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How has upgrading you system changed your CD buying habits? Do you
spend more money on demo disks? Do you buy stuff you don't really like
just becaused it is a 'DDD' CD, HDCD, SACD? Ever bought a disk just
because you read some one had used it as a listening test cd in a
reveiw? Can you honestly say you just buy the music you want to listen
to, or has getting the best out of your system become an obsession?
If Dark Side of the Moon was only in you collection on a chewed-up C-90,
would it ever get played?

I'm guilty as charged, and my player isn't even working properly yet...
Being a young dance-aholic, I realised when I set up my kit last week, I
have only 3 CDs in my collection with real instruments in them; the rest
are dance compilations, most recorded as mixes from vinyl - hardly the
best demo disks!
I've already ordered a stack of piano, string quartet and orchestral disks!

Berlin Love Parade to Berlin Phil in under a week!

:-0

Graeme

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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:13:50 +0000, none ""gfraser\"@(none)" wrote:

How has upgrading you system changed your CD buying habits? Do you
spend more money on demo disks? Do you buy stuff you don't really like
just becaused it is a 'DDD' CD, HDCD, SACD? Ever bought a disk just
because you read some one had used it as a listening test cd in a
reveiw? Can you honestly say you just buy the music you want to listen
to, or has getting the best out of your system become an obsession?
If Dark Side of the Moon was only in you collection on a chewed-up C-90,
would it ever get played?

I'm guilty as charged, and my player isn't even working properly yet...
Being a young dance-aholic, I realised when I set up my kit last week, I
have only 3 CDs in my collection with real instruments in them; the rest
are dance compilations, most recorded as mixes from vinyl - hardly the
best demo disks!
I've already ordered a stack of piano, string quartet and orchestral disks!

Berlin Love Parade to Berlin Phil in under a week!

:-0

Graeme

My collection is all music I like for the sake of the music. I don't
even look at the DDD etc labels. I bought one test LP a year or so ago
for the sole purpose of setting up my turntable. It has no music, and
I haven't played it since.

I'm not sure of your method of buying music though. I would rather
audition individual recordings than mass-buy whole genres. Take your
time and get the best stuff.

As for your CD player, how can it not be working properly "yet"? They
either work perfectly straight out of the box, or they are broken.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 10:13:50 +0000, none ""gfraser\"@(none)" wrote:
snip
As for your CD player, how can it not be working properly "yet"? They
either work perfectly straight out of the box, or they are broken.

Yes, it is faulty. See my post on Rotel RCD-02 not playing CDs. It
works for a few disks, but not others. When I say 'yet' I mean I
haven't taken it back to the shop to get a replacement unit, and don't
have time to do so until the weekend.

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In article , none
gfraser\@(none) wrote:
How has upgrading you system changed your CD buying habits?

Well, recnely, it has meant I've been buying more DVD-V's of concerts than
CD-A's... :-)


Do you spend more money on demo disks? Do you buy stuff you don't
really like just becaused it is a 'DDD' CD, HDCD, SACD?

No x 2


Ever bought a disk just because you read some one had used it as a
listening test cd in a reveiw?

No

Can you honestly say you just buy the music you want to listen to,

Yes.

or has getting the best out of your system become an obsession? If Dark
Side of the Moon was only in you collection on a chewed-up C-90, would
it ever get played?

Have a copy on LP and CD-A. Can't recall the last time I played either, but
I have enjoyed them on occasion in the past

I'm guilty as charged, and my player isn't even working properly yet...
Being a young dance-aholic, I realised when I set up my kit last week, I
have only 3 CDs in my collection with real instruments in them; the
rest are dance compilations, most recorded as mixes from vinyl - hardly
the best demo disks! I've already ordered a stack of piano, string
quartet and orchestral disks!

Berlin Love Parade to Berlin Phil in under a week!

I recent years when one or two colleagues have asked about how to get
'into' classical music I've tended to suggest:

1) FM tuner. BBCR3. Add a CD recorder. Then record some items and build up
a collection of well-produced and played concert performances you like.

