? Or should I use in-line
attenuators or attenuated interconnects between CD player and pre-amp,
and
if so, where can I get such items? Is it preferable to use attenuation
between source and pre rather then pre and power?

Any other suggestions?


Buy 4 resistors and a soldering iron.
Tell us the output voltage and minimum recommended load
for the CD player and we can tell you what value resistors.

Attenuation goes between source and preamp.

You could modify the Quad input card to give the required
sensitivity.

Roger.

"kake" wrote in message
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I am using Quad 34 & 606 II amplification with a Marantz CD40, Denon
TU260L,
and Epos ES11 speakers. While I am happy with the performance of the
amplification, I am having problems with the volume settings. Most of
my
listening is done with the volume control set at 1 or 2, and with some
newer
recordings, which seem to be recorded at ever higher levels, 1 is too
loud.

The CD input is the standard 300mV version - Assuming I could find
one,
would it be worth getting the 500mV option? Or should I use in-line
attenuators or attenuated interconnects between CD player and pre-amp,
and
if so, where can I get such items? Is it preferable to use attenuation
between source and pre rather then pre and power?

Any other suggestions?

TIA.


I used a Marantz CD-63 mkII for years with a Quad 34/306/FM4 and had no
problems.

The output of the CDP is 2V RMS (200 Ohms impedance) according to the
book of words and I was using the standard 300mV CD input.

What is the output of your CDP?


--
RobH
The future's dim, the future's mono.

In ,
Dave xxxxxxxxx typed:
Have just been talking to Quad, I have this problem with the new Quad
II-forties. The answer is to but a lead with 11 db attenuation in it.

I have ordered one from Russ Andrews.


http://www.russandrews.com/product.a...ency=GBP&pf_id
=2110&customer_id=PAA1256082003441SYBTEZKNPMNUFWFE

Hi

Unless you *want* (for other reasons...) to spend £113 on a phono cable, it
is not necessary purely from an attenuation point of view.

I find it fascinating that selecting the attenuated cable makes the price
jump from £88 to £113.

Twenty five quid is a hell of a lot of money for four 5 pence resistors...

To the original poster, anyone handy with a soldering iron could make you an
attenuated lead for less than £10.

Regards,

Steve

"Steve" wrote in message
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In ,
Dave xxxxxxxxx typed:
Have just been talking to Quad, I have this problem with the new Quad
II-forties. The answer is to but a lead with 11 db attenuation in it.

I have ordered one from Russ Andrews.



http://www.russandrews.com/product.a...ency=GBP&pf_id
=2110&customer_id=PAA1256082003441SYBTEZKNPMNUFWFE

Hi

Unless you *want* (for other reasons...) to spend £113 on a phono cable,
it
is not necessary purely from an attenuation point of view.

I find it fascinating that selecting the attenuated cable makes the price
jump from £88 to £113.

Twenty five quid is a hell of a lot of money for four 5 pence resistors...

To the original poster, anyone handy with a soldering iron could make you
an
attenuated lead for less than £10.

Regards,

Steve



Less than £3 if you get the parts at the right place!


--
Woody

"Steve" wrote in message


Unless you *want* (for other reasons...) to spend £113 on a phono cable,
it
is not necessary purely from an attenuation point of view.

I find it fascinating that selecting the attenuated cable makes the price
jump from £88 to £113.

Twenty five quid is a hell of a lot of money for four 5 pence resistors...

To the original poster, anyone handy with a soldering iron could make you
an
attenuated lead for less than £10.

Regards,

Steve

I too find it strange that it costs so much, the item comes on 60 day free
trial. So I order cable and have plenty of time to play with it.


If I like the cable, I will keep it.

I am not sure how the cable is attenuated, its done I think in the phono
plug.... they say.........................


"We can attenuate KIMBER and Russ Andrews interconnects, using special
components inside the phono plugs to reduce the output level of your CD,
SACD, or DVD player. This stops the amplifier overloading, giving a
smoother, sweeter and more three dimensional sound without any side effects.
To check which level of attenuation is best for your system, consult our
attenuation guide. "

If I like the cable, I just look at the total cost which is
£113, which I am happy to spend on a cable, each to his own budget.

best wishes

Dave xxxxx

tony sayer wrote:




I wish I could make this kind of money bull****ing people like this ad
does. Special components my a*** you can get some perfectly good metal
film resistors from RS components that are better than the original ones
that Quad used. Price in small quantities?, 4 bl**dy pence each.

But I suppose that there are too cheap, and haven't had the obligatory
snake oil applied.

It never ceases to amaze just how gullible the public are!..

Does Russ offer a running-in service for the cables?

That should be worth another 25 quid :-)

Seriously, this is one of those rare examples of a directional cable.

Roger.

"kake" wrote in message
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I am using Quad 34 & 606 II amplification with a Marantz CD40, Denon
TU260L,
and Epos ES11 speakers. While I am happy with the performance of the
amplification, I am having problems with the volume settings.

SNIP

Since posting my query, I found a copy of the 34 manual on the net, and it
mentions increasing or decreasing the output of the pre-amp; I suspect that
the unit I have has had its output increased. As far as I know, the 34 I
have has never been serviced, and as I am totally useless with a soldering
iron, I think I may return it to Quad for servicing (and confirmation of the
current output), then getting them to adjust it as necessary - seems like a
better way of spending some money!! (£113 for a cable!!!!).

BTW, Is the current Quad service department as good as it was reputed to be
under Walker ownership?

Also, on average (if there is such a thing), how often should electronics
require servicing?

Thank you to everyone who took the time to respond with such detailed
suggestions - very much appreciated.

In article , kake
wrote:

"harrogate" wrote in message
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You don't comment about the level when using the tuner. That might
give some better pointers.....



Much the same problem as with the CD player.

That sounds like an output attenuation would be best.

Slainte,

Jim

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Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html
Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html

"kake" wrote

"kake" wrote in message
news:

BTW, Is the current Quad service department as good as it was reputed to
be
under Walker ownership?


The service department is very good, but understaffed so it can take
sometime to get kit serviced.

The cost is £40 per item ie one pre amp power amp tuner.

You also have to pay for parts, if you call and book in advance, you can
then at a later date turn up leave your kit, and collect it at the end of
the day.

This is ok if it just need a service and the odd small part, but if it needs
major bits, they might not be able to get kit serviced. Quad like other
companies do not carry a large spares, supply.


Dave xxx