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StatMats for CD's/DVD's - Do they work?
In anetnews.com,
Ollie typed: Hi, I came across these "Statmat's", and was considering the CDi Blue - does anyone have any experience of them - do they actually live up to http://tinyurl.com/lj2w Hi Crossposted this to uk.rec.audio as there are people in there much more able to comment than I... Just my 2p worth but they look like complete and unadulterated bunkum to me! According to the blurb on the website:- "When static builds up on the CD, it can interfere with the interpretation of the digital information. This means that, when the digital-to-analogue conversion takes place, an impaired signal is produced." "Electrostatic build-up introduces continuous electrical vibration, resulting in phase changes. If strong enough, this vibration can cause the phase to shift 45o, 90o or even higher and could make the absolute phase appear inverted. These phase anomalies can affect the timing of the music, with disastrous consequences on the quality of the reproduction. The timing of notes is crucial to the experience of music." They are making the completely incredulous and utterly unfeasible statement that phase anomalies in the transport can result in phase changes to the decoded audio. I love snake oil... Steve |
StatMats for CD's/DVD's - Do they work?
more from the 'Steve school' of uk.rec.audio-ism:
In anetnews.com, Ollie typed: Hi, I came across these "Statmat's", and was considering the CDi Blue - does anyone have any experience of them - do they actually live up to http://tinyurl.com/lj2w Hi Crossposted this to uk.rec.audio as there are people in there much more able to comment than I... Just my 2p worth but they look like complete and unadulterated bunkum to me! According to the blurb on the website:- "When static builds up on the CD, it can interfere with the interpretation of the digital information. This means that, when the digital-to-analogue conversion takes place, an impaired signal is produced." "Electrostatic build-up introduces continuous electrical vibration, resulting in phase changes. If strong enough, this vibration can cause the phase to shift 45o, 90o or even higher and could make the absolute phase appear inverted. These phase anomalies can affect the timing of the music, with disastrous consequences on the quality of the reproduction. The timing of notes is crucial to the experience of music." They are making the completely incredulous and utterly unfeasible statement that phase anomalies in the transport can result in phase changes to the decoded audio. I love snake oil... Steve Well of course they're ridiculous, yet another example of people treating CDs as if they were records. I mean, seriously, these things must cost 10p to make, if they did anything they'd come built into most new CD players anyway! Then again, in light of the OP's a good few years ago you could buy "ring" thingy's that went around the edge of a cd (stuck to the top), which reduced vibration. I have one on my copy of Brothers In Arms, and it does improve the quality." I'm sure he'll hear another great improvement in sound! -- Jim H jh @333 .org |
StatMats for CD's/DVD's - Do they work?
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:16:35 +0000 (UTC), Jim H
wrote: snip Then again, in light of the OP's a good few years ago you could buy "ring" thingy's that went around the edge of a cd (stuck to the top), which reduced vibration. I have one on my copy of Brothers In Arms, and it does improve the quality." As long as the "thingy" is of sufficient thickness to prevent the disc from rotating in the drive ... this will *definitely* improve the sound of any Dire Straits album :-) Julian -- Julian Fowler julian (at) bellevue-barn (dot) org (dot) uk |
StatMats for CD's/DVD's - Do they work?
a good few years ago you could buy "ring" thingy's that went around the edge of a cd (stuck to the top), which reduced vibration. I have one on my copy of Brothers In Arms, and it does improve the quality." As long as the "thingy" is of sufficient thickness to prevent the disc from rotating in the drive ... this will *definitely* improve the sound of any Dire Straits album :-) Oi! I quite like Dire Straits! In fact I found out something quite strange about Dire Straits' "Unique" sound.... Whilst on the phone to orange with dire straits playing in the background, i noticed that without pressing any buttons on my phoone, i was getting put through to different departments... It turns out that Dire Straits' guitar sounds very similar to DTMF tone signals... Private Investigations got me through to the roaming department without pressing a button. Random. |
StatMats for CD's/DVD's - Do they work?
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 15:16:35 +0000 (UTC), Jim H
wrote: more from the 'Steve school' of uk.rec.audio-ism: In anetnews.com, Ollie typed: Hi, I came across these "Statmat's", and was considering the CDi Blue - does anyone have any experience of them - do they actually live up to http://tinyurl.com/lj2w Hi Crossposted this to uk.rec.audio as there are people in there much more able to comment than I... Just my 2p worth but they look like complete and unadulterated bunkum to me! According to the blurb on the website:- "When static builds up on the CD, it can interfere with the interpretation of the digital information. This means that, when the digital-to-analogue conversion takes place, an impaired signal is produced." "Electrostatic build-up introduces continuous electrical vibration, resulting in phase changes. If strong enough, this vibration can cause the phase to shift 45o, 90o or even higher and could make the absolute phase appear inverted. These phase anomalies can affect the timing of the music, with disastrous consequences on the quality of the reproduction. The timing of notes is crucial to the experience of music." They are making the completely incredulous and utterly unfeasible statement that phase anomalies in the transport can result in phase changes to the decoded audio. I love snake oil... Steve Well of course they're ridiculous, yet another example of people treating CDs as if they were records. I mean, seriously, these things must cost 10p to make, if they did anything they'd come built into most new CD players anyway! Then again, in light of the OP's a good few years ago you could buy "ring" thingy's that went around the edge of a cd (stuck to the top), which reduced vibration. I have one on my copy of Brothers In Arms, and it does improve the quality." I'm sure he'll hear another great improvement in sound! Being the original poster, I did say that I thought they would probably be crap. The theory behind the vibration reducing things is a good one, and they didn't cost the earth to find out. I can hear a difference, simple as that - it also spins slightly quieter in the drive. At 50 pence a throw, it's worth trying - the stat mats at nearly 40 quid aren't. Ollie Remove NOSPAM if replying by e-mail. |
StatMats for CD's/DVD's - Do they work?
"Ollie" wrote in message news.com... Being the original poster, I did say that I thought they would probably be crap. The theory behind the vibration reducing things is a good one, and they didn't cost the earth to find out. I can hear a difference, simple as that - it also spins slightly quieter in the drive. At 50 pence a throw, it's worth trying - the stat mats at nearly 40 quid aren't. the info on a cd is digital - if some fault is stopping the signal getting through you'll soon know it - it will be that nasty noise (not the dire straits nasty noise- -the clicking one). so unless the magic ring is reprogramming the signal via a tiny hidden pc any perceived difference in sound quality will be in the analogue domain - your amp. -- Gareth quote of the day 'nostradamus? -sounds like a rock group to me!' see my ebay auctions a http://makeashorterlink.com/?F4B314E61 |
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