Bi Wire Cable - How To Extend
 

I have a Micro Hifi with Biwired speakers. As with most of these things, the
cable is fixed to the speakers and is hopelessly short so I would like to
extend. Do I need to use Biwire cable to do this and what is the best way to
do this?

Thanks
Norman

Bi Wire Cable - How To Extend
 

On Thu, 4 May 2006 11:00:45 +0100, "Norman" wrote:

I have a Micro Hifi with Biwired speakers. As with most of these things, the
cable is fixed to the speakers and is hopelessly short so I would like to
extend. Do I need to use Biwire cable to do this and what is the best way to
do this?

Thanks
Norman

If you are only extending a few more feet, any old wire will do - just
make sure you can identify which is which. If they are going to be
really long, make the wire reasonably thick.

That's all

d

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Bi Wire Cable - How To Extend
 

"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Thu, 4 May 2006 11:00:45 +0100, "Norman" wrote:

I have a Micro Hifi with Biwired speakers. As with most of these things,
the
cable is fixed to the speakers and is hopelessly short so I would like to
extend. Do I need to use Biwire cable to do this and what is the best way
to
do this?

Thanks
Norman

If you are only extending a few more feet, any old wire will do - just
make sure you can identify which is which. If they are going to be
really long, make the wire reasonably thick.

That's all

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com


Thanks, one is only going up a few feet whilst the other will be off to the
other side of the room ( about 11 feet)


Norman

Bi Wire Cable - How To Extend
 

On Thu, 4 May 2006 11:00:45 +0100, "Norman" wrote:

I have a Micro Hifi with Biwired speakers. As with most of these things, the
cable is fixed to the speakers and is hopelessly short so I would like to
extend. Do I need to use Biwire cable to do this and what is the best way to
do this?

The biwiring is doubtless merely a gimmick. But sure, extend whatever
wiring there is. If there are 16 cables leading to the speaker,
splice in 16 cables. What else?

Bi Wire Cable - How To Extend
 

On Thu, 4 May 2006 11:10:24 +0100, "Norman" wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Thu, 4 May 2006 11:00:45 +0100, "Norman" wrote:

I have a Micro Hifi with Biwired speakers. As with most of these things,
the
cable is fixed to the speakers and is hopelessly short so I would like to
extend. Do I need to use Biwire cable to do this and what is the best way
to
do this?

Thanks
Norman

If you are only extending a few more feet, any old wire will do - just
make sure you can identify which is which. If they are going to be
really long, make the wire reasonably thick.

That's all

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com


Thanks, one is only going up a few feet whilst the other will be off to the
other side of the room ( about 11 feet)


Norman

Any old wire will do for 11 feet. Got any old phone or networking
cable? That will have all you need in one covering.

d

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http://www.pearce.uk.com

Bi Wire Cable - How To Extend
 

"Laurence Payne" lpayneNOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message
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On Thu, 4 May 2006 11:00:45 +0100, "Norman" wrote:

I have a Micro Hifi with Biwired speakers. As with most of these things,
the
cable is fixed to the speakers and is hopelessly short so I would like to
extend. Do I need to use Biwire cable to do this and what is the best way
to
do this?

The biwiring is doubtless merely a gimmick. But sure, extend whatever
wiring there is. If there are 16 cables leading to the speaker,
splice in 16 cables. What else?

I agree that bi-wiring is a total gimmick, but active operation isn't. It's
interesting that some of the micro-systems around these days use electronic
crossovers and separate power amps for treble and bass. That means that the
'speakers don't have crossovers in them. I'm sure it's done totally for
reasons of economy, but it's good to see that cheese-paring economics can
also result in a better engineering solution.

S.

