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Keith G June 14th 06 11:57 AM

Firewood Horns Vs. Tannoys
 

Just in case anyone is interested.....

A conversation with one here had me looking at Ebay for a pair of Tannoy
609s and I found a pair with only a couple of hours to go (as you do..) - I
grabbed them for a *midweek bargain price* to compare them and, ultimately,
rip the drivers out of them for a speaker project. (Believe me, it ain't the
drivers muchachos - it's the cabinets...)

Well, for a kick-off (oops), ripping them apart is out of the question -
they are far too good for that. So it's a case of comparing them with the
Firewood Horns...

http://www.apah69.dsl.pipex.com/show/speakers.JPG

The Jerichos (new, improved with different drivers) hump them off in a
heartbeat as they would a lot off stuff I expect, but the Pinkies (Buschhorn
Mk 2) and the Tannoys are so damn similar I cannot yet put one before the
other. A couple of visitors (including one here) have been unable to pick a
'best' yet either - including a Tannoy owner and advocate.

For 'similar' read different - the image moves back and forth, but the range
is strangely similar and clarity/bass supremacy kinda swaps back and forth
on different sources/music, but once away from them (throughout the house)
it's impossible to tell which ones are on, if you don't actually
*know*....!!!

Bad for Tannoy? - No, they are *super* speakers.

Good for the Pinkies? - You tell me.....



tony sayer June 15th 06 06:49 PM

Firewood Horns Vs. Tannoys
 
In article , Iain Churches
writes

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

Just in case anyone is interested.....


(snip)

Most interested.

The 609 is not regarded as a "proper" Tannoy:-) It
was near the bottom of the range, had an 8 inch
driver and was produced for a very short time some
15 years ago IIRC.

If you are interested in "serious" Tannoys, you should audition
something from the Prestige series, Keith. For example the
Westminster Royals, a horn-loaded design with their 15 inch
dual concentric driver, and a cabinet of 535 litres.
Now they *are* impressive. Sensitivity 99dB and a response
16Hz to 22kHz (-6dB)

A musician acquaintance in Sweden has sold his Quad electrostatics
and bought a pair of these. He is now "rediscovering" his LP/CD
collection, and the single chair which was set up on blocks in
the narrow sweet spot has been replaced by a huge four-seater
leather sofa.

Two firm favourites from the oldies range are the Canterbury and the
Lancaster. There is a new version of the Canterbury, which I have
heard on several occasion, and like very much.

One of the most sought after of the old models is the GRF - many
owners of SET systems buy them. There is a modern version of this
available. I have no idea what the new ones cost, but the originals
in good condition go for the price of a new family car, and are sold as
soon as they appear.

The push pull "heavies" go for the Lockwood Major



Serious doo=dah!..

(15" Tannoy Dual concentric) There were a lot of these built,
and many are still in daily use in studios. They are rarely seen
for sale second hand.



And I near enough gave my 15" monitor Golds away:((((((((((((((((((

I have four pairs of Tannoy Red Monitors, with 12" dual
concentrics, which I bought for silly money from an audio
post production facility that was relocating. I use two
pairs in parallel in my workshop. Jethro Tull like you
never heard it befo-)


I bet!.....

Iain










--
Tony Sayer


Eiron June 15th 06 07:42 PM

Firewood Horns Vs. Tannoys
 
Iain Churches wrote:

The 609 is not regarded as a "proper" Tannoy:-) It
was near the bottom of the range, had an 8 inch
driver and was produced for a very short time some
15 years ago IIRC.


The Monitor Gold owners probably look down their noses at you,
just as you do at us, and we do at those whose Tannoys are not even DCs.

I have four pairs of Tannoy Red Monitors, with 12" dual
concentrics, which I bought for silly money from an audio
post production facility that was relocating. I use two
pairs in parallel in my workshop. Jethro Tull like you
never heard it befo-)


It rather defeats the purpose of dual-concentrics to stack them.
That would be like stacking ESL63s. Better to put one at each corner
and listen to some DVD-Audio 4-channel remasters.

--
Eiron

No good deed ever goes unpunished.

Dave xxxx June 16th 06 07:15 PM

Firewood Horns Vs. Tannoys
 
Iain Churches wrote:
" If you are interested in "serious" Tannoys, you should audition
something from the Prestige series, Keith.


He is right you know I love my Turnberrys, very nice
have also been test driving the Westminsters
I think I will keep the Turnberrys as with the Supertweeters ST200

http://www.davewhitter.pwp.blueyonde...nnoyst200.jpeg

http://www.davewhitter.pwp.blueyonde...pertweeter.htm
Bit dear but worth it



--
Dave
www.davewhitter.myby.co.uk

Music is Art - Audio is Engineering
Steam is Fun



Keith G June 17th 06 04:01 PM

Firewood Horns Vs. Tannoys
 

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

Just in case anyone is interested.....


(snip)

Most interested.

The 609 is not regarded as a "proper" Tannoy:-) It
was near the bottom of the range, had an 8 inch
driver and was produced for a very short time some
15 years ago IIRC.

