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Old March 1st 05, 03:46 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio
Epetruk
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Default Help needed for vinyl to digital conversion

Dear all,

I've recently been trying to convert some of my vinyl collection to a
digital format. I did the following:

* Got a connector cable with 3.5mm stereo plugs at both ends;

* Plugged one plug into the phono jack of my hi-fi and the other into the
line-in jack of my computer;

* Ran Audacity (a sound recording and editing software program);

* Started playing the vinyl LP;

* Started recording on Audacity.

Unfortunately, the recorded sound played back on my PC is *extremely*
scratchy. Is there anything I can do to remove the scratchiness from the
sound so that it sounds more or less like what it's like playing the
original vinyl?

TIA,

--
Akin

aknak at aksoto dot idps dot co dot uk


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Old March 1st 05, 03:50 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio
Arny Krueger
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Default Help needed for vinyl to digital conversion

"Epetruk" wrote in message

Dear all,

I've recently been trying to convert some of my vinyl collection to a
digital format. I did the following:

* Got a connector cable with 3.5mm stereo plugs at both ends;

* Plugged one plug into the phono jack of my hi-fi and the other into
the line-in jack of my computer;


Here's where you made your mistake. The phono input of your hi-fi includes
what is known as a RIAA equalizer. It's basically a high end cutoff filter.
Try recording from the tape outs if it has them; the headphone out if it
doesn't. If neither is feasible get a separate RIAA preamp - here is a web
page with some alternatives:

http://www.kabusa.com/frameset.htm?index.htm


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Old March 1st 05, 04:26 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio
Epetruk
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Default Help needed for vinyl to digital conversion

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Epetruk" wrote in message

Dear all,

I've recently been trying to convert some of my vinyl collection to a
digital format. I did the following:

* Got a connector cable with 3.5mm stereo plugs at both ends;

* Plugged one plug into the phono jack of my hi-fi and the other into
the line-in jack of my computer;


Here's where you made your mistake. The phono input of your hi-fi
includes what is known as a RIAA equalizer. It's basically a high end
cutoff filter. Try recording from the tape outs if it has them; the
headphone out if it doesn't. If neither is feasible get a separate
RIAA preamp - here is a web page with some alternatives:


Sorry Arny and everyone else who may be reading - I actually did plug the
plug into the *headphone jack* (I couldn't find any other jack that would
output sound that I could plug into). Unfortunately, as I have already
recounted, plugging into the headphone jack doesn't solve the problem, and I
don't think the hi-fi has a tape out.

Any other ideas?


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Old March 1st 05, 04:38 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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Default Help needed for vinyl to digital conversion

On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 17:26:20 -0000, "Epetruk"
wrote:

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Epetruk" wrote in message

Dear all,

I've recently been trying to convert some of my vinyl collection to a
digital format. I did the following:

* Got a connector cable with 3.5mm stereo plugs at both ends;

* Plugged one plug into the phono jack of my hi-fi and the other into
the line-in jack of my computer;


Here's where you made your mistake. The phono input of your hi-fi
includes what is known as a RIAA equalizer. It's basically a high end
cutoff filter. Try recording from the tape outs if it has them; the
headphone out if it doesn't. If neither is feasible get a separate
RIAA preamp - here is a web page with some alternatives:


Sorry Arny and everyone else who may be reading - I actually did plug the
plug into the *headphone jack* (I couldn't find any other jack that would
output sound that I could plug into). Unfortunately, as I have already
recounted, plugging into the headphone jack doesn't solve the problem, and I
don't think the hi-fi has a tape out.

Any other ideas?


Can you post a short mp3 somewhere - we can diagnose a lot easier that
way.

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com
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Old March 1st 05, 04:43 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio
Jim Gregory
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Default Help needed for vinyl to digital conversion

If the Tone controls are actively affecting your h/p jack (as the only
line-level output) as well as your monitor l/ss, the hi-fi should be deemed
to give a "flat" response at their *mid* or 0 position, so park them there -
then employ your Audacity digital eq and filters if you feel you have to.
The vinyl records should be cleaned of dust and free of static for this
archiving work.


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Old March 1st 05, 06:08 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio
SteveB
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Default Help needed for vinyl to digital conversion

It may be overloading the sound card line input and clipping the signal.
Reduce the recording control's Line In mixer level (not the playback one)
till it cleans up, then reduce it a bit more to give some headroom.


"Epetruk" wrote in message
...
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Epetruk" wrote in message

Dear all,

I've recently been trying to convert some of my vinyl collection to a
digital format. I did the following:

* Got a connector cable with 3.5mm stereo plugs at both ends;

* Plugged one plug into the phono jack of my hi-fi and the other into
the line-in jack of my computer;


Here's where you made your mistake. The phono input of your hi-fi
includes what is known as a RIAA equalizer. It's basically a high end
cutoff filter. Try recording from the tape outs if it has them; the
headphone out if it doesn't. If neither is feasible get a separate
RIAA preamp - here is a web page with some alternatives:


Sorry Arny and everyone else who may be reading - I actually did plug the
plug into the *headphone jack* (I couldn't find any other jack that would
output sound that I could plug into). Unfortunately, as I have already
recounted, plugging into the headphone jack doesn't solve the problem, and
I
don't think the hi-fi has a tape out.