2) Buy BBC Music Mag and collect the cover discs. [1]

My view is that both of these give you access to a lot of excellent music.
Once you know what composers/pieces/artists you like, you can suppliment
with commercial recordings on your favourite medium. :-)

Slainte,

Jim


[1] I greatly regret that "Jazz on CD" magazine did not survive. The
articles were good, and their cover discs were a superb way to get into
Jazz.

--
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none wrote:

How has upgrading you system changed your CD buying habits?

Not at all really, though my system has probably reduced half of my indie rock
collection to near unlistenable (from an audiophile point of view, of course).

But they sound tolerable to good once I convert them to 128-258kbps mp3s played
back through a PC and headphones ...

Do you spend more money on demo disks?

Don't have one in my collection

Do you buy stuff you don't really like just becaused it is a 'DDD' CD, HDCD, SACD?

Well, I did buy the 30th anniversary Dark Side of the Moon CD/SACD hybrid disc
because it was cheap.

Ever bought a disk just because you read some one had used it as a listening test cd in a
reveiw?

No. Though I am tempted to get the Cowboy Junkies "Trinity Sessions" CD.

Can you honestly say you just buy the music you want to listen
to, or has getting the best out of your system become an obsession?

I buy the music I listen to. If the recording is top notch, I treat it as a bonus.

Note that some of the most important pop/rock music (Beatles, Stones and
Springsteen) has really poor sound!

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" How has upgrading you system changed your CD buying habits?
No.
Do you spend more money on demo disks?
What is a demo disk ? I have a test LP bought second hand I can set up my
turntable with and a few free sampler CDs from labels and manufacturers but
they do not get played much.
Do you buy stuff you don't really like just becaused it is a 'DDD' CD,
HDCD, SACD?
I have bought disks and paid more to see if the SACD/DVD-A version is
different from CD only. I have not found any of these to be a guide to
quality.
Ever bought a disk just because you read some one had used it as a
listening test cd in a reveiw?
No, I occasionally look to see what a reviewer's comments are if I already
have the CD they used for a test.

Can you honestly say you just buy the music you want to listen to, or
has getting the best out of your system become an obsession?
The better my system is the more different disks I want to listen to. Any
"change" that only worked on certain discs is not an improvement in my
opinion.
If Dark Side of the Moon was only in you collection on a chewed-up C-90,
would it ever get played?
No , I cannot remember the last time I played a tape, even in the car. I
bought the SACD DOSM remaster because it was a different version, not the
same as the original Alan Parsons mix that I have on Lp and original CD.

I get to hear a wide range of different music as I am a member of a Hi-Fi
club and have often bought CDs that I would previously never dreamt of
buying because I liked what I heard. My worst CD purchases have usually
been buying albums by artists for whom I liked a previous CD only to find
the subsequent buy is not to my liking. That of course is the benefit of
e-bay as there is usually someone out there who will buy my cast offs.
Regards Richard

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In article , none wrote:
How has upgrading you system changed your CD buying habits?

Just after the last hardware upgrade I see from my financial records
that I started spending much more on the "software".

Do you spend more money on demo disks?

No. There is a HFNRR test LP in the rack but that's for use once in a blue
moon for set-up reasons. The rest are for listening not demonstration.

Do you buy stuff you don't really like just becaused it is a 'DDD'
CD, HDCD, SACD?

No. I used to specifically look for DDDs of music I wanted when I first
got a CD player but I learned better. I now I buy with complete alacrity
anything with reasonable sound (including ADDs from 1955 onwards where
the performance shines - and I do have great performances back to the
1920s e.g. Bix Beiderbecke).

Life is too short to listen to less than excellent music. Sound matters
but music matters more. I have learned which reviewers to believe more
than the others and learned how to read their reviews to ensure a good
hit rate for buying music that, to me, is excellent.

Ever bought a disk just because you read some one had used it as a
listening test cd in a reveiw?

