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binary January 14th 05 11:26 AM

track info on a CD
 
PC based CD players are all very eager to go out on the Internet to find
out information about the tracks on the CD that I want to play.

Isn't the same information on the CD itself already?

And is there a standard way of putting the metadata (track tags) on the
CD, so that I can put it there myself when I burn my own CD?

bin


James Perrett January 14th 05 12:45 PM

track info on a CD
 
On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 07:26:27 -0500, binary wrote:

PC based CD players are all very eager to go out on the Internet to find
out information about the tracks on the CD that I want to play.

Isn't the same information on the CD itself already?

And is there a standard way of putting the metadata (track tags) on the
CD, so that I can put it there myself when I burn my own CD?

bin


Some CD's have CD Text information on them but by no means all of them.
You can add CD Text to your own CD's with most CD burning software
nowadays - check for CD Text in the help file or manual for your
particular program.

Cheers.

James.

Arny Krueger January 14th 05 12:51 PM

track info on a CD
 
"binary" wrote in message

PC based CD players are all very eager to go out on the Internet to
find out information about the tracks on the CD that I want to play.

Isn't the same information on the CD itself already?


Nope, not per the RedBook standard. However, there is an extension called
"CD Text" that puts some of that information on the CD where the player can
read it.

And is there a standard way of putting the metadata (track tags) on
the CD, so that I can put it there myself when I burn my own CD?


Just get burning software (current Nero and EZ CD) that supports CD text and
provide the information at burning time.

I recently semi-unknowingly installed a car radio with CD text features, and
was a little surprised when one of my CDs scrolling relevant text on the
player's display while I was listening to it.



Dimitrios Tzortzakakis January 14th 05 01:55 PM

track info on a CD
 
We have something similar in Europe in radio (FM) I don't know if you have
it in USA.It's called RDS and in most FM stations you have text displayed on
your boombox or tuner.

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"binary" wrote in message

PC based CD players are all very eager to go out on the Internet to
find out information about the tracks on the CD that I want to play.

Isn't the same information on the CD itself already?


Nope, not per the RedBook standard. However, there is an extension called
"CD Text" that puts some of that information on the CD where the player

can
read it.

And is there a standard way of putting the metadata (track tags) on
the CD, so that I can put it there myself when I burn my own CD?


Just get burning software (current Nero and EZ CD) that supports CD text

and
provide the information at burning time.

I recently semi-unknowingly installed a car radio with CD text features,

and
was a little surprised when one of my CDs scrolling relevant text on the
player's display while I was listening to it.





Arny Krueger January 14th 05 02:00 PM

track info on a CD
 
"Dimitrios Tzortzakakis" wrote in message

We have something similar in Europe in radio (FM) I don't know if you
have it in USA.It's called RDS and in most FM stations you have text
displayed on your boombox or tuner.


I've heard word of such a service in the US, just not very widespread yet.



binary January 14th 05 04:11 PM

track info on a CD
 


Arny Krueger wrote:
"binary" wrote in message


PC based CD players are all very eager to go out on the Internet to
find out information about the tracks on the CD that I want to play.

Isn't the same information on the CD itself already?



Nope, not per the RedBook standard. However, there is an extension called
"CD Text" that puts some of that information on the CD where the player can
read it.


And is there a standard way of putting the metadata (track tags) on
the CD, so that I can put it there myself when I burn my own CD?



Just get burning software (current Nero and EZ CD) that supports CD text and
provide the information at burning time.


I have RecordNow 3.5 from Veritas (it came with my burner). The strange
thing is, it wants to go out to some database on the Internet, to
generate the text entries for me, but it doesn't let me enter my own text.


Arny Krueger January 14th 05 05:29 PM

track info on a CD
 
"binary" wrote in message

Arny Krueger wrote:
"binary" wrote in message


PC based CD players are all very eager to go out on the Internet to
find out information about the tracks on the CD that I want to play.

Isn't the same information on the CD itself already?



Nope, not per the RedBook standard. However, there is an extension
called "CD Text" that puts some of that information on the CD where
the player can read it.


And is there a standard way of putting the metadata (track tags) on
the CD, so that I can put it there myself when I burn my own CD?



Just get burning software (current Nero and EZ CD) that supports CD
text and provide the information at burning time.


I have RecordNow 3.5 from Veritas (it came with my burner). The
strange thing is, it wants to go out to some database on the
Internet, to generate the text entries for me, but it doesn't let me
enter my own text.


There internet database(s) are pretty much standard and called CDDB. There
are a number of online CDDB databases.

My recollection is that Nero was putting CD Text on my discs based on the
filenames of the .wav files, since they did not appear in any standard CDDB
database.



Dave Platt January 14th 05 06:58 PM

track info on a CD
 
In article ,
binary wrote:

PC based CD players are all very eager to go out on the Internet to find
out information about the tracks on the CD that I want to play.

Isn't the same information on the CD itself already?


Usually not.

It's possible to embed this sort of metadata in the subcode, but the
method for doing so didn't come along until years after the Red Book
CD standard was finalized - it's an extension rather than a part of
the basic standard.

Most manufacturers of CDs don't seem to bother including it on their
CDs.

And is there a standard way of putting the metadata (track tags) on the
CD, so that I can put it there myself when I burn my own CD?


Yes. Google for "CD-TEXT", or see

http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~aa571/cdtext.htm

for a good introduction.

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Mr. T January 15th 05 02:19 AM

track info on a CD
 

"James Perrett" wrote in message
...
Some CD's have CD Text information on them but by no means all of them.


In fact very few of them.

MrT.



Mr. T January 15th 05 02:23 AM

track info on a CD
 

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
My recollection is that Nero was putting CD Text on my discs based on the
filenames of the .wav files, since they did not appear in any standard

CDDB
database.


Yes, Nero will use the file name as the track name (and artist name as well,
depending on you using the proper naming convention)
Both can be readily edited before burning.

MrT.




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