Bose car audio?
 

On 26 Sep 2003 19:57:33 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:53 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 14:20:38 GMT, TCS
wrote:

For £400 (about $US600, right?), you can do a *hell* of a lot better with an
alpine head unit and infinity speakers.

Possibly (or not), but the Bose upgrade system is specifically
tailored to each Audi model, including preset multiband EQ.

And $25 worth of speakers marked up 900%.

No EQ can compensate for paper cone drivers and missing tweeters.

And a functioning brain......................

Perhaps you're not aware that many of the best available speakers have
paper cones, and that the Bose upgrade certainly does have tweeters?
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Bose car audio?
 

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:58:56 +0100, "Stimpy"
wrote:

In article , PJO wrote:
Isn't it sad that you spend all that money on a nice car you then
have to spend more on accessories which should be included as
standard.

I think things like cruise control should be standard spec these
days. All cars are pre-wired anyway so all they do is add a chip to
the ECU and that's about it. Another great rip off is the
autochanger. The car is pre-wired but they want to charge hundreds
of
pounds to plug in a changer which is worth around £100.


To be fair, the new V6 TT includes pretty much everything as
standard - the only extras are things like cupholders, the Bose stereo
and cruise. I do a lot of motorway driving so need the cruise but it
*is* a shame it's about the only thing they don't offer as standard

Hmmmmmmmm. Sorry, but we live in Leicestershire and have family in
North-East Scotland. We go 'oop north' in the A6, not the TT. The A6
3.0 Quattro Sport does have cruise control, and it's a quiet and
refined cruiser, which the TT is not.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Bose car audio?
 

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:58:56 +0100, "Stimpy"
wrote:

In article , PJO wrote:
Isn't it sad that you spend all that money on a nice car you then
have to spend more on accessories which should be included as
standard.

I think things like cruise control should be standard spec these
days. All cars are pre-wired anyway so all they do is add a chip to
the ECU and that's about it. Another great rip off is the
autochanger. The car is pre-wired but they want to charge hundreds
of
pounds to plug in a changer which is worth around £100.


To be fair, the new V6 TT includes pretty much everything as
standard - the only extras are things like cupholders, the Bose stereo
and cruise. I do a lot of motorway driving so need the cruise but it
*is* a shame it's about the only thing they don't offer as standard

Hmmmmmmmm. Sorry, but we live in Leicestershire and have family in
North-East Scotland. We go 'oop north' in the A6, not the TT. The A6
3.0 Quattro Sport does have cruise control, and it's a quiet and
refined cruiser, which the TT is not.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Bose car audio?
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On 26 Sep 2003 19:57:33 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:53 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 14:20:38 GMT, TCS
wrote:

For £400 (about $US600, right?), you can do a *hell* of a lot better
with an
alpine head unit and infinity speakers.

Possibly (or not), but the Bose upgrade system is specifically
tailored to each Audi model, including preset multiband EQ.

And $25 worth of speakers marked up 900%.

No EQ can compensate for paper cone drivers and missing tweeters.

And a functioning brain......................

Perhaps you're not aware that many of the best available speakers have
paper cones, and that the Bose upgrade certainly does have tweeters?



I have various different speakers with Kevlar, Bextrene(?), Polythene and
paper/pulp drivers. The paper cones are the most satisfying with 'my' type
of music by far......

Bose car audio?
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On 26 Sep 2003 19:57:33 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:53 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 14:20:38 GMT, TCS
wrote:

For £400 (about $US600, right?), you can do a *hell* of a lot better
with an
alpine head unit and infinity speakers.

Possibly (or not), but the Bose upgrade system is specifically
tailored to each Audi model, including preset multiband EQ.

And $25 worth of speakers marked up 900%.

No EQ can compensate for paper cone drivers and missing tweeters.

And a functioning brain......................

Perhaps you're not aware that many of the best available speakers have
paper cones, and that the Bose upgrade certainly does have tweeters?



I have various different speakers with Kevlar, Bextrene(?), Polythene and
paper/pulp drivers. The paper cones are the most satisfying with 'my' type
of music by far......