Yes when trying new genres (almost inevitably to my dissapointment)
but never in areas where I know the music.

Can you honestly say you just buy the music you want to listen
to, or has getting the best out of your system become an obsession?

Yes, I do just buy music to listen to and not to demonstrate the
system. I do put in some effort to set up the system (e.g. loudspeaker
positioning) but this is rather infrequent compared to the listening
time in between.

If Dark Side of the Moon was only in you collection on a chewed-up C-90,
would it ever get played?

I have and listen to a pair of 1978 C90s of the best performance I have
ever heard of Handel's Messiah (Walter Susskind at the Proms that year).
I listen to them more than my CD version of a different performance (can't
remember who). I should transfer them to CD before they deteriorate
any more!

--
John Phillips

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"none" ""gfraser\"@(none)" wrote in message
...
How has upgrading you system changed your CD buying habits? Do you
spend more money on demo disks? Do you buy stuff you don't really like
just becaused it is a 'DDD' CD, HDCD, SACD? Ever bought a disk just
because you read some one had used it as a listening test cd in a
reveiw? Can you honestly say you just buy the music you want to listen
to, or has getting the best out of your system become an obsession?
If Dark Side of the Moon was only in you collection on a chewed-up C-90,
would it ever get played?


I'd built up a collection of around 100 CDs (mainly classical, orchestral,
some opera & much piano) since CDs were first introduced, initially with a
single CD player, and then using a 5 CD player. However, my CD purchasing
rate has increased significantly since getting a Sony juke box style player.
It's the 400 capacity CDP-CX455 and I found it at about 1/2 original price
last September. It's technically more capable than the 300 capacity model
still in Sony's catalogue, and I've listened to music a lot more since
getting it, and my purchases have explored a wider field - so that can't be
bad. (Claims to be able to play MP3 encoded CDs, but the one sample I have
will only play on my Picot DVD player.)
I really do like the ease of playing any of my growing collection of CDs at
the press of a few buttons. Haven't saved any space as the original CD
cases & boxes are stored for the occasional reference.
I do have one or two test CDs which come in useful once in a while to make
sure that "right" source etc. is connected to the right speaker etc.
--
M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK
http://www.megalith.freeserve.co.uk/oddimage.htm

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Life is too short to listen to less than excellent music. Sound matters
but music matters more.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ultimately this has to be right. I can remember when I was "addicted" to
Hi-fi...............I built the room....I had the DNM /Krell set up
and set out to buy some speakers..............looking back I can remember
sitting there auditioning different speakers and literally sweating to the
music ..........craving for a sonic holy grail.
Eventually after spending a fortune on this system including lots of dosh on
interconnects etc. I settled down and listened to the music.

10 years later the krell has gone........replaced by something almost as
heavy but an av amp...........and the "hi- fi room has become a home cinema
..
Im less fussy about the ultimate sound than I used to
be........................but I think I might be enoying the music better !

Barry

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"none" ""gfraser\"@(none)" wrote in message
...
How has upgrading you system changed your CD buying habits?

Not at all - except for 1983, when I upgraded to a CD player! :-)

Do you
spend more money on demo disks?

I already have half a dozen (vinyl and CD), no need for more.

Do you buy stuff you don't really like
just becaused it is a 'DDD' CD, HDCD, SACD?

Nope.

Ever bought a disk just
because you read some one had used it as a listening test cd in a
reveiw?

Yes, Jazz at the Pawnshop on LP. Great music, superb recording, so I
bought it on CD as well.

Can you honestly say you just buy the music you want to listen
to, or has getting the best out of your system become an obsession?

Both.................. :-)

If Dark Side of the Moon was only in you collection on a chewed-up C-90,
would it ever get played?

No, because I don't have a cassette player. I do have four versions of
DSOTM, however! And I also have some poor quality recordings of great
music, which certainly do get played. Why else would I still have a
vinyl rig? :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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Can you honestly say you just buy the music you want to listen to

Yes

..., or has getting the best out of your system become an obsession?

