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8000PX SM needed ASAP.


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WTD:Audiolab 8000PX service manual
 

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When you find an online/offline source of they then let us know!......
--
Tony Sayer

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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , Nath
writes
8000PX SM needed ASAP.


ta



When you find an online/offline source of they then let us know!......
--
Tony Sayer

Got one possible source but he's "restricted" this to me..

"I'll order the PX manual if you want to split the costs, though only on two
commitments from yourself:

1. I get the original, and you get a high quality bound copy (just about
identical to the original)
2. You must promise implicitly not to copy and sell it any further.
Repairing Audiolabs is my hobby and I normally decline EVERY request for
copies of the service literature, I'm only willing to make an exception in
this case because I sold you the amp in the first place, albeit a very long
time ago now!"

Why are some people in this hobby just interested in money, if I had service
manuals I would upload to servers at no cost. And I have in the past.

WTD:Audiolab 8000PX service manual
 

In article , Nath
wrote:

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...

When you find an online/offline source of they then let us know!......
-- Tony Sayer

Got one possible source but he's "restricted" this to me..

"I'll order the PX manual if you want to split the costs, though only on
two commitments from yourself:

1. I get the original, and you get a high quality bound copy (just about
identical to the original) 2. You must promise implicitly not to copy
and sell it any further.

I think he may mean "explicitly"...

If he does not own the copyright on the manual, then TBH any restrictions
he places on you may have no real legal basis. Indeed, it may be a
technical breach of copyright on his part to make a copy for you. Given
these points I doubt he'd get far in a court if he tried to take action
against you for making further copies. :-)

Repairing Audiolabs is my hobby and I normally decline EVERY request for
copies of the service literature, I'm only willing to make an exception
in this case because I sold you the amp in the first place, albeit a
very long time ago now!"

Why are some people in this hobby just interested in money, if I had
service manuals I would upload to servers at no cost. And I have in the
past.

I have also made copies of some manuals, etc, available to people in the
past. Although I (sadly) have no AudioLab info, and am referring to items
which ceased manufacture some years ago.

I must confess I am puzzled by the attitudes of some manufacturers to
making service manuals and diagrams available. Mumble-mumble years ago it
was standard practice to provide these with the purchase of the item to
which they referred. The assumption was that the purchaser was entitled to
them for reference purposes, and would wish to have the information about
what they had bought.

Later on, the info could often be purchased at a price that reasonably
covered the cost of making the info available. Hence although most users
would not have it, anyone with an interest could get a copy.

Nowdays, the attitude of many makers seems to be that circuitry and service
info are almost to be regarded as 'top secret'. To me, this shows a lack of
confidence in both their purchasers, and in the quality of their designs.

FWIW I have particularly been saddened by the changes in this at Quad over
recent years. They have gone from making such info easily available to it
being almost impossible to obtain. Indeed, I have heard comments [1] that
some of the info isn't even available easily to their own UK service
people, or is not clearly and extensively documented as in the past!

[1] Which I can't confirm. All I can confirm is that getting a service
manual or full diagrams for more recent items is between 'difficult' and
'impossible'. I still do not have a service manual or diagrams on the Quad
67, despite it being long out of manufacture.

Slainte,

Jim

--
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html
Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
In article , Nath
wrote:

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...

When you find an online/offline source of they then let us know!......
-- Tony Sayer

Got one possible source but he's "restricted" this to me..

"I'll order the PX manual if you want to split the costs, though only on
two commitments from yourself:

1. I get the original, and you get a high quality bound copy (just about
identical to the original) 2. You must promise implicitly not to copy
and sell it any further.

I think he may mean "explicitly"...

If he does not own the copyright on the manual, then TBH any restrictions
he places on you may have no real legal basis. Indeed, it may be a
technical breach of copyright on his part to make a copy for you. Given
these points I doubt he'd get far in a court if he tried to take action
against you for making further copies. :-)

Repairing Audiolabs is my hobby and I normally decline EVERY request for
copies of the service literature, I'm only willing to make an exception
in this case because I sold you the amp in the first place, albeit a
very long time ago now!"

Why are some people in this hobby just interested in money, if I had
service manuals I would upload to servers at no cost. And I have in the
past.

I have also made copies of some manuals, etc, available to people in the
past. Although I (sadly) have no AudioLab info, and am referring to items
which ceased manufacture some years ago.

I must confess I am puzzled by the attitudes of some manufacturers to
making service manuals and diagrams available. Mumble-mumble years ago it
was standard practice to provide these with the purchase of the item to
which they referred. The assumption was that the purchaser was entitled to
them for reference purposes, and would wish to have the information about
what they had bought.

Later on, the info could often be purchased at a price that reasonably
covered the cost of making the info available. Hence although most users
would not have it, anyone with an interest could get a copy.

Nowdays, the attitude of many makers seems to be that circuitry and
service
info are almost to be regarded as 'top secret'. To me, this shows a lack
of
confidence in both their purchasers, and in the quality of their designs.

