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Bruce March 5th 05 08:18 AM

(Un)sound problem
 
I need some advice and opinion, please.

I have decided to run my TV sound through my KEF speakers via a Pioneer
amplifier. I've used standard RCA phono cables from the Line Out (L &
R) on the TV into the (now redundant) tapedeck inputs on the amp. Note
that there is no AUX input on the amplifier.

The sound quality is poor - muffled and muted, compared with say, the
sound quality from the CD or FM radio. What am I doing wrong, anybody?


tony sayer March 5th 05 08:38 AM

(Un)sound problem
 
In article . com, Bruce
writes
I need some advice and opinion, please.

I have decided to run my TV sound through my KEF speakers via a Pioneer
amplifier. I've used standard RCA phono cables from the Line Out (L &
R) on the TV into the (now redundant) tapedeck inputs on the amp. Note
that there is no AUX input on the amplifier.

The sound quality is poor - muffled and muted, compared with say, the
sound quality from the CD or FM radio. What am I doing wrong, anybody?


Are you using analogue TV with NICAM or DTV ?....
--
Tony Sayer


Dave Plowman (News) March 5th 05 10:39 AM

(Un)sound problem
 
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
The sound quality is poor - muffled and muted, compared with say, the
sound quality from the CD or FM radio. What am I doing wrong, anybody?


Are you using analogue TV with NICAM or DTV ?....


Makes no difference in the 'muffled or muted' way. While there are
differences they are subtle ones - apart from analogue being mono only.

--
*I like cats, too. Let's exchange recipes.

Dave Plowman London SW
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Dave Plowman (News) March 5th 05 10:42 AM

(Un)sound problem
 
In article . com,
Bruce wrote:
The sound quality is poor - muffled and muted, compared with say, the
sound quality from the CD or FM radio. What am I doing wrong, anybody?


I've come across some TVs where the phono outputs are after the tone and
volume controls on the set. Try altering these with the set speakers muted?

--
*If a pig loses its voice, is it disgruntled? *

Dave Plowman London SW
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Bruce March 5th 05 12:31 PM

(Un)sound problem
 
Hi Tony,

The TV is a flat screen LCDTV with Nicam stereo speakers with
integrated digital circuitry.

The reason why I want to run the sound through the hifi system is that
the TV speakers are tinny and harsh, presumably because they are so
small. The sound through the KEFs, even though it's muffled, tends to
give a bass tinge which counteracts the treble sound of the TV
speakers.


tony sayer March 5th 05 12:33 PM

(Un)sound problem
 
In article , Dave Plowman (News)
writes
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
The sound quality is poor - muffled and muted, compared with say, the
sound quality from the CD or FM radio. What am I doing wrong, anybody?


Are you using analogue TV with NICAM or DTV ?....


Makes no difference in the 'muffled or muted' way. While there are
differences they are subtle ones - apart from analogue being mono only.

No it shouldn't make that much difference but It would be interesting to
find out that and then see where its going wrong as TV sound is quite
good when the broadcasters send it, that is.

As I'm certain you'd know Dave;))...
--
Tony Sayer


Triffid March 5th 05 04:42 PM

(Un)sound problem
 
Bruce wiffled:
Hi Tony,

The TV is a flat screen LCDTV with Nicam stereo speakers with
integrated digital circuitry.

The reason why I want to run the sound through the hifi system is that
the TV speakers are tinny and harsh, presumably because they are so
small. The sound through the KEFs, even though it's muffled, tends to
give a bass tinge which counteracts the treble sound of the TV
speakers.


Can you take a feed off a scart socket, and if so is it different?
Alternatively, try taking it to the CD input in case its a cruddy switch or
something. Or try connecting to the Play instead of Rec i/p's, in case they
don't mean what you think (I can never work that one out!). If you've got
satellite, use that instead. HTH

--
Despite appearances, it is still legal to put sugar on cornflakes.



Bruce March 6th 05 06:13 AM

(Un)sound problem
 
Hello Dave,

At the risk of you thinking me totally thick (and if you do, that's OK
by me) what do you mean exactly by " where the phono outputs are after
the tone and volume controls on the set."? I can use the hifi speakers
only, the TV speakers only, or a combination of both. (See my reply to
Tony).


Dave Plowman (News) March 6th 05 10:40 AM

(Un)sound problem
 
In article .com,
Bruce wrote:
At the risk of you thinking me totally thick (and if you do, that's OK
by me) what do you mean exactly by " where the phono outputs are after
the tone and volume controls on the set."? I can use the hifi speakers
only, the TV speakers only, or a combination of both. (See my reply to
Tony).


I've come across some sets where the remote control alters the volume,
balance and 'tone' of the phonos as well as the set's own speakers. Early
Philips Matchline was one. I doubt it's common, though, as later Philips
models don't do this.

Have you tried using a different input on the amp - say CD? This would
help to prove where the fault is.

--
*Hang in there, retirement is only thirty years away! *

Dave Plowman London SW
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tony sayer March 6th 05 12:24 PM

(Un)sound problem
 
In article .com,
Bruce writes
Hello Dave,

At the risk of you thinking me totally thick (and if you do, that's OK
by me) what do you mean exactly by " where the phono outputs are after
the tone and volume controls on the set."? I can use the hifi speakers
only, the TV speakers only, or a combination of both. (See my reply to
Tony).


TV sound in general is quite good, and you I wouldn't be that
dissatisfied with it, after all on some programs I switch on the
Audiolabs and ELS63's and they show up what's good and bad. Sometimes
the sound on DTV isn't quite the same as NICAM, but this is a bit of nit
picking. Dave is quite correct in that some sets can have the audio
outputs routed through onboard tone controls and suchlike. I don't know
the TV you have but as long as your taking the TV outputs via Phono or
other similar sockets or on SCART's and most every TV has one of they
and you are taking this to a Line or CD or AUX input then its quite
difficult to see what or where the problem should be, unless you somehow
have them connected to a DISC or as separate to a "PHONO" meaning a
gramophone disc input where strange sounds will result!..

It might be interesting to take to audio direct of a Freeview box if you
have one and some these days have audio outputs on, or a DVD player or a
digibox if you have one and see what that shows up.

All in all worth doing as the implementation of a better audio replay
system does improve the enjoyment of most all TV programmes.....
--
Tony Sayer



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