Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

Hi,
just popped in to ask if anyone here happens to know the type and approx.
year of make of this
beautiful Goodmans driver. Just got me a guitar cab with 4 of these, made by
a defunct Finnish
firm Maxim. Picture as attachment.

Thanks
Simon

Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

In article , Redeemer
wrote:
Hi, just popped in to ask if anyone here happens to know the type and
approx. year of make of this beautiful Goodmans driver. Just got me a
guitar cab with 4 of these, made by a defunct Finnish firm Maxim.
Picture as attachment.

No attachment here. So far as I know, attachments are not permitted on this
group. If you have some pictures, stick them on a website and tell us the
URL. That will save those who are not interested from having to fetch
images in which they have no interest.

Slainte,

Jim

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Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

In message , Redeemer
writes
Hi,
just popped in to ask if anyone here happens to know the type and approx.
year of make of this
beautiful Goodmans driver. Just got me a guitar cab with 4 of these, made by
a defunct Finnish
firm Maxim. Picture as attachment.

Thanks
Simon



As pictures are stripped off here, can you say what is written on it?
--
Chris Morriss

Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

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In message , Redeemer
writes
Hi,
just popped in to ask if anyone here happens to know the type and approx.
year of make of this
beautiful Goodmans driver. Just got me a guitar cab with 4 of these, made
by
a defunct Finnish
firm Maxim. Picture as attachment.

Thanks
Simon



As pictures are stripped off here, can you say what is written on it?
--
Chris Morriss

Hi,
just opened my message and the picture shows allright here!
But anyway:
the speaker has a cast frame, consisting of three times three thin spokes,
has "MADE IN ENGLAND" text near the edge. The magnet is about the size of
a vinyl single, with a label silver/green in color, saying Goodmans of
England, 12" (the size in very large numbers) loudspeaker,
type:(sticker) C241A/1235/15 50 watt, made in England by Goodmans
Industries, Wembley England.


Googling the type got zero hits. Hope someone knows something about these.

Simon

Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

In message , Redeemer
writes

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...
In message , Redeemer
writes
Hi,
just popped in to ask if anyone here happens to know the type and approx.
year of make of this
beautiful Goodmans driver. Just got me a guitar cab with 4 of these, made
by
a defunct Finnish
firm Maxim. Picture as attachment.

Thanks
Simon



As pictures are stripped off here, can you say what is written on it?
--
Chris Morriss

Hi,
just opened my message and the picture shows allright here!
But anyway:
the speaker has a cast frame, consisting of three times three thin spokes,
has "MADE IN ENGLAND" text near the edge. The magnet is about the size of
a vinyl single, with a label silver/green in color, saying Goodmans of
England, 12" (the size in very large numbers) loudspeaker,
type:(sticker) C241A/1235/15 50 watt, made in England by Goodmans
Industries, Wembley England.


Googling the type got zero hits. Hope someone knows something about these.

Simon



That type of cast frame is the form that Goodmans (when they were still
a respected speaker company!) used for the later versions (around 1970)
of the Audiom 51/61 range and the Axiom 201/301. (If they are 12" that
is, the 15" unit was the Audiom 81)

These were the hi-fi versions with a plastic roll surround. Yours sound
like the PA versions with a plasticised corrugated paper cone
termination. Is this the case?
--
Chris Morriss

Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

In article ,
Redeemer wrote:
just opened my message and the picture shows allright here!

Many news servers strip off *any* attachments. Indeed most would welcome
this.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

Chris Morriss wrote:


the speaker has a cast frame, consisting of three times three thin
spokes,
has "MADE IN ENGLAND" text near the edge. The magnet is about the
size of
a vinyl single, with a label silver/green in color, saying Goodmans of
England, 12" (the size in very large numbers) loudspeaker,
type:(sticker) C241A/1235/15 50 watt, made in England by Goodmans
Industries, Wembley England.


Googling the type got zero hits. Hope someone knows something about
these.

Simon



That type of cast frame is the form that Goodmans (when they were still
a respected speaker company!) used for the later versions (around 1970)
of the Audiom 51/61 range and the Axiom 201/301. (If they are 12" that
is, the 15" unit was the Audiom 81)

These were the hi-fi versions with a plastic roll surround.

You missed out an adjective.
It should be "dreadful plastic roll surround."
I don't know what plastic Goodmans used but it shrinks over time and
ends up flat, which does wonders for the compliance and xmax.

--
Eiron.

Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

In message , Eiron
writes
Chris Morriss wrote:


the speaker has a cast frame, consisting of three times three thin
spokes,
has "MADE IN ENGLAND" text near the edge. The magnet is about the
size of
a vinyl single, with a label silver/green in color, saying Goodmans of
England, 12" (the size in very large numbers) loudspeaker,
type:(sticker) C241A/1235/15 50 watt, made in England by Goodmans
Industries, Wembley England.


Googling the type got zero hits. Hope someone knows something about
these.

Simon


That type of cast frame is the form that Goodmans (when they were
still a respected speaker company!) used for the later versions
(around 1970) of the Audiom 51/61 range and the Axiom 201/301. (If
they are 12" that is, the 15" unit was the Audiom 81)
These were the hi-fi versions with a plastic roll surround.

You missed out an adjective.
It should be "dreadful plastic roll surround."
I don't know what plastic Goodmans used but it shrinks over time and
ends up flat, which does wonders for the compliance and xmax.


That's true! My Axiom 301s are all OK, but my sole Audiom 81 has this
problem. Actually not all that bad, but the plastic surround isn't a
nice semi-circular profile all around the circumference any more.
I guess to an experienced speaker re-coner, putting a new roll surround
on would be a simple task.
--
Chris Morriss

Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

That type of cast frame is the form that Goodmans (when they were still
a respected speaker company!) used for the later versions (around 1970)
of the Audiom 51/61 range and the Axiom 201/301. (If they are 12" that
is, the 15" unit was the Audiom 81)

These were the hi-fi versions with a plastic roll surround. Yours sound
like the PA versions with a plasticised corrugated paper cone
termination. Is this the case?
--
Chris Morris

Yep, no plastic roll here. I remember seeing a couple of those back in the
eighties, they were some
double cone type.. the plastic was all wrinkled even they weren't that old
at the time.
So my speakers are of Audiom range, right?

Thanks

Simon

Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

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Redeemer wrote:
So my speakers are of Audiom range, right?

Think they'd be labelled as such if they were. Sounds like they're earlier.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

In message , Redeemer
writes


That type of cast frame is the form that Goodmans (when they were still
a respected speaker company!) used for the later versions (around 1970)
of the Audiom 51/61 range and the Axiom 201/301. (If they are 12" that
is, the 15" unit was the Audiom 81)

These were the hi-fi versions with a plastic roll surround. Yours sound
like the PA versions with a plasticised corrugated paper cone
termination. Is this the case?
--
Chris Morris

Yep, no plastic roll here. I remember seeing a couple of those back in the
eighties, they were some
double cone type.. the plastic was all wrinkled even they weren't that old
at the time.
So my speakers are of Audiom range, right?

Thanks

Simon



Audioms usually have a sign saying 'Audiom 12P' or something like that
though.
--
Chris Morriss

Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Redeemer wrote:
So my speakers are of Audiom range, right?

Think they'd be labelled as such if they were. Sounds like they're earlier.


I don't know. The early Axioms and Audioms used a cast chassis with
thicker curved ribs. The triple thin straight ones are the later type.

Can the original poster email me a pic? Preferably one of the cone
side, and one of the label?
--
Chris Morriss

Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Redeemer wrote:
So my speakers are of Audiom range, right?

Think they'd be labelled as such if they were. Sounds like they're
earlier.


I don't know. The early Axioms and Audioms used a cast chassis with
thicker curved ribs. The triple thin straight ones are the later type.

Can the original poster email me a pic? Preferably one of the cone
side, and one of the label?
--
Chris Morriss


I tried to email you, some mailing daemon bumped my mail back. Is the
address you use here valid?
Mine is, so if you use some other address you email me first if you don't
want to spread it around.
I only have pics from the label side.

Simon

Vintage Goodmans 12", help?
 

In message , Redeemer
writes

"Chris Morriss" kirjoitti viestissä
...
In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Redeemer wrote:
So my speakers are of Audiom range, right?

Think they'd be labelled as such if they were. Sounds like they're
earlier.


I don't know. The early Axioms and Audioms used a cast chassis with
thicker curved ribs. The triple thin straight ones are the later type.

Can the original poster email me a pic? Preferably one of the cone
side, and one of the label?
--
Chris Morriss


I tried to email you, some mailing daemon bumped my mail back. Is the
address you use here valid?
Mine is, so if you use some other address you email me first if you don't
want to spread it around.
I only have pics from the label side.

Simon



Yes it's valid. I had the filter block emails longer than 300k though.
How big is the .jpg file?


--
Chris Morriss