Bose car audio?
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On 26 Sep 2003 19:59:10 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:38 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

Agreed, but unfortunately it's an absolute nightmare retrofitting a
changer to a TT because you have to rip out a lot of the interior.
Definitely a factory fit job! OTOH, I fitted an Alpine changer to my
A4 for £150, and it took about half an hour - including metal-bashing
to extend the bracket for the bigger changer.


Forget using a changer. Get a head unit with an aux input and use
a hard drive mp3 player. My 20G player holds just under 400 albums.

Well, I guess that in a car environment, sound quality isn't really
that much of an issue..................



My view entirely. But the car is one place I get to listen to the radio.

Bose car audio?
 

"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On 26 Sep 2003 19:59:10 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:38 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

Agreed, but unfortunately it's an absolute nightmare retrofitting a
changer to a TT because you have to rip out a lot of the interior.
Definitely a factory fit job! OTOH, I fitted an Alpine changer to my
A4 for £150, and it took about half an hour - including metal-bashing
to extend the bracket for the bigger changer.


Forget using a changer. Get a head unit with an aux input and use
a hard drive mp3 player. My 20G player holds just under 400 albums.

Well, I guess that in a car environment, sound quality isn't really
that much of an issue..................



My view entirely. But the car is one place I get to listen to the radio.

Bose car audio?
 

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:59:31 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 19:57:33 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:53 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 14:20:38 GMT, TCS
wrote:

For £400 (about $US600, right?), you can do a *hell* of a lot better with an
alpine head unit and infinity speakers.

Possibly (or not), but the Bose upgrade system is specifically
tailored to each Audi model, including preset multiband EQ.

And $25 worth of speakers marked up 900%.

No EQ can compensate for paper cone drivers and missing tweeters.

And a functioning brain......................
grow up.

Perhaps you're not aware that many of the best available speakers have
paper cones, and that the Bose upgrade certainly does have tweeters?

They have paper cones impregnated with a strengthening agent. Plain paper
speakers are only seen on applications where spending more than $5 on a driver
is deemed a waste, such as TVs =13", clock radios $30, PCs and bose.

Bose car audio?
 

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:59:31 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 19:57:33 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:53 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 14:20:38 GMT, TCS
wrote:

For £400 (about $US600, right?), you can do a *hell* of a lot better with an
alpine head unit and infinity speakers.

Possibly (or not), but the Bose upgrade system is specifically
tailored to each Audi model, including preset multiband EQ.

And $25 worth of speakers marked up 900%.

No EQ can compensate for paper cone drivers and missing tweeters.

And a functioning brain......................
grow up.

Perhaps you're not aware that many of the best available speakers have
paper cones, and that the Bose upgrade certainly does have tweeters?

They have paper cones impregnated with a strengthening agent. Plain paper
speakers are only seen on applications where spending more than $5 on a driver
is deemed a waste, such as TVs =13", clock radios $30, PCs and bose.

Bose car audio?
 

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:59:29 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 19:59:10 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:38 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Agreed, but unfortunately it's an absolute nightmare retrofitting a
changer to a TT because you have to rip out a lot of the interior.
Definitely a factory fit job! OTOH, I fitted an Alpine changer to my
A4 for £150, and it took about half an hour - including metal-bashing
to extend the bracket for the bigger changer.


Forget using a changer. Get a head unit with an aux input and use
a hard drive mp3 player. My 20G player holds just under 400 albums.

Well, I guess that in a car environment, sound quality isn't really
that much of an issue..................

no ****, sherlock.

Bose car audio?
 

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:59:29 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 19:59:10 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:38 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

Agreed, but unfortunately it's an absolute nightmare retrofitting a
changer to a TT because you have to rip out a lot of the interior.
Definitely a factory fit job! OTOH, I fitted an Alpine changer to my
A4 for £150, and it took about half an hour - including metal-bashing
to extend the bracket for the bigger changer.


Forget using a changer. Get a head unit with an aux input and use
a hard drive mp3 player. My 20G player holds just under 400 albums.

Well, I guess that in a car environment, sound quality isn't really
that much of an issue..................

no ****, sherlock.