FWIW I have particularly been saddened by the changes in this at Quad over
recent years. They have gone from making such info easily available to it
being almost impossible to obtain. Indeed, I have heard comments [1] that
some of the info isn't even available easily to their own UK service
people, or is not clearly and extensively documented as in the past!

[1] Which I can't confirm. All I can confirm is that getting a service
manual or full diagrams for more recent items is between 'difficult' and
'impossible'. I still do not have a service manual or diagrams on the Quad
67, despite it being long out of manufacture.

Slainte,

Jim


The answer to this problem is to only buy equipment where the
info is readily available. They would soon fall into line.

Regards

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Nath wrote:
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Nath
writes
8000PX SM needed ASAP.


ta



When you find an online/offline source of they then let us
know!...... --
Tony Sayer

Got one possible source but he's "restricted" this to me..

"I'll order the PX manual if you want to split the costs, though only
on two commitments from yourself:

1. I get the original, and you get a high quality bound copy (just
about identical to the original)
2. You must promise implicitly not to copy and sell it any further.
Repairing Audiolabs is my hobby and I normally decline EVERY request
for copies of the service literature, I'm only willing to make an
exception in this case because I sold you the amp in the first place,
albeit a very long time ago now!"

Why are some people in this hobby just interested in money, if I had
service manuals I would upload to servers at no cost. And I have in
the past.

Hi Nath,
Would you happen to know how to set the preset in a 8000P?, I recently had
to replace the predrivers in mine.

TIA
Craig

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Hi Nath,
Would you happen to know how to set the preset in a 8000P?, I recently had
to replace the predrivers in mine.

TIA
Craig


No sorry I don't know, but I know someone who might. Do you want me to ask
him?

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In article , Terry
wrote:

"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
...
[snip]

Nowdays, the attitude of many makers seems to be that circuitry and
service info are almost to be regarded as 'top secret'. To me, this
shows a lack of confidence in both their purchasers, and in the
quality of their designs.
[snip]

The answer to this problem is to only buy equipment where the info is
readily available. They would soon fall into line.

Alas, I fear that would only be the case if most people followed that
approach. In practice, though, I suspect that the vast majority of people
do not even think of asking for a service manual or even a diagram.

Also, it can be difficult if you have decided that the equipment you prefer
is from makers who do not provide the info.

Slainte,

Jim

--
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html
Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html

WTD:Audiolab 8000PX service manual
 

The answer to this problem is to only buy equipment where the
info is readily available. They would soon fall into line.

Regards



Just got a reply from IAG...

"Thankyou for contacting the helpdesk.

Unfortunatly we cannot supply you with the service manuals or circuit
diagrams as this is against our company policy."

WTD:Audiolab 8000PX service manual
 

In article , Nath
wrote:
The answer to this problem is to only buy equipment where the info is
readily available. They would soon fall into line.

Regards



Just got a reply from IAG...

"Thankyou for contacting the helpdesk.

Unfortunatly we cannot supply you with the service manuals or circuit
diagrams as this is against our company policy."

Ask them if it is also company policy to explain the reasons for their
company policy. :-)

Interesting use of "cannot" as well...

Slainte,

Jim

--
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html
Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html

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Ask them if it is also company policy to explain the reasons for their
company policy. :-)

Interesting use of "cannot" as well...

Slainte,

Jim

Perhaps I'll email back..

"It is my policy since you're ****ing ****s that I'll break into your
offices and steal a service manual"

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In article , Nath
writes

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Nath
writes
8000PX SM needed ASAP.


ta



When you find an online/offline source of they then let us know!......
--
Tony Sayer

Got one possible source but he's "restricted" this to me..

"I'll order the PX manual if you want to split the costs, though only on two
commitments from yourself:

1. I get the original, and you get a high quality bound copy (just about
identical to the original)
2. You must promise implicitly not to copy and sell it any further.
Repairing Audiolabs is my hobby and I normally decline EVERY request for
copies of the service literature, I'm only willing to make an exception in
this case because I sold you the amp in the first place, albeit a very long
time ago now!"

Why are some people in this hobby just interested in money, if I had service
manuals I would upload to servers at no cost. And I have in the past.



Could you drop me an e-mail when you get a moment with a valid addy
please:))

cheers
--
Tony Sayer

WTD:Audiolab 8000PX service manual
 

Nath wrote:
Hi Nath,
Would you happen to know how to set the preset in a 8000P?, I
recently had to replace the predrivers in mine.

TIA
Craig


No sorry I don't know, but I know someone who might. Do you want me
to ask him?

Yes please, that would be very good of you.

Thanks
Craig

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"Nath" wrote in message
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8000PX SM needed ASAP.


ta

Amp has been fixed, just dry joints around the four transistors. The amp
made a funny noise, then both channels were intermittent or silent. Now ok
:-)