"BobPit" wrote in message
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I have a very difficult situation here.

I have a friend that has a bar outdoors, on the seashore. ight next to it
there are houses. After 12:00 at night he has to turn down the volume in
order not to anoy the neighbours. But then most of the customers will
leave
because there is no more fun.

I have looked up and found that he can raise some insulating walls. But
this will destroy the scenery.

Is there a way to setup the speakers, maybe buy special speakers that will
create a descent sound only at the area of the bar, but creating no noise
10-20 meters away, where the houses are?


Hmm. Maybe he should close at 1:00 and try selling sandwiches for lunch.

jb

Mark wrote:
free cover and free drinks for the neighbors may work.

Every night?! I think the novelty would rapidly wear off. Ever hear of a
phenomenon called "children"?

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On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 11:39:13 +0300, "BobPit" wrote:

I have a very difficult situation here.

I have a friend that has a bar outdoors, on the seashore. ight next to it
there are houses. After 12:00 at night he has to turn down the volume in
order not to anoy the neighbours. But then most of the customers will leave
because there is no more fun.

I have looked up and found that he can raise some insulating walls. But
this will destroy the scenery.

Is there a way to setup the speakers, maybe buy special speakers that will
create a descent sound only at the area of the bar, but creating no noise
10-20 meters away, where the houses are?

The neighbours don't want it quieter after 12.00, they want it OFF!.
And rightly so. I'm surprised he's allowed to be a nuisance at other
times.

Smaller speakers, closer to the listener will go some way towards a
solution. But if the customers want a disco experience with thudding
bass, this won't do.

If it's any consolation, I walk out of any establishment where the
music is too loud for conversation. And have done all my life - it's
not an old man thing :-)

It is not a disco, no dancing. You can talk easily. But the music has to
be loud enough to keep the customers. Otherwise they leave.

Bob

On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 16:52:15 +0300, "BobPit" wrote:

It is not a disco, no dancing. You can talk easily. But the music has to
be loud enough to keep the customers. Otherwise they leave.

Amazing! My favourite time at my watering-hole is after hours when
the barman can be persuaded to turn off the music. Sometimes he'll
even turn off the fans, if no anti-social ******* is smoking. The
silence is magic!

Mark Tranchant wrote:

Mark wrote:

free cover and free drinks for the neighbors may work.


Every night?! I think the novelty would rapidly wear off. Ever hear of a
phenomenon called "children"?


Children don't deserve the quietness for sleep based on the noise they
make at other times. My parents had parties in full effect while we as
kids slept.

Anyway, a restless start to kiddie nightime means a sleepy start to
daytime. Which for party going adults trying to get over the night
before means perfect peace in the morning. Compatibility ensured!

OK, I'm missing out requirements for school timekeeping in the above.
Shouldn't kids start school later. Say 5pm? :-)

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"Owain" wrote in message
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Adrian C wrote:
Shouldn't kids start school later. Say 5pm? :-)

No, they should start school earlier - about three and a half.

Boarding school that is.

Owain


Months not years, I assume?
;-)
Paul

On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 11:39:13 +0300, BobPit wrote:

I have a friend that has a bar outdoors, on the seashore. ight next to it
there are houses. After 12:00 at night he has to turn down the volume in
order not to anoy the neighbours. But then most of the customers will leave
because there is no more fun.

A good solution would be to get the guitarists to turn their amps down
below 11 and just use the PA for vocals and a little on the kick/snare
for definition. This setup has worked for me many a time in a beer garden
type situation.

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i agree with another poster: the way to reduce the overall sound level
is to have small loudspekers (with poor bass response) and to put them
as close as possible to the audience so they don't need to be loud.

Is this in the UK? If this is a commercial bar then surely the terms
of his licence must take account of the houses nearby. If the sound is
audible in the houses and his licence says it must not be then that's a
matter for the council environmental health dept.


Robert

Robert wrote:

i agree with another poster: the way to reduce the overall sound level
is to have small loudspekers (with poor bass response) and to put them
as close as possible to the audience so they don't need to be loud.

This is something that jukebox manufacturers figured out in the 1950s,
and it works well. But it is considered very retro today. Then again,
maybe that's in.
--scott

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