Bose car audio?
 

On 26 Sep 2003 23:46:29 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:59:31 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 19:57:33 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:53 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 14:20:38 GMT, TCS
wrote:

For £400 (about $US600, right?), you can do a *hell* of a lot better with an
alpine head unit and infinity speakers.

Possibly (or not), but the Bose upgrade system is specifically
tailored to each Audi model, including preset multiband EQ.

And $25 worth of speakers marked up 900%.

No EQ can compensate for paper cone drivers and missing tweeters.

And a functioning brain......................
grow up.

I will when you do...... :-)

Perhaps you're not aware that many of the best available speakers have
paper cones, and that the Bose upgrade certainly does have tweeters?

They have paper cones impregnated with a strengthening agent. Plain paper
speakers are only seen on applications where spending more than $5 on a driver
is deemed a waste, such as TVs =13", clock radios $30, PCs and bose.

If you *had* a functioning brain, you'd be aware that Bose
manufactures lots of weatherproof drivers for car audio, none of which
have 'plain paper' cones. You'd also be aware of the fact that you
conveniently sidestepped - Bose upgrades for Audis do have tweeters.
Basically, you have no clue what you're talking about, which is pretty
much SOP for you, TCS.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Bose car audio?
 

On 26 Sep 2003 23:46:29 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:59:31 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 19:57:33 GMT, TCS
wrote:

On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:08:53 GMT, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 26 Sep 2003 14:20:38 GMT, TCS
wrote:

For £400 (about $US600, right?), you can do a *hell* of a lot better with an
alpine head unit and infinity speakers.

Possibly (or not), but the Bose upgrade system is specifically
tailored to each Audi model, including preset multiband EQ.

And $25 worth of speakers marked up 900%.

No EQ can compensate for paper cone drivers and missing tweeters.

And a functioning brain......................
grow up.

I will when you do...... :-)

Perhaps you're not aware that many of the best available speakers have
paper cones, and that the Bose upgrade certainly does have tweeters?

They have paper cones impregnated with a strengthening agent. Plain paper
speakers are only seen on applications where spending more than $5 on a driver
is deemed a waste, such as TVs =13", clock radios $30, PCs and bose.

If you *had* a functioning brain, you'd be aware that Bose
manufactures lots of weatherproof drivers for car audio, none of which
have 'plain paper' cones. You'd also be aware of the fact that you
conveniently sidestepped - Bose upgrades for Audis do have tweeters.
Basically, you have no clue what you're talking about, which is pretty
much SOP for you, TCS.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Bose car audio?
 

I have various different speakers with Kevlar, Bextrene(?), Polythene and
paper/pulp drivers. The paper cones are the most satisfying with 'my' type
of music by far......

MMP works for me, at home. Car has paper.

Bose car audio?
 

I have various different speakers with Kevlar, Bextrene(?), Polythene and
paper/pulp drivers. The paper cones are the most satisfying with 'my' type
of music by far......

MMP works for me, at home. Car has paper.

Bose car audio?
 

If you *had* a functioning brain, you'd be aware that Bose
manufactures lots of weatherproof drivers for car audio, none of which
have 'plain paper' cones. You'd also be aware of the fact that you
conveniently sidestepped - Bose upgrades for Audis do have tweeters.
Basically, you have no clue what you're talking about, which is pretty
much SOP for you, TCS.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

He's quite an obnoxious t**t this Stewart Pinkerton, isn't he?! Some of the
comments and criticisms he makes are quite abusive IMHO.

Bose car audio?
 

If you *had* a functioning brain, you'd be aware that Bose
manufactures lots of weatherproof drivers for car audio, none of which
have 'plain paper' cones. You'd also be aware of the fact that you
conveniently sidestepped - Bose upgrades for Audis do have tweeters.
Basically, you have no clue what you're talking about, which is pretty
much SOP for you, TCS.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

He's quite an obnoxious t**t this Stewart Pinkerton, isn't he?! Some of the
comments and criticisms he makes are quite abusive IMHO.

Bose car audio?
 

