Digital volume control question....
 

"Rob" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:


What about the little placky grilles - do they look OK?


Well, they do look a *little* bit like standard fit mid-70s Datsun :-)



'Datsun Grilles' it is then - you have christened an item of audio equipment
for posterity!! :-)

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Keith G wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:


What about the little placky grilles - do they look OK?

Well, they do look a *little* bit like standard fit mid-70s Datsun :-)



'Datsun Grilles' it is then - you have christened an item of audio equipment
for posterity!! :-)


My 15 minutes at last! In fact, given the price/demand for retro-Jap
stuff you could be on a roll - now, finish them in fake walnut veneer :-)

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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 14:09:13 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Rob" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:


What about the little placky grilles - do they look OK?


Well, they do look a *little* bit like standard fit mid-70s Datsun :-)

'Datsun Grilles' it is then - you have christened an item of audio equipment
for posterity!! :-)

Oi remembers when the cargo door broke loose on that plane bringing
gearbox parts from Japan - it were raining Datsun cogs!
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:47:59 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Don Pearce" wrote in message
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On Fri, 02 Jun 2006 06:37:52 +0100, Stewart Pinkerton
wrote:


Not to be pedantic about this, but I'm from Montrose, and an Arbroath
smokie is *not* a kipper. Kippers are herrings, an Arbroath smokie is
a haddock. To rotate back to a musical theme, essentially the same as
Peggy Lee called a 'fine Finnan Haddie', which hails originally from
Findon, further up the coast.


No, this is a kipper:

http://www.unionjackwear.co.uk/image...orgekipper.jpg

(That one is in nice St. Chav colours! :-)

Luvverly, and just in time for England to go out in the first round
again...... :-)

Was that a haddock? Bugger me - I've spent the last twenty years in a
state of confusion over me fish (and me a Faroe man and all!). Oh well
- so where do they make kippers, then?

Anywhere, it's a generic term. Got one back on the Eurobuggers with
Arbroath Smokies though - they have to be produced within ten miles of
Arbroath town centre, or you can't call them Arbroath Smokies.

Taiwan, probably.....

You wouldn't be surprised, as smoking preserves the fish, so they
could be from anywhere.

(How TF does he manage to turn a thread about 'digital volume controls'
into
a discussion about *fish*?? It must be Alzheimers....!! :-)

I thought it was supposed to be good for the brain.

Nah, he likes valves and horns!

Now, now. We must make room for all here.

Certainly - s'not like it's overcrowded in here, izzit??

It will be if Keith keeps churning out those fekkin' great horns! It
also just occured to me that you can get a housefull of vinyl into one
digital music server, even uncompressed 16/44..............
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:47:59 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:



http://www.unionjackwear.co.uk/image...orgekipper.jpg

(That one is in nice St. Chav colours! :-)

Luvverly, and just in time for England to go out in the first round
again...... :-)



At risk of making myself sound like one of the ageing Quad Squad who drift
round here once a year to correct our spelling &c,. I'd simply say you'll
have a hard job finding anyone who cared less about that than I do....!!
;-)



Now, now. We must make room for all here.

Certainly - s'not like it's overcrowded in here, izzit??

It will be if Keith keeps churning out those fekkin' great horns!


It can't be ruled out - this lot arrived yesterday!! :-)


It
also just occured to me that you can get a housefull of vinyl into one
digital music server, even uncompressed 16/44..............


Hmm, if I haven't got a digital point in the wrong place, I reckon I'd need
2.4 Tb...!!!

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"Rob" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
...
Keith G wrote:


What about the little placky grilles - do they look OK?

Well, they do look a *little* bit like standard fit mid-70s Datsun :-)



'Datsun Grilles' it is then - you have christened an item of audio
equipment for posterity!! :-)


My 15 minutes at last! In fact, given the price/demand for retro-Jap stuff
you could be on a roll - now, finish them in fake walnut veneer :-)


And supply a pair of giant furry dice with each pair!! :-)

(Now, where's me flares......???)

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Keith G wrote:
"Rob" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:

"Rob" wrote in message
...

Keith G wrote:


What about the little placky grilles - do they look OK?


Well, they do look a *little* bit like standard fit mid-70s Datsun :-)



'Datsun Grilles' it is then - you have christened an item of audio
equipment for posterity!! :-)


My 15 minutes at last! In fact, given the price/demand for retro-Jap stuff
you could be on a roll - now, finish them in fake walnut veneer :-)



And supply a pair of giant furry dice with each pair!! :-)

(Now, where's me flares......???)

You left them at the Montreux Casino after that Zappa concert in 1971.


--
Eiron

No good deed ever goes unpunished.

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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 18:59:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:47:59 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:



http://www.unionjackwear.co.uk/image...orgekipper.jpg

(That one is in nice St. Chav colours! :-)

Luvverly, and just in time for England to go out in the first round
again...... :-)



At risk of making myself sound like one of the ageing Quad Squad who drift
round here once a year to correct our spelling &c,. I'd simply say you'll
have a hard job finding anyone who cared less about that than I do....!!
;-)



Now, now. We must make room for all here.

Certainly - s'not like it's overcrowded in here, izzit??

It will be if Keith keeps churning out those fekkin' great horns!


It can't be ruled out - this lot arrived yesterday!! :-)


It
also just occured to me that you can get a housefull of vinyl into one
digital music server, even uncompressed 16/44..............


Hmm, if I haven't got a digital point in the wrong place, I reckon I'd need
2.4 Tb...!!!

Dabs.com are selling 512GB USB hard drives for less than £200.....
--

Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering

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In article . com,
Andy Evans wrote:
As to audio quality, a conductive plastic pot will have zero effect on
audio quality.

