none wrote:

Being a young dance-aholic, I realised when I set up my kit last week, I
have only 3 CDs in my collection with real instruments in them; the rest
are dance compilations, most recorded as mixes from vinyl - hardly the
best demo disks!
I've already ordered a stack of piano, string quartet and orchestral disks!

If you enjoy dance music, stick with.

If your hi-fi is dictating your choice of music,
something has gone woefully wrong.

BugBear

"Tat Chan" wrote in message


Would I need a headphone amp to fully appreciate a headphone like the
580?

Depends what your source is. Its mostly a matter of having enough output
level.

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:18:12 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On 12 Jan 2005 19:18:19 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

I bought one test LP a year or so ago
for the sole purpose of setting up my turntable. It has no music, and
I haven't played it since.

You should tape it for raference in case you might need it.

Or copy it to CD perhaps? I could let friends have cheap copies.

Whaaaat? Why would *anyone* want to do that, when you could copy a
test *CD* with vastly better quality? Or did I miss a smiley?


Quite a unique product, methinks. A CD for the purpose of "setting
up" a turntable.

Don. Let us know what prison the BPI send you to. I will bring you
a file in a cake next time I visit the UK.

Iain

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:36:19 +0200, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:18:12 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On 12 Jan 2005 19:18:19 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

I bought one test LP a year or so ago
for the sole purpose of setting up my turntable. It has no music, and
I haven't played it since.

You should tape it for raference in case you might need it.

Or copy it to CD perhaps? I could let friends have cheap copies.

Whaaaat? Why would *anyone* want to do that, when you could copy a
test *CD* with vastly better quality? Or did I miss a smiley?


Quite a unique product, methinks. A CD for the purpose of "setting
up" a turntable.

Don. Let us know what prison the BPI send you to. I will bring you
a file in a cake next time I visit the UK.

Iain


A nice big currant cake please, and no glace cherries.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:18:43 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:36:19 +0200, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:18:12 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On 12 Jan 2005 19:18:19 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

I bought one test LP a year or so ago
for the sole purpose of setting up my turntable. It has no music, and
I haven't played it since.

You should tape it for raference in case you might need it.

Or copy it to CD perhaps? I could let friends have cheap copies.

Whaaaat? Why would *anyone* want to do that, when you could copy a
test *CD* with vastly better quality? Or did I miss a smiley?


Quite a unique product, methinks. A CD for the purpose of "setting
up" a turntable.

Don. Let us know what prison the BPI send you to. I will bring you
a file in a cake next time I visit the UK.

Hmmmm, I wonder when the copyright runs out on my 1966 test discs?

And how would I copy a test LP?......................

If anyone wants a test CD, I'll be happy to supply, but my LPs are
irreplaceable!
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

In message , Tat Chan
writes
Chris Morriss wrote:

I've just bought a pair of decent headphones (Sennheiser HD580).
It's amazing how bad many recordings are when you hear them through
high-resolution transducers!

I thought the 580 has been phased out of production? I couldn't find a
reference to it the last time I looked. It seemed that the 580 was
replaced by the 59x range.

I listen to mp3s via a Sennheiser HD433 (cheap as chips!) through a
Creative Vibra 128 soundcard, and that combination sounds acceptable.

Might be looking at upgrading to a Sennheiser 580 or 59x for my real
stereo system at some point.

The 580, and all-but identical 600 are still in production. The line-up
of Sennheiser high-end headphones is confusing at the moment!

I compared the 580 to the 600 and I couldn't tell the difference, so I
wasn't about to pay another £70 for the carbon fibre bodies rather than
the cheaper plastic of the 580. I see Sennheiser now say the 580 and
600 are the same, apart from the (visually much nicer) CF body and metal
rear mesh of the 600.
--
Chris Morriss

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Tat Chan" wrote in message



Would I need a headphone amp to fully appreciate a headphone like the
580?


Depends what your source is. Its mostly a matter of having enough output
level.



well, my source is a CD player ...

Would it be heresy if I was to at some point use the phones with an mp3
player?

Nah, maybe not, wearing a pair of 580s on public transport isn't a cool
look ...

Chris Morriss wrote:

In message , Tat Chan
writes


I thought the 580 has been phased out of production? I couldn't find a
reference to it the last time I looked. It seemed that the 580 was
replaced by the 59x range.


The 580, and all-but identical 600 are still in production. The line-up
of Sennheiser high-end headphones is confusing at the moment!

I compared the 580 to the 600 and I couldn't tell the difference, so I
wasn't about to pay another £70 for the carbon fibre bodies rather than
the cheaper plastic of the 580. I see Sennheiser now say the 580 and
600 are the same, apart from the (visually much nicer) CF body and metal
rear mesh of the 600.

Thanks for the info. Will start looking at prices soon. Sennheisers are
overpriced in Oz. A friend got me my pair of 433s in Singapore for less
than half the local price.

Btw, do you use a dedicated headphone amp? IIRC, you have an Audiolab
amp (I could be mixing you up with someone else though!).

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:49:01 +1100, Tat Chan
wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Tat Chan" wrote in message


Would I need a headphone amp to fully appreciate a headphone like the
580?
Depends what your source is. Its mostly a matter of having enough output
level.

well, my source is a CD player ...

Would it be heresy if I was to at some point use the phones with an mp3
player?

Nah, maybe not, wearing a pair of 580s on public transport isn't a cool
look ...

Oh, I don't know - it will certainly attract attention. However, since
they are open-back noise-polluting 'phones, it might not attract
friendly attention.................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

"Tat Chan" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Tat Chan" wrote in message



Would I need a headphone amp to fully appreciate a headphone like
the 580?


Depends what your source is. Its mostly a matter of having enough
output level.

well, my source is a CD player ...

A CD player that will drive a 600 ohm load could be effective with HD580s,
as their input impedance is high enough.

Would it be heresy if I was to at some point use the phones with an
mp3 player?

No, and 580s do well with MP3s. In contrast, I like to use MDR 7506s for
taking MP3s apart.

Nah, maybe not, wearing a pair of 580s on public transport isn't a cool
look ...

Let me suggest IEMs, including Futuresonics (Sennheiser) and Shure E-3s.