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Take a look at e-Bay item # 4763489175

This is a Decca cut pressing for Parlophone
of The Beatles "Please Please Me"

It sold for £621.01
I can't imagine any CD ever commanding this
kind of interest or money.

Iain

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Hmm.

In 100 years, will a few people still use turntables actively? Or will they
just be antiques? I don't know. I kinda suspect they will just be antiques.

What about CDs? Will many people still be able to play them, or read them on
computers?

Maybe in 100 years' time, CDs will seem even more antiquated than old vinyl
seems now. In that case, a CD of a famous band, with its original packing,
might be worth a significant amount.


Martin
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:03:05 +0300, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:

Take a look at e-Bay item # 4763489175

This is a Decca cut pressing for Parlophone
of The Beatles "Please Please Me"

It sold for £621.01
I can't imagine any CD ever commanding this
kind of interest or money.

Dinosaur crap commands similar prices, for similar reasons. It's
definitely crap, but they don't make it any more, so somebody will
always collect it.

Imagine what you'd have to pay for a first edition of Paul Clifford,
by Baron Bulwer-Lytton! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:03:05 +0300, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:

Take a look at e-Bay item # 4763489175

This is a Decca cut pressing for Parlophone
of The Beatles "Please Please Me"

It sold for £621.01
I can't imagine any CD ever commanding this
kind of interest or money.

Dinosaur crap commands similar prices, for similar reasons. It's
definitely crap, but they don't make it any more, so somebody will
always collect it.

Imagine what you'd have to pay for a first edition of Paul Clifford,
by Baron Bulwer-Lytton! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Searched 'Dinosaur Droppings' on e-Bay, see # 6558101884, it's presently
Beatles 1 Dinosaur Crap 0
:-)

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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:48:48 +0100, Owain
wrote:

Fleetie wrote:
In 100 years, will a few people still use turntables actively? Or will they
just be antiques? I don't know. I kinda suspect they will just be antiques.
What about CDs? Will many people still be able to play them, or read them on
computers?

That's the question. In 100 or even 1000 years time, LPs (if they
haven't physically disintegrated) will be playable. We know that CDs
don't last forever, even if the format stays in use.

Do we? Who told you that? Are you even aware that the dreaded 'brown
rot' affected *one* batch from *one* factory in the mid '80s?

Perhaps CDs will ebcome as rare as leaded petrol.

Unlikely. And of course, even if that were true, they can be copied
with *zero* generation loss to any other format you like. I suspect
that the .wav file will be an available option for any reasonably
foreseeable future, regardless of the platform.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:48:48 +0100, Owain wrote:


Fleetie wrote:
In 100 years, will a few people still use turntables actively? Or will they
just be antiques? I don't know. I kinda suspect they will just be antiques.
What about CDs? Will many people still be able to play them, or read them on
computers?

That's the question. In 100 or even 1000 years time, LPs (if they
haven't physically disintegrated) will be playable. We know that CDs

Do you have a citation for that? Perhaps some examples of 100-1000 year
vinyl records?

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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Dinosaur crap commands similar prices, for similar reasons. It's
definitely crap, but they don't make it any more, so somebody will
always collect it.

Imagine what you'd have to pay for a first edition of Paul Clifford,
by Baron Bulwer-Lytton! :-)

I've always enjoyed the tirades of abuse hurled at you, now I realise
that you're worth every one of them.

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:03:05 +0300, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:

Take a look at e-Bay item # 4763489175

This is a Decca cut pressing for Parlophone
of The Beatles "Please Please Me"

It sold for £621.01
I can't imagine any CD ever commanding this
kind of interest or money.

Dinosaur crap commands similar prices, for similar
reasons. It's
definitely crap, but they don't make it any more, so
somebody will
always collect it.

Perhaps you failed to understand the significance
of what was being offered. The positive side of this
is that your absence from the bidders' list helped to
keep the final price down to a very realistic £621.01
:-)))

Iain

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On 2005-09-12, Iain M Churches wrote:

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:03:05 +0300, "Iain M Churches"
wrote:

Take a look at e-Bay item # 4763489175

This is a Decca cut pressing for Parlophone
of The Beatles "Please Please Me"

It sold for £621.01
I can't imagine any CD ever commanding this
kind of interest or money.

Dinosaur crap commands similar prices, for similar
reasons. It's
definitely crap, but they don't make it any more, so
somebody will
always collect it.

Perhaps you failed to understand the significance
of what was being offered. ...

From reading his reply I suspect Stewart knows the significance but does
not share your view of its value (or that of the buyer). Indeed I am
guessing at its significance since you indicated no more than someone's
view of an acceptable purchase price on E-Bay.

Regrettably I share what I suspect to be Stewart's view of its value.
That sum would buy about 50 recordings each of equal musical value to
what is on the vinyl.

William Morris once said "Have nothing in your houses which you do not
know to be useful or believe to be beautiful." I suspect the buyer will
not actually be playing his purchase so I cannot see its utility when
compared to more practical media such as CD. Others may well find the
item beautiful for its significance rather than its musical content and
that's fine. But many will not. I'm sure you knew that when you posted
the article and expected reactions accordingly.

--
John Phillips

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In article , Owain
wrote:
Fleetie wrote:
In 100 years, will a few people still use turntables actively? Or will
they just be antiques? I don't know. I kinda suspect they will just be
antiques. What about CDs? Will many people still be able to play them,
or read them on computers?

That's the question. In 100 or even 1000 years time, LPs (if they
haven't physically disintegrated) will be playable.

I am less than confident that you are correct. :-)

Vinyl is a 'glass' and as such, does flow and deform slowly. There are
also organisms that break it down. Also affected by some forms of pollution
and sunlight. Playing also tends to wear the surface. Hence if you were to
keep an LP in free fall away from light and never play it, you might hope
it would remain 'playable' for some time. But even then you might have to
worry about the atmosphere surrounding it, and never play it, of course.
:-)

We know that CDs don't last forever, even if the format stays in use.

Not sure who "knows" this on the basis of experience... ;-

It is reasonable to assume that no artifact will "last forever".

Perhaps CDs will ebcome as rare as leaded petrol.

I have my doubts that anyone will be playing either LPs or CDs for normal
domestic entertainment in 1000 years time. However lacking your impressive
ability to "know" these things, I can't really be sure. :-)

Slainte,

Jim

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