Non Audio CDR's on Sony?
 

Hi,

Is there a hack or anything that let's me use non Audio CDR's (i.e.
standard blank CDR's) on my Sony RCD-W1? Google search turned up
nothing so I'm not holding out much hope...

Thanks,
Jamezgb

Non Audio CDR's on Sony?
 

"Jamezgb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Is there a hack or anything that let's me use non Audio CDR's (i.e.
standard blank CDR's) on my Sony RCD-W1? Google search turned up
nothing so I'm not holding out much hope...

Thanks,
Jamezgb

Just try recording a track and play it. On my lo-fi setup can't tell the dif
between audio and crap blanks.

--
John the West Ham fan

Non Audio CDR's on Sony?
 

"housetrained" wrote in message
...
"Jamezgb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Is there a hack or anything that let's me use non Audio CDR's (i.e.
standard blank CDR's) on my Sony RCD-W1? Google search turned up
nothing so I'm not holding out much hope...

Thanks,
Jamezgb

Just try recording a track and play it. On my lo-fi setup can't tell the
dif between audio and crap blanks.

--
John the West Ham fan


On a lot of CDRs, that's not the issue. A proper audio blank has a digital
watermark manufactured in, that says that some monetry duty or other has
been paid as part of the purchase price. Something to do with recording
copyright. Some recorders look for that watermark - notably Philips ones -
and if it's not found, the recorder won't accept the disc as valid media. I
guess that's what the poster is asking about. I've never seen any hack to
get around this.

Arfa

Non Audio CDR's on Sony?
 

On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:11:34 GMT, "Arfa Daily"
wrote:


"housetrained" wrote in message
...
"Jamezgb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Is there a hack or anything that let's me use non Audio CDR's (i.e.
standard blank CDR's) on my Sony RCD-W1? Google search turned up
nothing so I'm not holding out much hope...

Thanks,
Jamezgb

Just try recording a track and play it. On my lo-fi setup can't tell the
dif between audio and crap blanks.

--
John the West Ham fan


On a lot of CDRs, that's not the issue. A proper audio blank has a digital
watermark manufactured in, that says that some monetry duty or other has
been paid as part of the purchase price. Something to do with recording
copyright. Some recorders look for that watermark - notably Philips ones -
and if it's not found, the recorder won't accept the disc as valid media. I
guess that's what the poster is asking about. I've never seen any hack to
get around this.

Arfa


That's the issue alright. Spookily enough I was in Morrissons doing
the weekly shopping and they are doing BOGOF on Audio CDR's so I
managed to get 20 for £6 which isn't bad for these sort of discs.

Jamezgb

Non Audio CDR's on Sony?
 

"Jamezgb" wrote in message
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On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:11:34 GMT, "Arfa Daily"
wrote:


"housetrained" wrote in message
...
"Jamezgb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Is there a hack or anything that let's me use non Audio CDR's (i.e.
standard blank CDR's) on my Sony RCD-W1? Google search turned up
nothing so I'm not holding out much hope...

Thanks,
Jamezgb

Just try recording a track and play it. On my lo-fi setup can't tell the
dif between audio and crap blanks.

--
John the West Ham fan


On a lot of CDRs, that's not the issue. A proper audio blank has a digital
watermark manufactured in, that says that some monetry duty or other has
been paid as part of the purchase price. Something to do with recording
copyright. Some recorders look for that watermark - notably Philips ones -
and if it's not found, the recorder won't accept the disc as valid media.
I
guess that's what the poster is asking about. I've never seen any hack to
get around this.

Arfa


That's the issue alright. Spookily enough I was in Morrissons doing
the weekly shopping and they are doing BOGOF on Audio CDR's so I
managed to get 20 for £6 which isn't bad for these sort of discs.

Jamezgb


Yes, that is a good price. A friend of mine once bought a ' new second hand
' Philips recorder from a guy that had them stacked up on a stall at a radio
/ computer rally. They all had fault tickets on them that said much the same
thing - " plays but no record ". Having payed his 10 quid, he went away a
happy bunny, found another stall selling media, and bought a bunch of
audio-marked blank discs. This was how I first found out about this, and
it's amazing how many people it catches out ...

Arfa

Non Audio CDR's on Sony?
 

In article , Arfa Daily
wrote:

"housetrained" wrote in message
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"Jamezgb" wrote in message
...
Hi,

Is there a hack or anything that let's me use non Audio CDR's (i.e.
standard blank CDR's) on my Sony RCD-W1? Google search turned up
nothing so I'm not holding out much hope...

I am curious as to why you wish to do this.

I used to regard this as an 'issue' (as we now have to say) when 'data'
discs cost noticably less than 'audio' ones. However my experience in
recent years is that they cost much the same, and are quite cheap. Also,
that in some cases 'audio' CDRs play more reliably in ordinary CD audio
players.



