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A discriminating audiophile among the Jesuits



 
 
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Old April 23rd 06, 08:28 AM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
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"paul packer" wrote in message
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On 22 Apr 2006 17:34:19 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:


conferences and their silicon delusions -- "blue-bleak embers" is a
touchstone description of that chilling, greyed-out silicon sound.
And
when they stumble and wound their pride and joy, they gash (gall,


As for black and white being only prints, fah chrisesake, this is the
twenty-first century: you can say "minstrels" aloud. And, while we're
about it, why should blue and whites be limited to Cyanotypes; the cops
will have something about that, as will the Delftware subchapter of the
Crockery Collectors of the Universe. If you want to throw stones, don't
stack them up at convenient overarm distance from your own glasshouse.

Welcome to the nuttier fringe of hi-fi.

Andre Jute


I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone?
:-)

There is an expression, "jesuitical reasoning", which is identical to, but
preceded the "R.A.O. Debating Trade" by several hundred years:
http://www.swrb.com/newslett/actualNLs/relliars.htm


Ohhh!

I think Granularised sounds much better than Granulated
After all they are 'ised rather than 'ated.

And as for my name, I am from Birmingham UK.

Jem


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Interesting granularised (granulated, translation for Andre) Cyanotype, or
Blue Print
http://www.flickr.com/photos/20619005@N00/130957974/


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Old April 23rd 06, 08:37 AM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
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In article ,
paul packer wrote:
I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone?


I often wonder where he gets his 'silicon slime' free recordings to enjoy
on his tubes. Perhaps he records everything himself on a Revox G36?

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Old April 23rd 06, 02:36 PM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
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On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:37:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
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In article ,
paul packer wrote:
I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone?


I often wonder where he gets his 'silicon slime' free recordings to enjoy
on his tubes. Perhaps he records everything himself on a Revox G36?


Why would you assume that he is either rational or consistent?
Besides, it's a plain fact that there's a lot more silicon in one of
his tube amps than in any solid state amp. It's what glass is made
from.

So, the *real* 'silicon slime' is Jute himself! :-)

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Old April 23rd 06, 10:42 PM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:37:00 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:


In article ,
paul packer wrote:

I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone?


I often wonder where he gets his 'silicon slime' free recordings to enjoy
on his tubes. Perhaps he records everything himself on a Revox G36?



Why would you assume that he is either rational or consistent?
Besides, it's a plain fact that there's a lot more silicon in one of
his tube amps than in any solid state amp. It's what glass is made
from.

So, the *real* 'silicon slime' is Jute himself! :-)


I don't think he's even seen silicon otherwise he'd recognise the
"blue-bleak embers" description as that of the colour of silicon
and not some metaphor for sound.
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Old April 23rd 06, 09:47 PM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I often wonder where he gets his 'silicon slime' free recordings to enjoy
on his tubes. Perhaps he records everything himself on a Revox G36?

Most any vinyl recorded before 1965 or so is likely "free of silicon".
Or geranium. Recording studios and master cutters used tubes before then.
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Old April 23rd 06, 10:59 PM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
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robert casey wrote:
I often wonder where he gets his 'silicon slime' free recordings to
enjoy on his tubes. Perhaps he records everything himself on a Revox
G36?

Most any vinyl recorded before 1965 or so is likely "free of silicon".
Or geranium. Recording studios and master cutters used tubes before
then.


True. But then with the inherent distortion of vinyl it doesn't much
matter. And the 1/4" master will have removed all the transients anyway.

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Old April 23rd 06, 08:50 AM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
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paul packer wrote:


I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone? :-)


It's Andre being brilliantly funny without being malicious, for a change.
Though he is mistaken in his interpretation, as Hopkins was obviously
criticizing valves. Silicon refers to the glass of the tube; shine, blue-bleak,
embers, vermillion, to his problems with heating his cathodes. He would have
known of the work of Guthrie and Edison, but transistors were still a pipe-dream.

Further proof is found in his 'The Candle Indoors' where he bemoans the
short lifespan of valves and has a sly dig at fans of tetrodes:

Come you indoors, come home; your fading fire
Mend first and vital candle in close heart’s vault:
You there are master, do your own desire;
What hinders? Are you beam-blind, yet to a fault
In a neighbour deft-handed? Are you that liar
And, cast by conscience out, spendsavour salt?

I think John Donne wrote a poem about the use of a long-tailed pair as a
phase-splitter.

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Old April 24th 06, 01:01 AM posted to rec.audio.tubes,uk.rec.audio,rec.audio.opinion
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Eiron wrote:
paul packer wrote:


I love Andre's posts---I never understand a word. Translation anyone? :-)



It's Andre being brilliantly funny without being malicious, for a change.
Though he is mistaken in his interpretation, as Hopkins was obviously
criticizing valves. Silicon refers to the glass of the tube; shine,
blue-bleak,
embers, vermillion, to his problems with heating his cathodes. He would
have
known of the work of Guthrie and Edison, but transistors were still a
pipe-dream.

Further proof is found in his 'The Candle Indoors' where he bemoans the
short lifespan of valves and has a sly dig at fans of tetrodes:

Come you indoors, come home; your fading fire
Mend first and vital candle in close heart’s vault:
You there are master, do your own desire;
What hinders? Are you beam-blind, yet to a fault
In a neighbour deft-handed? Are you that liar
And, cast by conscience out, spendsavour salt?

I think John Donne wrote a poem about the use of a long-tailed pair as a
phase-splitter.



Jesus didn't appear to like tetrodes all that much either:

"Why do you see the speck of chaff that is in your brother's eye, but
don't consider the beam that is in your own eye?"
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Old April 23rd 06, 02:06 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Andre Jute wrote:


There's no "connection between Jesuits and audiophiles". I don't do
generics; it is enough to lave them to the silicon slime. There is a
clear connection between a particular Jesuit and the audiophile
persausion, as I have disclosed above from parsing his own text.


Surely the word is "paraphrasing" not "parsing". Not very well either.

Roy.

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Old April 23rd 06, 02:08 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Roy
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Jem Raid wrote:



Alas I don't see the connection between Audiophiles and Jesuits


I'm increasingly failing to see the connection between Audiophiles and
audio.

Roy.
 




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