Yes

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
Audio, music and health pages and interesting links.

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I bought one test LP a year or so ago
for the sole purpose of setting up my turntable. It has no music, and
I haven't played it since.

You should tape it for raference in case you might need it.

=== Andy Evans ===
Visit our Website:- http://www.artsandmedia.com
Audio, music and health pages and interesting links.

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In message , Tat Chan
writes
none wrote:

How has upgrading you system changed your CD buying habits?

Not at all really, though my system has probably reduced half of my
indie rock collection to near unlistenable (from an audiophile point of
view, of course).

But they sound tolerable to good once I convert them to 128-258kbps
mp3s played back through a PC and headphones ...

Do you spend more money on demo disks?

Don't have one in my collection

Do you buy stuff you don't really like just becaused it is a 'DDD'
CD, HDCD, SACD?

Well, I did buy the 30th anniversary Dark Side of the Moon CD/SACD
hybrid disc because it was cheap.

Ever bought a disk just because you read some one had used it as a
listening test cd in a reveiw?

No. Though I am tempted to get the Cowboy Junkies "Trinity Sessions" CD.

Can you honestly say you just buy the music you want to listen to,
or has getting the best out of your system become an obsession?

I buy the music I listen to. If the recording is top notch, I treat it
as a bonus.

Note that some of the most important pop/rock music (Beatles, Stones
and Springsteen) has really poor sound!


I've just bought a pair of decent headphones (Sennheiser HD580). It's
amazing how bad many recordings are when you hear them through
high-resolution transducers!

You'll be pleased to know that the Calrec Ambisonics 'Trinity Session'
still sounds OK though.
--
Chris Morriss

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On 12 Jan 2005 19:18:19 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

I bought one test LP a year or so ago
for the sole purpose of setting up my turntable. It has no music, and
I haven't played it since.

You should tape it for raference in case you might need it.

Or copy it to CD perhaps? I could let friends have cheap copies.

d
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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Chris Morriss wrote:

I've just bought a pair of decent headphones (Sennheiser HD580). It's
amazing how bad many recordings are when you hear them through
high-resolution transducers!

I thought the 580 has been phased out of production? I couldn't find a
reference to it the last time I looked. It seemed that the 580 was
replaced by the 59x range.

I listen to mp3s via a Sennheiser HD433 (cheap as chips!) through a
Creative Vibra 128 soundcard, and that combination sounds acceptable.

Might be looking at upgrading to a Sennheiser 580 or 59x for my real
stereo system at some point.

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none wrote:
How has upgrading you system changed your CD buying habits? Do you
spend more money on demo disks? Do you buy stuff you don't really like
just becaused it is a 'DDD' CD, HDCD, SACD?

No, I bought a CD very late on, about 1996, simply because I couldn't
get music on LP. And I've never gone for those direct cut master type
things.

Ever bought a disk just
because you read some one had used it as a listening test cd in a
reveiw? Can you honestly say you just buy the music you want to listen
to, or has getting the best out of your system become an obsession?

Well, I'd have to concede a minor-obsessive disorder :-). But that
doesn't extend to listening to music that makes the hifi 'shine' -
rarely do that.

If Dark Side of the Moon was only in you collection on a chewed-up C-90,
would it ever get played?

Ah no, not on the hifi. CDs and LPs only - not because they sound
better, part of the neurosis! I've got thousands of mp3s I play through
an old receiver and speakers connected to the computer. At the moment in
fact. Sounds marvellous.


Rob

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On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:18:12 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On 12 Jan 2005 19:18:19 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

I bought one test LP a year or so ago
for the sole purpose of setting up my turntable. It has no music, and
I haven't played it since.

You should tape it for raference in case you might need it.

Or copy it to CD perhaps? I could let friends have cheap copies.

Whaaaat? Why would *anyone* want to do that, when you could copy a
test *CD* with vastly better quality? Or did I miss a smiley?
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:38:36 +1100, Tat Chan
wrote:

Chris Morriss wrote:

I've just bought a pair of decent headphones (Sennheiser HD580). It's
amazing how bad many recordings are when you hear them through
high-resolution transducers!