In article , Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

To be fair, the new V6 TT includes pretty much everything as
standard - the only extras are things like cupholders, the Bose
stereo and cruise. I do a lot of motorway driving so need the
cruise but it
*is* a shame it's about the only thing they don't offer as standard

Hmmmmmmmm. Sorry, but we live in Leicestershire and have family in
North-East Scotland. We go 'oop north' in the A6, not the TT. The A6
3.0 Quattro Sport does have cruise control, and it's a quiet and
refined cruiser, which the TT is not.

....as I mentioned ealier, when compared to my Caterham the TT is a
paragon of silence and refinement :-)))) This is getting a little OT
for here; see you in rec.autos.audi :-)

Bose car audio?
 

In article , Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

To be fair, the new V6 TT includes pretty much everything as
standard - the only extras are things like cupholders, the Bose
stereo and cruise. I do a lot of motorway driving so need the
cruise but it
*is* a shame it's about the only thing they don't offer as standard

Hmmmmmmmm. Sorry, but we live in Leicestershire and have family in
North-East Scotland. We go 'oop north' in the A6, not the TT. The A6
3.0 Quattro Sport does have cruise control, and it's a quiet and
refined cruiser, which the TT is not.

....as I mentioned ealier, when compared to my Caterham the TT is a
paragon of silence and refinement :-)))) This is getting a little OT
for here; see you in rec.autos.audi :-)

Bose car audio?
 

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:28:40 +0100, "PJO"
wrote:

If you *had* a functioning brain, you'd be aware that Bose
manufactures lots of weatherproof drivers for car audio, none of which
have 'plain paper' cones. You'd also be aware of the fact that you
conveniently sidestepped - Bose upgrades for Audis do have tweeters.
Basically, you have no clue what you're talking about, which is pretty
much SOP for you, TCS.

He's quite an obnoxious t**t this Stewart Pinkerton, isn't he?! Some of the
comments and criticisms he makes are quite abusive IMHO.

Perhaps, but they are also accurate..................

What *I* find obnoxious, are ****s who spew ******** without having
any clue what they are talking about.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Bose car audio?
 

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 12:28:40 +0100, "PJO"
wrote:

If you *had* a functioning brain, you'd be aware that Bose
manufactures lots of weatherproof drivers for car audio, none of which
have 'plain paper' cones. You'd also be aware of the fact that you
conveniently sidestepped - Bose upgrades for Audis do have tweeters.
Basically, you have no clue what you're talking about, which is pretty
much SOP for you, TCS.

He's quite an obnoxious t**t this Stewart Pinkerton, isn't he?! Some of the
comments and criticisms he makes are quite abusive IMHO.

Perhaps, but they are also accurate..................

What *I* find obnoxious, are ****s who spew ******** without having
any clue what they are talking about.
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Bose car audio?
 

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:49:50 +0100, "Stimpy"
wrote:

In article , Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

To be fair, the new V6 TT includes pretty much everything as
standard - the only extras are things like cupholders, the Bose
stereo and cruise. I do a lot of motorway driving so need the
cruise but it
*is* a shame it's about the only thing they don't offer as standard

Hmmmmmmmm. Sorry, but we live in Leicestershire and have family in
North-East Scotland. We go 'oop north' in the A6, not the TT. The A6
3.0 Quattro Sport does have cruise control, and it's a quiet and
refined cruiser, which the TT is not.

...as I mentioned ealier, when compared to my Caterham the TT is a
paragon of silence and refinement :-))))

OK, fair enough, my wife's TT wouldn't even see which way a Caterham
went! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Bose car audio?
 

On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 13:49:50 +0100, "Stimpy"
wrote:

In article , Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:

To be fair, the new V6 TT includes pretty much everything as
standard - the only extras are things like cupholders, the Bose
stereo and cruise. I do a lot of motorway driving so need the
cruise but it
*is* a shame it's about the only thing they don't offer as standard

Hmmmmmmmm. Sorry, but we live in Leicestershire and have family in
North-East Scotland. We go 'oop north' in the A6, not the TT. The A6
3.0 Quattro Sport does have cruise control, and it's a quiet and
refined cruiser, which the TT is not.

