"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:50:12 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Ironically, SETs were virtually unknown as hifi amplifiers
at the time.

Maybe to *your* crew.

To *everyone*, you ignorant troll. Find me *one* supposedly
'hi fi' SET amp from before 1980.

Try looking in Japan.

If you can see that far...

You are right Dave, Sansui has manufactured good amplifiers at
this time.

Not SETs.

Ummmm Stewart, couldn't you read the sarcasm? Didn't it
translate?

There was no sarcasm, as you belatedly realised. You are of
course
still wrong about the existence of 'high end' SETs before 1980.

Watch Vile try to wriggle out of this one with some vague
unsupported claim or other.

Your xenophobia is duly noted.

Say what?

Look it up.

More evasion and deceit.

I can't hold your hand here. If you don't know what xenophbia means,
just ask.

I don't know what xenophbia means, I doubt anybody does. But xenophbia
isn't
the word in question, so this would be another one of your deceptive
attempts to avoid answering a simple question, eh Weil?



Fear of strangers or foreigners.




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On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:17:57 -0500, dave weil
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:34 GMT, (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

There was no sarcasm, as you belatedly realised. You are of course
still wrong about the existence of 'high end' SETs before 1980.

No I'm not. The Japanese had them back into the 60s.

Examples?
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:17:57 -0500, dave weil
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:34 GMT, (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

There was no sarcasm, as you belatedly realised. You are of course
still wrong about the existence of 'high end' SETs before 1980.

No I'm not. The Japanese had them back into the 60s.

Examples?
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:31:15 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:50:12 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Ironically, SETs were virtually unknown as hifi amplifiers
at the time.

Maybe to *your* crew.

To *everyone*, you ignorant troll. Find me *one* supposedly
'hi fi' SET amp from before 1980.

Try looking in Japan.

If you can see that far...

You are right Dave, Sansui has manufactured good amplifiers at
this time.

Not SETs.

Ummmm Stewart, couldn't you read the sarcasm? Didn't it
translate?

There was no sarcasm, as you belatedly realised. You are of course
still wrong about the existence of 'high end' SETs before 1980.

Watch Vile try to wriggle out of this one with some vague
unsupported claim or other.

Your xenophobia is duly noted.

Say what?

Look it up.

More evasion and deceit.

I can't hold your hand here. If you don't know what xenophbia means,
just ask.

I don't know what xenophbia means, I doubt anybody does.

It's fear of strangers, normally now translated as fear of foreigners.
But Vile still hasn't provided any examples of 'high end' SET amps pre
1980.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:31:15 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:


"dave weil" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:50:12 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

Ironically, SETs were virtually unknown as hifi amplifiers
at the time.

Maybe to *your* crew.

To *everyone*, you ignorant troll. Find me *one* supposedly
'hi fi' SET amp from before 1980.

Try looking in Japan.

If you can see that far...

You are right Dave, Sansui has manufactured good amplifiers at
this time.

Not SETs.

Ummmm Stewart, couldn't you read the sarcasm? Didn't it
translate?

There was no sarcasm, as you belatedly realised. You are of course
still wrong about the existence of 'high end' SETs before 1980.

Watch Vile try to wriggle out of this one with some vague
unsupported claim or other.

Your xenophobia is duly noted.

Say what?

Look it up.

More evasion and deceit.

I can't hold your hand here. If you don't know what xenophbia means,
just ask.

I don't know what xenophbia means, I doubt anybody does.

It's fear of strangers, normally now translated as fear of foreigners.
But Vile still hasn't provided any examples of 'high end' SET amps pre
1980.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Stewart Pinkerton said:

I don't know what xenophbia means, I doubt anybody does.

It's fear of strangers, normally now translated as fear of foreigners.

As long as you've been observing Krooger, and this is the limit of
your understanding?

Stewart Pinkerton said:

I don't know what xenophbia means, I doubt anybody does.

It's fear of strangers, normally now translated as fear of foreigners.

As long as you've been observing Krooger, and this is the limit of
your understanding?

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"dave weil" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:33 GMT, (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:46:51 -0500, dave weil
wrote:

Yes, I thought that Lionel was kidding when apparently he wasn't.

He was half right, too. Sansui did indeed make some nice amps in the
'70s, but of course they were push-pull solid state, not SETs.

Agreed. They also had a nice preamp in the late 80s. I owned one for a
while. I don't recall the number. It was the last gasp of a decent
company, as far as I know.

Some place along the line Sansui stopped being such a decent company. They
disemboweled themselves with a range of receivers that had very a
short-lived, critical, hard-to-replace part.



I wonder what made the change in Sansui from being a decent company? I've
still got a Model 2000 tuner/amp. Can't remember the year I bought it but I
was impressed that it came with a very comprehensive service manual (I've
never yet needed it yet) performs faultlessly even all the original panel
lamps still work. An Ok sounding & well built unit :-)

Mike

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"dave weil" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:33 GMT, (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:46:51 -0500, dave weil
wrote:

Yes, I thought that Lionel was kidding when apparently he wasn't.

He was half right, too. Sansui did indeed make some nice amps in the
'70s, but of course they were push-pull solid state, not SETs.

Agreed. They also had a nice preamp in the late 80s. I owned one for a
while. I don't recall the number. It was the last gasp of a decent
company, as far as I know.

Some place along the line Sansui stopped being such a decent company. They
disemboweled themselves with a range of receivers that had very a
short-lived, critical, hard-to-replace part.



I wonder what made the change in Sansui from being a decent company? I've
still got a Model 2000 tuner/amp. Can't remember the year I bought it but I
was impressed that it came with a very comprehensive service manual (I've
never yet needed it yet) performs faultlessly even all the original panel
lamps still work. An Ok sounding & well built unit :-)

Mike

"Mike Gilmour" wrote in message
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...
"dave weil" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:33 GMT, (Stewart
Pinkerton) wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:46:51 -0500, dave weil
wrote:

Yes, I thought that Lionel was kidding when apparently he wasn't.

He was half right, too. Sansui did indeed make some nice amps in the
'70s, but of course they were push-pull solid state, not SETs.

Agreed. They also had a nice preamp in the late 80s. I owned one for a
while. I don't recall the number. It was the last gasp of a decent
company, as far as I know.

Some place along the line Sansui stopped being such a decent company.
They
disemboweled themselves with a range of receivers that had very a
short-lived, critical, hard-to-replace part.



I wonder what made the change in Sansui from being a decent company? I've
still got a Model 2000 tuner/amp. Can't remember the year I bought it but
I
was impressed that it came with a very comprehensive service manual (I've
never yet needed it yet) performs faultlessly even all the original panel
lamps still work. An Ok sounding & well built unit :-)



Ultimately, the Chinese.....