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[email protected] March 5th 06 03:59 AM

Floorstanders on stands
 
After a very lengthy Google search I've found that I perhaps made a
mistake in purchasing floorstanding speakers and should have went with
bookshelf. My main problem is that the speakers are about 40cm too
low.

I gather it's agreed I'd have been better with the bookshelves, but now
that I'm stuck with floorstanders, would there be anything about
raising their height with stands that would actually take away from the
sound quality rather than just loose the benefits floorstanders have?

I get the impression if I had a 40cm stack of paving slabs under each
it would have the desired effect. If so, is there an alternative that
would be better?

Preferably I'd put them on some coffee tables but worry they would be
unstable and would badly affect the sound.

Thanks in advance for any info.


harrogate2 March 5th 06 09:50 AM

Floorstanders on stands
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
After a very lengthy Google search I've found that I perhaps made a
mistake in purchasing floorstanding speakers and should have went

with
bookshelf. My main problem is that the speakers are about 40cm too
low.

I gather it's agreed I'd have been better with the bookshelves, but

now
that I'm stuck with floorstanders, would there be anything about
raising their height with stands that would actually take away from

the
sound quality rather than just loose the benefits floorstanders

have?

I get the impression if I had a 40cm stack of paving slabs under

each
it would have the desired effect. If so, is there an alternative

that
would be better?

Preferably I'd put them on some coffee tables but worry they would

be
unstable and would badly affect the sound.

Thanks in advance for any info.


What makes you think they are 40cm (16 inches on old money) too low?
Floorstanders are meant to stand on the floor and designed to work
from there.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com



Stewart Pinkerton March 5th 06 10:27 AM

Floorstanders on stands
 
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 10:50:47 GMT, "harrogate2"
wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...
After a very lengthy Google search I've found that I perhaps made a
mistake in purchasing floorstanding speakers and should have went

with
bookshelf. My main problem is that the speakers are about 40cm too
low.

I gather it's agreed I'd have been better with the bookshelves, but

now
that I'm stuck with floorstanders, would there be anything about
raising their height with stands that would actually take away from

the
sound quality rather than just loose the benefits floorstanders

have?

I get the impression if I had a 40cm stack of paving slabs under

each
it would have the desired effect. If so, is there an alternative

that
would be better?

Preferably I'd put them on some coffee tables but worry they would

be
unstable and would badly affect the sound.

Thanks in advance for any info.


What makes you think they are 40cm (16 inches on old money) too low?
Floorstanders are meant to stand on the floor and designed to work
from there.


Quite so. In particular, they will have been voiced to take account of
the floor reflection with the bass/mid driver at the designed height.
Change that height, and you'll put a ripple in the lower midband
response.

--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Jo March 5th 06 10:27 AM

Floorstanders on stands
 
In oups.com,
typed:

I get the impression if I had a 40cm stack of paving slabs under each
it would have the desired effect. If so, is there an alternative that
would be better?

Preferably I'd put them on some coffee tables but worry they would be
unstable and would badly affect the sound.

Thanks in advance for any info.


I'm definitely no expert but am just finishing off a pair of hefty DIY
floorstanders. They are on stands that are basically MDF boxes filled with
building sand....just an idea you might consider for home made stands. A bit
easier than half a ton of paving slabs :-)

Also, if the problem you have is with limited treble dispersion then you
might consider angling your floorstanders up slightly.

Just my 2 pence worth.

Jo





Tony Gartshore March 5th 06 10:53 AM

Floorstanders on stands
 
In article ,
says...

I'm definitely no expert but am just finishing off a pair of hefty DIY
floorstanders. They are on stands that are basically MDF boxes filled with
building sand....just an idea you might consider for home made stands. A bit
easier than half a ton of paving slabs :-)

Also, if the problem you have is with limited treble dispersion then you
might consider angling your floorstanders up slightly.

Or sitting closer to the floor !

T.

Keith G March 5th 06 12:20 PM

Floorstanders on stands
 

"Tony Gartshore" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

I'm definitely no expert but am just finishing off a pair of hefty DIY
floorstanders. They are on stands that are basically MDF boxes filled
with
building sand....just an idea you might consider for home made stands. A
bit
easier than half a ton of paving slabs :-)

Also, if the problem you have is with limited treble dispersion then you
might consider angling your floorstanders up slightly.

