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"Jenn" wrote in message
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In article . com,
"Andre Jute" wrote:

More than an hour after I posted the very specific complaint below,
Jenn posted to the thread " WHY ANDREW
JUTE MCCOY IS A LIAR" this text: "What do you people have against
bassoons?" That is Jenn's eighth message to a thread calling me a liar.

Tell me, Jenn, are you extraordinarily insensitive even for a poster to
RAO, are you too thick to be a musician, never mind a conductor, or can
you make a case that I ever told less than the truth about bassoons or
any of the other subjects you raised under a headline calling me a
liar?

I certainly wish sincerely that you are able to say your server
delivered my post pointing out your lack of sensitivity after you sent
your last post in that thread. That would leave only your seven earlier
messages to explain.

WTF are you talking about? I've not even read with any care any
evidence that you're a liar. I have to enough to be concerned about
with people saying that I am deaf, stupid, a sockpuppet, lying, etc. as
well as putting words in my mouth, for simply stating what I hear. I
only read the thread when it got into issue about which I'm interested.

Geese!


JUTE:

You need to separate the message from the header.
After all, you post under that header also.
Are you calling yourself a liar?



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"Andre Jute" wrote in message
oups.com...

Keith G wrote:

"Andre Jute" wrote in message
ups.com...
uk.rec.audio, rec.audio.opinion and rec.audio.tubes are newsgroups
populated by self-declared audiophiles. One would expect those who
boast about their interest in music, one of the arts which express
emotion, to be sensitive. One could excuse those among them who are
"engineers" and hangers-on of engineers for being crudely insensitive
as it is well known that these types lack the finer sensibilities that
distinguish (or are supposed to distinguish) music lovers from the hoi
polloi.

Yet on these three conferences we find a thread "WHY ANDREW JUTE MCCOY
IS A LIAR" with 128 message from 29 distinct contributors (1). The
thread is about liquor, CD players, and much else. There is a
contributor called Andre Jute well known to regulars on all three these
conferences. No effort was made anywhere in this thread to prove that
he is a liar. Of these 29 contributors, *28* never had the sensitivity
in all of the *10 days* and *128 messages* of this thread to ask if it
isn't poor manners to mangle someone's name, if it isn't poor manners
to discuss many other matters under a headline condemning someone
without proof, if a new thread wouldn't be a courtesy.

So much for the manners of the trailer park trash one finds on
newsgroups.

Only one of these 29 contributors, Iain Churches, remarked that it was
weird to discuss Calvados under such a heading. Another contributor,
Don Pearce, a self-declared "engineer" then insisted the thread was
about proving Andre Jute a liar. In other words, in Don Pearce's mind
this libellous calumny was conducted deliberately. Apparently he spoke
for the rest, as their continued posting to this maliciously named
thread on a wide range of subjects confirms. Thus the excuse of inborn
insensitivity and crudeness in "engineers" falls away: this was a
deliberate crime initiated by Stewart Pinkerton and knowingly supported
by the the "engineers" and their hangers-on, who all thereby become
Pinkerton's accomplices.

Let's see who apologizes and who adds abuse to the nauseating
insensitivity and appallingly poor manners they have already displayed
for 10 days and 128 messages.

Andre Jute

(1) Count conducted at 17.28 GMT on 14 Mar 2006.



Too much crossposting - *Binned and removed*...

Gee, Keith, after 128 messages calling me a liar in the headline,
crossposted to UKRA, RAT and RAT, I make a humble complaint -- and you
start screeching in no fewer than nine messages about crossposting.
Looks to me like you're adhering to a double standard.

I'll count you for nine votes against good manners, decency, fairness,
justice and honesty.

Audiophiles 1, Trailer Park Trash 10


Why don't you just go back to changing the header when you respond.



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Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
From: Andre Jute
Date: Tues, Mar 14 2006 11:52 am
Email: "Andre Jute"

Let's see who apologizes and who adds abuse to the nauseating
insensitivity and appallingly poor manners they have already displayed
for 10 days and 128 messages

Well, I also posted to the thread when it said that Pinkerton was
unreliable (started by you, it appears).

Absolutely. But that was a reasoned, documented case.

So if I apologize to you, I must then also apologize to Stewart. Since
he likes and eats haggis, I'm afraid that isn't possible. I've had
haggis and it's disgusting.

I would also point out that you, to be fair, should probably apologize
to Stewart for negatively dragging his name into a thread title, which
could also be called 'insensitive.' Goose, gander, and all.

A reasoned, documented, proven case, made by me; I didn't just call
Pinkerton malicious, I *proved* that he is malicious.

The case with you is different. You carelessly contributed to a thread
in which I was accused of being a liar. In fact, the appearance is that
you claimed I lied on classes of liquor about which I never said a word
among other reasons because crap like that will never pass my lips.

So, even though I do not pay much attention to thread titles (like most
here, I'd imagine), since I have posted to both threads, and since I
will not apologize to a haggis-eater, I guess that means you'd better
put me in with the trailer park trash. TIA...:-)

Nah, okay, you're funny, and you're glib (and by all accounts you're
also bloody big) so I'll overlook it this time. Next time, it's your
Grand Cherokee for the chop...