Bi Wire Cable - How To Extend
 

On Thu, 04 May 2006 10:28:43 GMT, Don Pearce wrote:


On Thu, 4 May 2006 11:10:24 +0100, "Norman" wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 4 May 2006 11:00:45 +0100, "Norman" wrote:

I have a Micro Hifi with Biwired speakers. As with most of these things,
the
cable is fixed to the speakers and is hopelessly short so I would like to
extend. Do I need to use Biwire cable to do this and what is the best way
to
do this?

Thanks
Norman

If you are only extending a few more feet, any old wire will do - just
make sure you can identify which is which. If they are going to be
really long, make the wire reasonably thick.

That's all

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com


Thanks, one is only going up a few feet whilst the other will be off to the
other side of the room ( about 11 feet)


Norman

Any old wire will do for 11 feet. Got any old phone or networking
cable? That will have all you need in one covering.

Sure, if you don't mind losing half your power to the wire and having your
setup sound like crap. All the advantages of buying Bose. Maybe a trip to
an audiophile store would be in order if you're looking for the most
mediocre and distorted sound possible. It would not only give you that
special feeling of pride that comes from using junk room wire playing
MacGyver, but would also let you have the special of pride that comes from
having spent too much.

If you're not looking for a terrible sounding system, just go to the
hardware store and get some 14-16 guage speaker wire. Solder the connection
if you or a friend has the skills.

Bi Wire Cable - How To Extend
 

Serge Auckland wrote:

I agree that bi-wiring is a total gimmick

Actually, it's not.

In experiments a while back I determined that there was a difference
between single and bi-wiring, but I couldn't hear a difference between
bi-wiring and bi-amping. (Which, for the benefit of the "it's all in
your mind" crowd, *implies* bi-wiring as well.)

Mind you, with the setup the original poster is describing, it may well
be a gimmick...

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Bi Wire Cable - How To Extend
 

"Glenn Richards" wrote in message
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Serge Auckland wrote:

I agree that bi-wiring is a total gimmick

Actually, it's not.

In experiments a while back I determined that there was a difference
between single and bi-wiring, but I couldn't hear a difference between
bi-wiring and bi-amping. (Which, for the benefit of the "it's all in your
mind" crowd, *implies* bi-wiring as well.)

Mind you, with the setup the original poster is describing, it may well be
a gimmick...

By using bi-amping or tri-amping in conjunction with frequency and phase
correction crossover equipment available now you have the ability to have
very flat frequency response, very accurate phasing of the drivers to each
other, and up to 300db/octave crossover slope to minimise driver dispersion
interaction. Drivers can be used within their optimum frequency range. The
equipment has the ability to self calibrate to correct for phase and
frequency response due to different driver sensitivity, etc. This technology
is being taken up by many of the worlds speaker manufactuers and is already
in common use in modern sound studios. Bi or Tri-amping using this
technology has proven to be a major step foward in speaker technology.

Have a look at www.deqx.com

Bi Wire Cable - How To Extend
 

Glenn Richards wrote:
Serge Auckland wrote:

I agree that bi-wiring is a total gimmick

Actually, it's not.

In experiments a while back I determined that there was a difference
between single and bi-wiring, but I couldn't hear a difference between
bi-wiring and bi-amping. (Which, for the benefit of the "it's all in
your mind" crowd, *implies* bi-wiring as well.)

Mind you, with the setup the original poster is describing, it may well
be a gimmick...

Actually it is!

Just do the sums. All you are doing when bi-wiring is reducing the
resistance of the 'speaker leads and increasing the capacitance. These
are already pretty low unless you're using a very weird speaker cable.
Inductance here is hardly relevant.

Similarly bi-amping whilst still using the passive crossover in the
'speakers is equally pointless. All you're doing in this case is to
reduce the amount of current taken by each power amp as each is only
driving a limited frequency range. If that really does make a difference
the power amps in question are seriously flawed. Bi-amping with
electronic crossovers makes a great deal of difference for all the
reasons APR commented.

I would very much like to see a DBT on bi-wiring or bi-amping that shows
that the difference can be heard. The sums just don't point to that
possibility.

S.