Just try recording a track and play it. On my lo-fi setup can't tell
the dif between audio and crap blanks.

-- John the West Ham fan

On a lot of CDRs, that's not the issue. A proper audio blank has a
digital watermark manufactured in, that says that some monetry duty or
other has been paid as part of the purchase price. Something to do with
recording copyright. Some recorders look for that watermark - notably
Philips ones - and if it's not found, the recorder won't accept the
disc as valid media. I guess that's what the poster is asking about.
I've never seen any hack to get around this.

IIRC with some of the early recorders you could load an audio disc, let it
be 'read', and then open/close the draw 'by hand' to replace it with a
'data' disc and the machine would then continue to think it was an 'audio'
disc and record onto it.

However I've never bothered with this as 'audio' discs are cheap enough.

FWIW a 'work around' is to record onto 'audio' CDRW. Then copy that onto
CDR on a computer before blanking the CDRW for re-use. I do this when
'editing' a recording to set tracks, etc, after actual recording.

Slainte,

Jim

--
Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scot...o/electron.htm
Audio Misc http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/AudioMisc/index.html
Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html
Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html

Non Audio CDR's on Sony?
 

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:51:13 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:


Is there a hack or anything that let's me use non Audio CDR's (i.e.
standard blank CDR's) on my Sony RCD-W1? Google search turned up
nothing so I'm not holding out much hope...

I am curious as to why you wish to do this.

I used to regard this as an 'issue' (as we now have to say) when 'data'
discs cost noticably less than 'audio' ones. However my experience in
recent years is that they cost much the same, and are quite cheap. Also,
that in some cases 'audio' CDRs play more reliably in ordinary CD audio
players.



Only reason is that I'd just used the last of my Audio CDR's and have
got about 100 blank CD-Roms kicking around, so it would have been
convenient to use those (plus they have inkjet printable surfaces). I
managed to get 20 for £6 from Morrissons in the end, so it's all
academic now.

Jamezgb

Non Audio CDR's on Sony?
 

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:04:02 +0100, Jamezgb wrote:

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:51:13 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:


Is there a hack or anything that let's me use non Audio CDR's (i.e.
standard blank CDR's) on my Sony RCD-W1? Google search turned up
nothing so I'm not holding out much hope...

I am curious as to why you wish to do this.

I used to regard this as an 'issue' (as we now have to say) when 'data'
discs cost noticably less than 'audio' ones. However my experience in
recent years is that they cost much the same, and are quite cheap. Also,
that in some cases 'audio' CDRs play more reliably in ordinary CD audio
players.



Only reason is that I'd just used the last of my Audio CDR's and have
got about 100 blank CD-Roms kicking around, so it would have been
convenient to use those (plus they have inkjet printable surfaces). I
managed to get 20 for £6 from Morrissons in the end, so it's all
academic now.

Jamezgb

Audio CDR???
What's that? I have never bothered even looking for one and have
never had any problems whatsoever with the CDRs I have music on.
Why should I? The laser doesn't know the 1s and 0s represent
music.

/Martin

Non Audio CDR's on Sony?
 

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 19:16:37 +0200, Martin Schöön
wrote:

Audio CDR???
What's that? I have never bothered even looking for one and have
never had any problems whatsoever with the CDRs I have music on.
Why should I? The laser doesn't know the 1s and 0s represent
music.

But the stand-alone burner knows whether there's a code on the blank
media saying "I'm a certified Audio CD!". Some would argue it
protects you from cheap-and-nasty media. Some would consider it a
scam.

Non Audio CDR's on Sony?
 

"Martin Schöön" wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 14:04:02 +0100, Jamezgb wrote:

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 09:51:13 +0100, Jim Lesurf
wrote:


Is there a hack or anything that let's me use non Audio CDR's (i.e.
standard blank CDR's) on my Sony RCD-W1? Google search turned up
nothing so I'm not holding out much hope...

I am curious as to why you wish to do this.

I used to regard this as an 'issue' (as we now have to say) when 'data'
discs cost noticably less than 'audio' ones. However my experience in
recent years is that they cost much the same, and are quite cheap. Also,
that in some cases 'audio' CDRs play more reliably in ordinary CD audio
players.



Only reason is that I'd just used the last of my Audio CDR's and have
got about 100 blank CD-Roms kicking around, so it would have been
convenient to use those (plus they have inkjet printable surfaces). I
managed to get 20 for £6 from Morrissons in the end, so it's all
academic now.

Jamezgb

Audio CDR???
What's that? I have never bothered even looking for one and have
never had any problems whatsoever with the CDRs I have music on.
Why should I? The laser doesn't know the 1s and 0s represent
music.

/Martin

There are seven posts above that go carefully over what the issue is ...

Arfa