I thought the 580 has been phased out of production? I couldn't find a
reference to it the last time I looked. It seemed that the 580 was
replaced by the 59x range.

Still available brand new on eBay. One of the great audio bargains at
$199. IMNVHO, the best headphones in the world, if you can't afford
electrostats.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:38:36 +1100, Tat Chan
wrote:

I thought the 580 has been phased out of production? I couldn't find a
reference to it the last time I looked. It seemed that the 580 was
replaced by the 59x range.


Still available brand new on eBay. One of the great audio bargains at
$199.

Buying internationaly via Ebay probably means using PayPal ...

do you know if there are huge differences between the 570 and 580? I can
get the 570 in Oz for AUD$200.


IMNVHO, the best headphones in the world, if you can't afford
electrostats.

Would I need a headphone amp to fully appreciate a headphone like the 580?

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 07:13:34 +0000 (UTC), Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:18:12 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On 12 Jan 2005 19:18:19 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

I bought one test LP a year or so ago
for the sole purpose of setting up my turntable. It has no music, and
I haven't played it since.

You should tape it for raference in case you might need it.

Or copy it to CD perhaps? I could let friends have cheap copies.

Whaaaat? Why would *anyone* want to do that, when you could copy a
test *CD* with vastly better quality? Or did I miss a smiley?

C'mon Stewart - wake up. I don't expect to need to use smileys on a UK
news group.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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none wrote:

Being a young dance-aholic, I realised when I set up my kit last week, I
have only 3 CDs in my collection with real instruments in them; the rest
are dance compilations, most recorded as mixes from vinyl - hardly the
best demo disks!
I've already ordered a stack of piano, string quartet and orchestral disks!

If you enjoy dance music, stick with.

If your hi-fi is dictating your choice of music,
something has gone woefully wrong.

BugBear

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"Tat Chan" wrote in message


Would I need a headphone amp to fully appreciate a headphone like the
580?

Depends what your source is. Its mostly a matter of having enough output
level.

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:18:12 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On 12 Jan 2005 19:18:19 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

I bought one test LP a year or so ago
for the sole purpose of setting up my turntable. It has no music, and
I haven't played it since.

You should tape it for raference in case you might need it.

Or copy it to CD perhaps? I could let friends have cheap copies.

Whaaaat? Why would *anyone* want to do that, when you could copy a
test *CD* with vastly better quality? Or did I miss a smiley?


Quite a unique product, methinks. A CD for the purpose of "setting
up" a turntable.

Don. Let us know what prison the BPI send you to. I will bring you
a file in a cake next time I visit the UK.

Iain

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:36:19 +0200, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:18:12 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On 12 Jan 2005 19:18:19 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

I bought one test LP a year or so ago
for the sole purpose of setting up my turntable. It has no music, and
I haven't played it since.

You should tape it for raference in case you might need it.

Or copy it to CD perhaps? I could let friends have cheap copies.

Whaaaat? Why would *anyone* want to do that, when you could copy a
test *CD* with vastly better quality? Or did I miss a smiley?


Quite a unique product, methinks. A CD for the purpose of "setting
up" a turntable.

Don. Let us know what prison the BPI send you to. I will bring you
a file in a cake next time I visit the UK.

Iain


A nice big currant cake please, and no glace cherries.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:18:43 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:36:19 +0200, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 20:18:12 GMT, (Don Pearce)
wrote:

On 12 Jan 2005 19:18:19 GMT, ohawker (Andy
Evans) wrote:

I bought one test LP a year or so ago
for the sole purpose of setting up my turntable. It has no music, and
I haven't played it since.

You should tape it for raference in case you might need it.

Or copy it to CD perhaps? I could let friends have cheap copies.

Whaaaat? Why would *anyone* want to do that, when you could copy a
test *CD* with vastly better quality? Or did I miss a smiley?