Here's another view from Allen Wright (designs amps)
"Vishay cermet are good. One of the biggest con acts has been the
pushing of conductive plastic pots to the audio industry. I don't care
what the brand is - if they make a CP and a cermet (or even a quality
carbon) then my experience is that the cermet KILLS the CP for sonic
quality. The VISHAY cerment (made by their french wing Sfernice))
sounds. like two good fixed resistors, the identical looking CP sounds
like ****! Allen

Sorry to be late replying, but pretty well everything feeding his amps
will have gone through conductive plastic pots on the mixer used for the
recording...

--
*Sherlock Holmes never said "Elementary, my dear Watson" *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 18:59:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


Hmm, if I haven't got a digital point in the wrong place, I reckon I'd
need
2.4 Tb...!!!

Dabs.com are selling 512GB USB hard drives for less than £200.....



And 750 Gb disks for £275, but I doubt I have enough time left *myself* to
'digitise' about 4,000 LPs!!

(The TB hard disks can't be far away now....!!??)

Digital volume control question....
 

On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 12:55:59 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article . com,
Andy Evans wrote:
As to audio quality, a conductive plastic pot will have zero effect on
audio quality.

Here's another view from Allen Wright (designs amps)
"Vishay cermet are good. One of the biggest con acts has been the
pushing of conductive plastic pots to the audio industry. I don't care
what the brand is - if they make a CP and a cermet (or even a quality
carbon) then my experience is that the cermet KILLS the CP for sonic
quality. The VISHAY cerment (made by their french wing Sfernice))
sounds. like two good fixed resistors, the identical looking CP sounds
like ****! Allen

Sorry to be late replying, but pretty well everything feeding his amps
will have gone through conductive plastic pots on the mixer used for the
recording...

Exactly. The guy is full of it. I use a Penny&Giles CP pot on my main
music system, I've used switched attenuators with Holco H4 metal films
and also with Vishay bulk metal resistors (technically the very best
at *any* price), I've used Bourns military grade cermet pots, and my
TV system uses an Alps 'Black Beauty' carbon pot. They are *all*
sonically indistinguishable. Basically, as with wire=wire, a resistor
is a resistor............

--

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On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:22:07 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 18:59:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


Hmm, if I haven't got a digital point in the wrong place, I reckon I'd
need
2.4 Tb...!!!

Dabs.com are selling 512GB USB hard drives for less than £200.....

And 750 Gb disks for £275, but I doubt I have enough time left *myself* to
'digitise' about 4,000 LPs!!

(The TB hard disks can't be far away now....!!??)

Already here, mate:
http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx...1026&InMerch=1


However, as you say, it's the real time needed to digitise 4,000 LPs
that kills ya!
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:22:07 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006 18:59:34 +0100, "Keith G"
wrote:


Hmm, if I haven't got a digital point in the wrong place, I reckon I'd
need
2.4 Tb...!!!

Dabs.com are selling 512GB USB hard drives for less than £200.....

And 750 Gb disks for £275, but I doubt I have enough time left *myself* to
'digitise' about 4,000 LPs!!

(The TB hard disks can't be far away now....!!??)

Already here, mate:
http://www.dabs.com/ProductView.aspx...1026&InMerch=1


That's a nifty bit of kit, but I was referring to standard 3.5" (internal)
HDDs.



However, as you say, it's the real time needed to digitise 4,000 LPs
that kills ya!


I've no intention of digitising anything other than what I want specifically
to play in the car, but there is the option to record everything you play on
a 'might as well' basis, if you have got enough storage - whether or not you
ever get round to doing anything with it!!

One thing's for sure, disregarding personal preference issues for a moment,
there is a lot of music on existing LPs that will never be performed (or
recorded) better than it already has been!!

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Sorry to be late replying, but pretty well everything feeding his amps
will have gone through conductive plastic pots on the mixer used for
the recording...

Most digital mixers now don't run the signal through any pots, and if the EQ
is switched out neither do many analogue mixers...


--
For the grass has not yet sprouted where my high heel has trodden

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Iain Churches wrote:

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
Andy Evans wrote:
As to audio quality, a conductive plastic pot will have zero effect on
audio quality.

Here's another view from Allen Wright (designs amps)
"Vishay cermet are good. One of the biggest con acts has been the
pushing of conductive plastic pots to the audio industry. I don't care
what the brand is - if they make a CP and a cermet (or even a quality
carbon) then my experience is that the cermet KILLS the CP for sonic
quality. The VISHAY cerment (made by their french wing Sfernice))
sounds. like two good fixed resistors, the identical looking CP sounds
like ****! Allen

Sorry to be late replying, but pretty well everything feeding his amps
will have gone through conductive plastic pots on the mixer used for the
recording...

Dave. are you are trying to lead the poor man astray:-)
Professional studio consoles have DC control voltages,
not audio on faders, pans and EQ pots.

Is this some kind of *Joke* Iain ?

Most pro-audio *does not* use DC controlled gain elements. Even where a console
has VCA fader automation, all the other pots handle analogue signals.

Just looking at the schematic of a Studer desk. The only place where
audio appears on the "control surface" is at the monitor panel.

Now look at a more typical one. FWIW I've never even seen a single Studer
console in my whole life. They are hardly very popular. Whereas I've seen many
Neves for example.

A nice touch on the Studer console is that the faders are mounted
on their side, with the slider controlled by a V slot in the lever.
So, if liquid is accidentally poured on the console surface,
it cannot enter the fader unit.

This is done on many good faders.

Graham