Score still:
Lotuseaters 1, Haggismunchies 19

In article .com,
"Andre Jute" wrote:

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
From: Andre Jute
Date: Tues, Mar 14 2006 11:52 am
Email: "Andre Jute"

Let's see who apologizes and who adds abuse to the nauseating
insensitivity and appallingly poor manners they have already displayed
for 10 days and 128 messages

Well, I also posted to the thread when it said that Pinkerton was
unreliable (started by you, it appears).

Absolutely. But that was a reasoned, documented case.

So if I apologize to you, I must then also apologize to Stewart. Since
he likes and eats haggis, I'm afraid that isn't possible. I've had
haggis and it's disgusting.

I would also point out that you, to be fair, should probably apologize
to Stewart for negatively dragging his name into a thread title, which
could also be called 'insensitive.' Goose, gander, and all.

A reasoned, documented, proven case, made by me; I didn't just call
Pinkerton malicious, I *proved* that he is malicious.

The case with you is different. You carelessly contributed to a thread
in which I was accused of being a liar. snip

You are not thinking logically. You excuse YOUR action where you
ACTUALLY accuse a poster of bad behavior in the title of a post, but
accuse Shhhhh and me of being "insensitive" because we replied to posts
that had NOTHING to do with you at all. Think it though, my friend, and
stop looking foolish.

From: Keith G
Date: Tues, Mar 14 2006 7:11 pm
Email: "Keith G"

Too much crossposting - *Binned and removed*...

Too much crossposting - *Binned and removed*...

LOL! We can do this indefinitely...

Jenn wrote:
In article .com,
"Andre Jute" wrote:

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
From: Andre Jute
Date: Tues, Mar 14 2006 11:52 am
Email: "Andre Jute"

Let's see who apologizes and who adds abuse to the nauseating
insensitivity and appallingly poor manners they have already displayed
for 10 days and 128 messages

Well, I also posted to the thread when it said that Pinkerton was
unreliable (started by you, it appears).

Absolutely. But that was a reasoned, documented case.

So if I apologize to you, I must then also apologize to Stewart. Since
he likes and eats haggis, I'm afraid that isn't possible. I've had
haggis and it's disgusting.

I would also point out that you, to be fair, should probably apologize
to Stewart for negatively dragging his name into a thread title, which
could also be called 'insensitive.' Goose, gander, and all.

A reasoned, documented, proven case, made by me; I didn't just call
Pinkerton malicious, I *proved* that he is malicious.

The case with you is different. You carelessly contributed to a thread
in which I was accused of being a liar. snip

You are not thinking logically. You excuse YOUR action where you
ACTUALLY accuse a poster of bad behavior in the title of a post, but
accuse Shhhhh and me of being "insensitive" because we replied to posts
that had NOTHING to do with you at all. Think it though, my friend, and
stop looking foolish.

I don't know who taught you logic, Jenn, but you should ask for your
tuition back. They either did a very bad job, or you are terrifyingly
stupid, or your memory of what you were taught is faulty.

I deliberately made a case about Stewart Pinkerton and proved it with
documentation. I intended maximum offense to a clown who spent fifteen
months trying to wreck a project of mine for no better reason than his
malice. The documentation proves his malice.

You carelessly signed your name *8 times* to a headline accusing me of
being a liar, apparently without knowing me. If you cannot see how
offensive that is, you and I have nothing in common. Please don't call
me "my friend"; my friends are well-mannered people and you're not.

I think that, in the absence of an instant apology, this conversation
should have been over three exchanges ago. Your behaviour before and
since is inexcusable. Goodbye.

Andre Jute

Think it though, my friend, and stop looking foolish.

Jenn:

But that is what Mr. McCoy does best. As a designer of yachts, amps,
sports cars, international soldier of fortune, cook, artist and
(vanity) published writer, he has provided comic-relief the entire
time. The saddest part of all this is that he appears never to be
called to account. Were he to practice any of this crap face-to-face,
it would be remarkable that he would remain upright and intact. Either
that or he would be recognized and labeled as the village idiot that he
is and ignored. You just happen to be his latest focus as he feels he
can disconcert you without consequence. Mr. McCoy claims to be a South
African. Given his age (60-61) and if true he is of that generation
that has lived on the backs of others and likely sees himself as a
refugee driven from his homeland by Kaffirs and various other "labels"
at which he is so adept. That does give one a distorted view of
reality. It is as equally likely to be another one of his
confabulations, but at this point, I doubt even Mr. McCoy can keep his
stories straight.

That he hides behind an alias, that he hides in an obscure corner of a
small country, and that he clearly lives like a very secretive
doormouse 'at home' and fulminates only in his keyboard fantasy world
is clearly the key to his continued survival.
Well, the world is an awfully small place, and he might just be
surprised at the reach that some might have across it.

Jute, Andre & Ro Millbrook Hse New Rd Bandon Cork 023 42128

Not so hard, was that?