Any other ideas?




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Old March 1st 05, 07:20 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio
Epetruk
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Default Help needed for vinyl to digital conversion

Steve,

Thanks a lot! Your suggestion worked just fine.

Is there a way that I can hear the recording while it's in progress? All I
can see is a waveform indicating that the recording is in progress, but it
would be nice to hear it as well so that I know that everything is going
well (i.e. no skipping).

Cheers,

--
Akin

aknak at aksoto dot idps dot co dot uk

SteveB wrote:
It may be overloading the sound card line input and clipping the
signal. Reduce the recording control's Line In mixer level (not the
playback one) till it cleans up, then reduce it a bit more to give
some headroom.


"Epetruk" wrote in message
...
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Epetruk" wrote in message

Dear all,

I've recently been trying to convert some of my vinyl collection
to a digital format. I did the following:

* Got a connector cable with 3.5mm stereo plugs at both ends;

* Plugged one plug into the phono jack of my hi-fi and the other
into the line-in jack of my computer;

Here's where you made your mistake. The phono input of your hi-fi
includes what is known as a RIAA equalizer. It's basically a high
end cutoff filter. Try recording from the tape outs if it has them;
the headphone out if it doesn't. If neither is feasible get a
separate RIAA preamp - here is a web page with some alternatives:


Sorry Arny and everyone else who may be reading - I actually did
plug the plug into the *headphone jack* (I couldn't find any other
jack that would output sound that I could plug into). Unfortunately,
as I have already recounted, plugging into the headphone jack
doesn't solve the problem, and I
don't think the hi-fi has a tape out.

Any other ideas?





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Old March 1st 05, 09:49 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio
Codifus
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Default Help needed for vinyl to digital conversion

Epetruk wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote:

"Epetruk" wrote in message


Dear all,

I've recently been trying to convert some of my vinyl collection to a
digital format. I did the following:

* Got a connector cable with 3.5mm stereo plugs at both ends;

* Plugged one plug into the phono jack of my hi-fi and the other into
the line-in jack of my computer;


Here's where you made your mistake. The phono input of your hi-fi
includes what is known as a RIAA equalizer. It's basically a high end
cutoff filter. Try recording from the tape outs if it has them; the
headphone out if it doesn't. If neither is feasible get a separate
RIAA preamp - here is a web page with some alternatives:



Sorry Arny and everyone else who may be reading - I actually did plug the
plug into the *headphone jack* (I couldn't find any other jack that would
output sound that I could plug into). Unfortunately, as I have already
recounted, plugging into the headphone jack doesn't solve the problem, and I
don't think the hi-fi has a tape out.

Any other ideas?


Ideally, the connector cable should be 3.5mm on one end and a pair of
stereo RCA phonoplugs on the other end. Plug those RCA phono jacks into
your HIFI, into the TAPE REC or TAPE OUT or other similarly named
connections on the back of the receiver. You will get the cleanest
signal that way because it will bypass all preamplification such as the
tone controls, volume etc.

You can pick up that cable at Radio Shack, like this one;

http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...t%5Fid=42-2550


HTH

CD
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Old March 1st 05, 10:25 PM posted to rec.audio.misc,uk.rec.audio
Dave
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Default Help needed for vinyl to digital conversion

You should be able to hear it through the pc speakers - have you got the
correct boxes ticked and volume set in your volume control panel.

DaveB
UK


"Epetruk" wrote in message
...
Steve,

Thanks a lot! Your suggestion worked just fine.

Is there a way that I can hear the recording while it's in progress? All I
can see is a waveform indicating that the recording is in progress, but it
would be nice to hear it as well so that I know that everything is going
well (i.e. no skipping).

Cheers,

--
Akin

aknak at aksoto dot idps dot co dot uk

SteveB wrote:
It may be overloading the sound card line input and clipping the
signal. Reduce the recording control's Line In mixer level (not the
playback one) till it cleans up, then reduce it a bit more to give
some headroom.


"Epetruk" wrote in message
...
Arny Krueger wrote:
"Epetruk" wrote in message

Dear all,

I've recently been trying to convert some of my vinyl collection
to a digital format. I did the following:

* Got a connector cable with 3.5mm stereo plugs at both ends;

* Plugged one plug into the phono jack of my hi-fi and the other
into the line-in jack of my computer;

Here's where you made your mistake. The phono input of your hi-fi
includes what is known as a RIAA equalizer. It's basically a high
end cutoff filter. Try recording from the tape outs if it has them;
the headphone out if it doesn't. If neither is feasible get a
separate RIAA preamp - here is a web page with some alternatives:

Sorry Arny and everyone else who may be reading - I actually did
plug the plug into the *headphone jack* (I couldn't find any other
jack that would output sound that I could plug into). Unfortunately,
as I have already recounted, plugging into the headphone jack
doesn't solve the problem, and I
don't think the hi-fi has a tape out.

Any other ideas?







 




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