Quite a unique product, methinks. A CD for the purpose of "setting
up" a turntable.

Don. Let us know what prison the BPI send you to. I will bring you
a file in a cake next time I visit the UK.

Hmmmm, I wonder when the copyright runs out on my 1966 test discs?

And how would I copy a test LP?......................

If anyone wants a test CD, I'll be happy to supply, but my LPs are
irreplaceable!
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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In message , Tat Chan
writes
Chris Morriss wrote:

I've just bought a pair of decent headphones (Sennheiser HD580).
It's amazing how bad many recordings are when you hear them through
high-resolution transducers!

I thought the 580 has been phased out of production? I couldn't find a
reference to it the last time I looked. It seemed that the 580 was
replaced by the 59x range.

I listen to mp3s via a Sennheiser HD433 (cheap as chips!) through a
Creative Vibra 128 soundcard, and that combination sounds acceptable.

Might be looking at upgrading to a Sennheiser 580 or 59x for my real
stereo system at some point.

The 580, and all-but identical 600 are still in production. The line-up
of Sennheiser high-end headphones is confusing at the moment!

I compared the 580 to the 600 and I couldn't tell the difference, so I
wasn't about to pay another £70 for the carbon fibre bodies rather than
the cheaper plastic of the 580. I see Sennheiser now say the 580 and
600 are the same, apart from the (visually much nicer) CF body and metal
rear mesh of the 600.
--
Chris Morriss

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Arny Krueger wrote:
"Tat Chan" wrote in message



Would I need a headphone amp to fully appreciate a headphone like the
580?


Depends what your source is. Its mostly a matter of having enough output
level.



well, my source is a CD player ...

Would it be heresy if I was to at some point use the phones with an mp3
player?

Nah, maybe not, wearing a pair of 580s on public transport isn't a cool
look ...

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Chris Morriss wrote:

In message , Tat Chan
writes


I thought the 580 has been phased out of production? I couldn't find a
reference to it the last time I looked. It seemed that the 580 was
replaced by the 59x range.


The 580, and all-but identical 600 are still in production. The line-up
of Sennheiser high-end headphones is confusing at the moment!

I compared the 580 to the 600 and I couldn't tell the difference, so I
wasn't about to pay another £70 for the carbon fibre bodies rather than
the cheaper plastic of the 580. I see Sennheiser now say the 580 and
600 are the same, apart from the (visually much nicer) CF body and metal
rear mesh of the 600.

Thanks for the info. Will start looking at prices soon. Sennheisers are
overpriced in Oz. A friend got me my pair of 433s in Singapore for less
than half the local price.

Btw, do you use a dedicated headphone amp? IIRC, you have an Audiolab
amp (I could be mixing you up with someone else though!).

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 09:49:01 +1100, Tat Chan
wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Tat Chan" wrote in message


Would I need a headphone amp to fully appreciate a headphone like the
580?
Depends what your source is. Its mostly a matter of having enough output
level.

well, my source is a CD player ...

Would it be heresy if I was to at some point use the phones with an mp3
player?

Nah, maybe not, wearing a pair of 580s on public transport isn't a cool
look ...

Oh, I don't know - it will certainly attract attention. However, since
they are open-back noise-polluting 'phones, it might not attract
friendly attention.................
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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"Tat Chan" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Tat Chan" wrote in message



Would I need a headphone amp to fully appreciate a headphone like
the 580?


Depends what your source is. Its mostly a matter of having enough
output level.

well, my source is a CD player ...

A CD player that will drive a 600 ohm load could be effective with HD580s,
as their input impedance is high enough.

Would it be heresy if I was to at some point use the phones with an
mp3 player?

No, and 580s do well with MP3s. In contrast, I like to use MDR 7506s for
taking MP3s apart.

Nah, maybe not, wearing a pair of 580s on public transport isn't a cool
look ...

Let me suggest IEMs, including Futuresonics (Sennheiser) and Shure E-3s.