You will also note that Mr. Alison, late as nasty a person as ever was,
has actually started to give (good) advice, make reasonable (and even
pleasant) posts...

Be well, Mr. McCoy. No threats made or implied. But the world is
awfully, awfully small. One day, you just might meet one of your liars,
trailer-trash, haggismunchies and drive-by shooters in a tight place.
With a 30 second look at your history, no jury under English Law would
convict. You might think of that just once before exercising your
fingers. That or get your meds adjusted properly this time.

Sleep tight.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

To the rest of the crowds: WHAT IF: we simply do not reply to _ANY_ of
Mr. McCoy's posts for the next say.... 10 days from Noon, your time,
Friday, March 17, 2006. I am sure St. Patrick would be proud of all of
us if we can manage this? Give it a try? I will... Mr. Pinkerton? Mr.
Pasternack? The rest of you? And if that works we might just tough it
out and keep at it? He will go away if NO ONE answers. Really. But
expect all sorts of rants, fulminations, fantasies, demands, claims and
accusations in the meantime. He needs our blood to survive, and
bluntly, it ain't worth donating to his cause.

SNIP !

Were he to practice any of this crap face-to-face,
it would be remarkable that he would remain upright and intact. Either
that or he would be recognized and labeled as the village idiot that he
is and ignored. You just happen to be his latest focus as he feels he
can disconcert you without consequence. Mr. McCoy claims to be a South
African. Given his age (60-61) and if true he is of that generation
that has lived on the backs of others and likely sees himself as a
refugee driven from his homeland by Kaffirs and various other "labels"
at which he is so adept. That does give one a distorted view of
reality. It is as equally likely to be another one of his
confabulations, but at this point, I doubt even Mr. McCoy can keep his
stories straight.

That he hides behind an alias, that he hides in an obscure corner of a
small country, and that he clearly lives like a very secretive
doormouse 'at home' and fulminates only in his keyboard fantasy world
is clearly the key to his continued survival.
Well, the world is an awfully small place, and he might just be
surprised at the reach that some might have across it.

Jute, Andre & Ro Millbrook Hse New Rd Bandon Cork 023 42128

Not so hard, was that?

You will also note that Mr. Alison, late as nasty a person as ever was,
has actually started to give (good) advice, make reasonable (and even
pleasant) posts...

Be well, Mr. McCoy. No threats made or implied. But the world is
awfully, awfully small. One day, you just might meet one of your liars,
trailer-trash, haggismunchies and drive-by shooters in a tight place.
With a 30 second look at your history, no jury under English Law would
convict. You might think of that just once before exercising your
fingers. That or get your meds adjusted properly this time.

Sleep tight.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Careful Peter, your "information" may end up on a "list" somewhere for
making threats against The Great One as mine was a few years ago for a post
exalting the relative safety of Usenet for written abuse. Yuk! Yuk! In any
case, Kutztown is only a few months away now, time to go digging for more
important things.
MarkS

In article .com,
"Andre Jute" wrote:

Jenn wrote:
In article .com,
"Andre Jute" wrote:

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
From: Andre Jute
Date: Tues, Mar 14 2006 11:52 am
Email: "Andre Jute"

Let's see who apologizes and who adds abuse to the nauseating
insensitivity and appallingly poor manners they have already displayed
for 10 days and 128 messages

Well, I also posted to the thread when it said that Pinkerton was
unreliable (started by you, it appears).

Absolutely. But that was a reasoned, documented case.

So if I apologize to you, I must then also apologize to Stewart. Since
he likes and eats haggis, I'm afraid that isn't possible. I've had
haggis and it's disgusting.

I would also point out that you, to be fair, should probably apologize
to Stewart for negatively dragging his name into a thread title, which
could also be called 'insensitive.' Goose, gander, and all.

A reasoned, documented, proven case, made by me; I didn't just call
Pinkerton malicious, I *proved* that he is malicious.

The case with you is different. You carelessly contributed to a thread
in which I was accused of being a liar. snip

You are not thinking logically. You excuse YOUR action where you
ACTUALLY accuse a poster of bad behavior in the title of a post, but
accuse Shhhhh and me of being "insensitive" because we replied to posts
that had NOTHING to do with you at all. Think it though, my friend, and
stop looking foolish.

I don't know who taught you logic, Jenn, but you should ask for your
tuition back. They either did a very bad job, or you are terrifyingly
stupid, or your memory of what you were taught is faulty.

I deliberately made a case about Stewart Pinkerton and proved it with
documentation. I intended maximum offense to a clown who spent fifteen
months trying to wreck a project of mine for no better reason than his
malice. The documentation proves his malice.

You carelessly signed your name *8 times* to a headline accusing me of
being a liar, apparently without knowing me. If you cannot see how
offensive that is, you and I have nothing in common. Please don't call
me "my friend"; my friends are well-mannered people and you're not.

I think that, in the absence of an instant apology, this conversation
should have been over three exchanges ago. Your behaviour before and
since is inexcusable. Goodbye.

Andre Jute

That's nice hon...sleep well.