If you are interested in "serious" Tannoys, you should audition
something from the Prestige series, Keith. For example the
Westminster Royals, a horn-loaded design with their 15 inch
dual concentric driver, and a cabinet of 535 litres.
Now they *are* impressive. Sensitivity 99dB and a response
16Hz to 22kHz (-6dB)



Sure, if it was easily 'doable' I'd like to hear them - as it is, it's a bit
like Trevor's 'you need to hear a VT100'....!! ;-)

Anyway, I'm 'winning' a pair of Lowther drivers atm - funded by the stuff
that's starting to go in my bumper clear-out!!

(Probably ****e but, boy don't it just wind people up when you mention
you've got Lowthers!! :-))











Iain Churches June 18th 06 02:23 PM

Firewood Horns Vs. Tannoys
 

"Eiron" wrote in message
...

The Monitor Gold owners probably look down their noses at you,

(snip)

Until I show them the pair of *original*and pristine
Lancasters (with Golds) :-)
Iain




Iain Churches June 18th 06 02:31 PM

Firewood Horns Vs. Tannoys
 

" Dave xxxx" wrote in message
. uk...
Iain Churches wrote:
" If you are interested in "serious" Tannoys, you should audition
something from the Prestige series, Keith.


He is right you know I love my Turnberrys, very nice
have also been test driving the Westminsters
I think I will keep the Turnberrys as with the Supertweeters ST200

http://www.davewhitter.pwp.blueyonde...nnoyst200.jpeg

http://www.davewhitter.pwp.blueyonde...pertweeter.htm
Bit dear but worth it



--
Dave
www.davewhitter.myby.co.uk



Dave. The Turnberrys are *excellent*. A good friend of mine,
a music teacher, has a pair. He didn't sleep for three nights after they
were delivered:-)

It would be interesting to compare them with the original Lancasters, but
as he and I live 300 kms apart, the logistics are not simple to arrange.
I am told, there are more pairs of Westminsters in Sweden than in the UK.
Lowther has a strong following there too.

Smart people these Svenssons:-)

Iain



Iain Churches June 18th 06 04:54 PM

Firewood Horns Vs. Tannoys
 

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"Iain Churches" wrote in message
...

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

Just in case anyone is interested.....


(snip)

Most interested.

The 609 is not regarded as a "proper" Tannoy:-) It
was near the bottom of the range, had an 8 inch
driver and was produced for a very short time some
15 years ago IIRC.

If you are interested in "serious" Tannoys, you should audition
something from the Prestige series, Keith. For example the
Westminster Royals, a horn-loaded design with their 15 inch
dual concentric driver, and a cabinet of 535 litres.
Now they *are* impressive. Sensitivity 99dB and a response
16Hz to 22kHz (-6dB)



Sure, if it was easily 'doable' I'd like to hear them - as it is, it's a
bit like Trevor's 'you need to hear a VT100'....!! ;-)


A good excuse for a day out in Londinium:-)
Mention you are coming down expressly to hear the Westminsters
and they will probably roll our the red carpet for you.

Anyway, I'm 'winning' a pair of Lowther drivers atm - funded by the stuff
that's starting to go in my bumper clear-out!!


Hey. That's the best news for a long time.

(Probably ****e but, boy don't it just wind people up when you mention
you've got Lowthers!! :-))


Let us know when you get them.

Iain




Dave xxxx June 18th 06 05:28 PM

Firewood Horns Vs. Tannoys
 
Iain Churches
Dave. The Turnberrys are *excellent*. A good friend of mine,
a music teacher, has a pair. He didn't sleep for three nights
after
they were delivered:-)

It would be interesting to compare them with the original
Lancasters,
but as he and I live 300 kms apart, the logistics are not simple to
arrange. I am told, there are more pairs of Westminsters in Sweden
than in the UK. Lowther has a strong following there too.

Smart people these Svenssons:-)

Iain


They are a great speaker, yes more Westminsters in Sweden than UK they
have bigger living rooms.

Yet the country with the most is Japan and there living rooms are
smaller than here
The only person I know in UK with a set, has them in a room same size
as my office
lol



Don Pearce June 18th 06 05:31 PM

Firewood Horns Vs. Tannoys
 
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:28:50 GMT, " Dave xxxx"
wrote:

Iain Churches
Dave. The Turnberrys are *excellent*. A good friend of mine,
a music teacher, has a pair. He didn't sleep for three nights
after
they were delivered:-)

It would be interesting to compare them with the original
Lancasters,
but as he and I live 300 kms apart, the logistics are not simple to
arrange. I am told, there are more pairs of Westminsters in Sweden
than in the UK. Lowther has a strong following there too.

Smart people these Svenssons:-)

Iain


They are a great speaker, yes more Westminsters in Sweden than UK they
have bigger living rooms.

Yet the country with the most is Japan and there living rooms are
smaller than here
The only person I know in UK with a set, has them in a room same size
as my office
lol

And of course we all know how big that is!

d

--
Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com


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