Or sitting closer to the floor !




Yes, cutting the legs off his chair would be a lot less work than stacking
paving slabs up - 40 cm is 10 'domestic' pavings or 8 'industrial' paving
per side...!!

Or he could just swap the floorstanders for standmounters and do the job
properly....

;-)





Tony Gartshore March 5th 06 01:09 PM

Floorstanders on stands
 
In article .com,
says...
Thanks for all the replies.

So in this bad situation I need to find a compromise. I would have to
buy the coffee tables or else I'd just set it up and listen. Would the
bass driver's relation to the floor totally ruin the sound? The way I
have it set up at the moment is definately ruining the sound so I
wonder, firstly, if the best compromise would be to have less than
perfect bass colouring in order to have a sweet spot I actually sit in.
Or is it really a case of floorstanding speakers being designed so
differently that they sound awful when placed in a non-optimal
position?

Sorry for the slightly flippant reply last time...

I doubt that raising the bass units further from the floor than designed
will be as disastrous as hiding the tweeters below a desk. Scrounge
some bricks/ breezeblocks / even piles of books and give it a go. If it
works then look at something more permanent. A local engineering shop
could probably make up some suitable steel frames..

One alternative to consider. Buy a decent set of headphones to use when
sat at the PC. Maybe a pair of Senheisser wireless ones ?

T.

Jo's reply was what I was thinking could be an answer. In that case
I'd either use the coffee tables or keep it the same (depending on the
answer to the previous questions) until I could get the money / time to
build a couple of heavy boxes.

Again, I will greatly appreciate any further response.



Jim Lesurf March 5th 06 01:51 PM

Floorstanders on stands
 
In article .com,
wrote:
Thanks for all the replies.



Again, I will greatly appreciate any further response.


The sound you get will depend on many more factors that the height of the
speakers, and the reflection from the floor. Hence given all the other
variables, you may well you find you prefer the results with the speakers
at some other height. The only way to tell is to experiment with different
locations for them and listen to what you get. So give it a try, and be
patient... :-)

Slainte,

Jim

--
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Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
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Rich Wilson March 12th 06 11:31 PM

Floorstanders on stands
 

"harrogate2" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
After a very lengthy Google search I've found that I perhaps made a
mistake in purchasing floorstanding speakers and should have went

with
bookshelf. My main problem is that the speakers are about 40cm too
low.

I gather it's agreed I'd have been better with the bookshelves, but

now
that I'm stuck with floorstanders, would there be anything about
raising their height with stands that would actually take away from

the
sound quality rather than just loose the benefits floorstanders

have?

I get the impression if I had a 40cm stack of paving slabs under

each
it would have the desired effect. If so, is there an alternative

that
would be better?

Preferably I'd put them on some coffee tables but worry they would

be
unstable and would badly affect the sound.

Thanks in advance for any info.


What makes you think they are 40cm (16 inches on old money) too low?


Maybe because the tweeters are miles below ear level...?



harrogate2 March 13th 06 06:45 AM

Floorstanders on stands
 

"Rich Wilson" wrote in message
...

"harrogate2" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
After a very lengthy Google search I've found that I perhaps made

a
mistake in purchasing floorstanding speakers and should have went

with
bookshelf. My main problem is that the speakers are about 40cm

too
low.

I gather it's agreed I'd have been better with the bookshelves,

but
now
that I'm stuck with floorstanders, would there be anything about
raising their height with stands that would actually take away

from
the
sound quality rather than just loose the benefits floorstanders

have?

I get the impression if I had a 40cm stack of paving slabs under

each
it would have the desired effect. If so, is there an alternative

that
would be better?

Preferably I'd put them on some coffee tables but worry they

would
be
unstable and would badly affect the sound.

Thanks in advance for any info.


What makes you think they are 40cm (16 inches on old money) too

low?

Maybe because the tweeters are miles below ear level...?



Then maybe tilt them backwards slightly?

Does it not occur to you that if a manufacturer makes a floorstander
they are not expecting listeners to sit on the floor so that the
tweeters are at seated ear height? They will have taken account of
that by using tweeters with wide-angle dispersion.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com




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