...as I mentioned ealier, when compared to my Caterham the TT is a
paragon of silence and refinement :-))))

OK, fair enough, my wife's TT wouldn't even see which way a Caterham
went! :-)
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

Bose car audio?
 

"Stimpy" wrote in message
...
Given the general negative vibe about Bose products on this ng I was
wondering if anyone has any experience of living with Bose car audio
products?

Generally, Bose car audio is very good. Mobile audio has technological needs
in areas where Bose is historically (but not now uniquely) very strong.
Unlike virtually every other rebrander of car audio components (that's what
many well-known brands are - rebranders of product actually made by third
parties) Bose has a lot of control over the sound quality of the final
product.

I would think that Bose would be very competitive in the European market
because they actually take car audio very seriously, unlike most European
car manufacturers. Some European manufacturers have realized that they don't
have very good car audio technology and upgrade their sound systems for sale
in the US market. In the US car audio is taken very seriously and is
generally more highly advanced.

In the US a $50,000 car with a mediocre sound system is often considered to
be unsalable. In Europe, this same kind of product is widely available under
a number of well-known brand names.

Bose car audio?
 

"Stimpy" wrote in message
...
Given the general negative vibe about Bose products on this ng I was
wondering if anyone has any experience of living with Bose car audio
products?

Generally, Bose car audio is very good. Mobile audio has technological needs
in areas where Bose is historically (but not now uniquely) very strong.
Unlike virtually every other rebrander of car audio components (that's what
many well-known brands are - rebranders of product actually made by third
parties) Bose has a lot of control over the sound quality of the final
product.

I would think that Bose would be very competitive in the European market
because they actually take car audio very seriously, unlike most European
car manufacturers. Some European manufacturers have realized that they don't
have very good car audio technology and upgrade their sound systems for sale
in the US market. In the US car audio is taken very seriously and is
generally more highly advanced.

In the US a $50,000 car with a mediocre sound system is often considered to
be unsalable. In Europe, this same kind of product is widely available under
a number of well-known brand names.

Bose car audio?
 

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Stimpy" wrote in message
...
Given the general negative vibe about Bose products on this ng I was
wondering if anyone has any experience of living with Bose car audio
products?

Generally, Bose car audio is very good. Mobile audio has technological
needs
in areas where Bose is historically (but not now uniquely) very strong.
Unlike virtually every other rebrander of car audio components (that's
what
many well-known brands are - rebranders of product actually made by third
parties) Bose has a lot of control over the sound quality of the final
product.

I would think that Bose would be very competitive in the European market
because they actually take car audio very seriously, unlike most European
car manufacturers. Some European manufacturers have realized that they
don't
have very good car audio technology and upgrade their sound systems for
sale
in the US market. In the US car audio is taken very seriously and is
generally more highly advanced.

In the US a $50,000 car with a mediocre sound system is often considered
to
be unsalable. In Europe, this same kind of product is widely available
under
a number of well-known brand names.



Yes, but there again Europe - and especially the UK - generally has radio
stations that are worth listening to!


--
Woody

Bose car audio?
 

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
...

"Stimpy" wrote in message
...
Given the general negative vibe about Bose products on this ng I was
wondering if anyone has any experience of living with Bose car audio
products?

Generally, Bose car audio is very good. Mobile audio has technological
needs
in areas where Bose is historically (but not now uniquely) very strong.
Unlike virtually every other rebrander of car audio components (that's
what
many well-known brands are - rebranders of product actually made by third
parties) Bose has a lot of control over the sound quality of the final
product.

I would think that Bose would be very competitive in the European market
because they actually take car audio very seriously, unlike most European
car manufacturers. Some European manufacturers have realized that they
don't
have very good car audio technology and upgrade their sound systems for
sale
in the US market. In the US car audio is taken very seriously and is
generally more highly advanced.

In the US a $50,000 car with a mediocre sound system is often considered
to
be unsalable. In Europe, this same kind of product is widely available
under
a number of well-known brand names.



Yes, but there again Europe - and especially the UK - generally has radio
stations that are worth listening to!


--
Woody