Esther Lamandier: L'Esprit de Dieu et les Prophetes Alienor AL1061
(distr Harmonia Mundi)

These are a capella renditions of the words in Hebrew of the Old
Testament, according to Suzanne Haik-Vantoura's reconstruction of how
the Rabbis of old sang them.

Andre Jute
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Andrew Jute McCoy Crap Clipped

Give it up, charlatan.

At this point, if you were to endorse Motherhood, Apple Pie and
Shamrocks, those institutions would suffer an instant drop in trust and
popularity amongst the readers in this venue.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

Andre Jute wrote:

Esther Lamandier: L'Esprit de Dieu et les Prophetes Alienor AL1061
(distr Harmonia Mundi)

Sisters of Mercy - A Slight Case of Overbombing.

( distr Merciful Release )

Graham

Andre Jute wrote:

These are a capella renditions of the words in Hebrew of the Old
Testament, according to Suzanne Haik-Vantoura's reconstruction of how
the Rabbis of old sang them.

Stick it up your jumper you old fogey !

Graham

Stick it up your jumper you old fogey !

Graham

Oh, COME ON, Graham. Get with the program. It has nothing to do with
the scholarly history of the music or its pretentions to such.

Unaccompanied voice is one of the very few possible sources that has
even the smallest chance of sounding remotely passable on a SET driven,
single-driver system. Hence its quickly acquired "meaningful" status.
The last bit of "meaningful" music this accretion of unsupported
fantasies was touting was poorly recorded Gregorian Chant... another
stellar source for such systems.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

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ups.com...
Stick it up your jumper you old fogey !

Graham

Oh, COME ON, Graham. Get with the program. It has nothing to do with
the scholarly history of the music or its pretentions to such.

Unaccompanied voice is one of the very few possible sources that has
even the smallest chance of sounding remotely passable on a SET driven,
single-driver system. Hence its quickly acquired "meaningful" status.
The last bit of "meaningful" music this accretion of unsupported
fantasies was touting was poorly recorded Gregorian Chant... another
stellar source for such systems.


As I was reading the above Allegri's Miserere was playing on the radio (SS
amp, Firewood Horn speakers) - a perfect example of what you are trying to
describe, I think. How's that for a coincidence? (In reality, one of the
pieces that is thrashed to death on Brit Classic FM radio, to the
continued/continuing exclusion of lesser-known works of equal quality....)

Which leads me to make this observation - I don't believe for a moment
SET/Horn setups only do 'vocal'. If that was the case I'd have no use for
them! A perfect example - earlier on I was listening to an unusal Polish
recording of Szymanowski's Violin Concerto No. 1 by Zachar Bron ('Muza'
label - SX 1536).

I had played it last night and needed to hear it again today (as you do) and
was wracked with the incredible *sweetness* of it and thought how sad it was
that many people are never going to get to hear it, or at least, not like I
was hearing it....??

I dunno. Must be me, I must be going deaf...???

Which leads me to make this observation - I don't believe for a moment
SET/Horn setups only do 'vocal'. If that was the case I'd have no use for
them! A perfect example - earlier on I was listening to an unusal Polish
recording of Szymanowski's Violin Concerto No. 1 by Zachar Bron ('Muza'
label - SX 1536).

I dunno. Must be me, I must be going deaf...???

Didn't suggest or imply "only", but "few". A set/horn system won't do
much with the Saint-Saens Organ Symphony, Bach's B- Mass, even Mozart's
"Sparrow Mass"; trumpets in general, or anything with kettledrums. But
frequency-limited sources with a similarly limited peak-to-average will
come out just fine.

As to "deaf", I went through a hearing test lately as part of an
overall physical, I am down 3dB at 17khz, 10dB at 18khz... the last
time I went through the same drill (30 years ago at age 24), I was down
3dB at 18khz... But then, I wore ear-valves (frequency-sensitive
ear-plugs) at concerts and proper ear protection when shooting. But we
are all going there. I knew I was over the hill when I finally admitted
to bifocals.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA

wrote in message
oups.com...

Which leads me to make this observation - I don't believe for a moment
SET/Horn setups only do 'vocal'. If that was the case I'd have no use for
them! A perfect example - earlier on I was listening to an unusal Polish
recording of Szymanowski's Violin Concerto No. 1 by Zachar Bron ('Muza'
label - SX 1536).

I dunno. Must be me, I must be going deaf...???

Didn't suggest or imply "only", but "few". A set/horn system won't do
much with the Saint-Saens Organ Symphony,


Damn, I'm cleaning all my records and am out of order for the moment (that's
a major reorganisation of 3-4,000 LPs!) and I know I cleaned a nice-looking
version of that a few days ago. I'll come back on it when I have found it
and played it. Otherwise, it's my SET and horns that was described as 'the
best drum sound I have ever heard' by a friend who works in a hifi shop a
few months ago - *and* I've put better drivers in since! That was back on
Fostex drivers and even I would say they don't do **bass*!!


Bach's B- Mass, even Mozart's
"Sparrow Mass"; trumpets in general, or anything with kettledrums.


So **not** my own experience...??? I just don't understand this??


But
frequency-limited sources with a similarly limited peak-to-average will
come out just fine.

As to "deaf", I went through a hearing test lately as part of an
overall physical, I am down 3dB at 17khz, 10dB at 18khz... the last
time I went through the same drill (30 years ago at age 24), I was down
3dB at 18khz... But then, I wore ear-valves (frequency-sensitive
ear-plugs) at concerts and proper ear protection when shooting. But we
are all going there. I knew I was over the hill when I finally admitted
to bifocals.


I dropped shooting like a stone a good while back - the game shooting
because I suddenly reakised what I was doing and clays I just drifted away
from (Sunday mornings - not a good time for me). The pistol target-shooting
I had stopped a while before that, I was Club Secretary of a 'Rifle Club'
which only shot pistols!!

Anyway, thank goodness I did - a friend of mine who continued long after I
stopped, is now quite deaf!!

I had a tone generator on the computer a while back and can only claim to
have been definitely able to hear the 14,252 (??) setting, but thankfully if
I'm out in the garden with Swim, it's me who hears the phone - and she is 13
years younger than me!! :-)

"Keith G" writes:
Szymanowski's Violin Concerto No. 1 by Zachar Bron ('Muza' label - SX 1536)

You put your finger on something with Szymanowski, Keith. Also try
Lutoslawski. There more Poles than one would expect who write good
music. It has something to do with their Catholicism. I concluded quite
a while ago (in conversation with John Tavener as it happens but I was
headed there anyway by simple dull statistical analysis) that among the
living composers the only ones really worth listening to believe in God
or are at least religious in some sense, even if only of strong
religious background.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/C...MFTavener.html
http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/C...20Rozario.html

Andre Jute
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Andre Jute wrote:
Esther Lamandier: L'Esprit de Dieu et les Prophetes Alienor AL1061
(distr Harmonia Mundi)

These are a capella renditions of the words in Hebrew of the Old
Testament, according to Suzanne Haik-Vantoura's reconstruction of how
the Rabbis of old sang them.

Andre Jute
Visit Jute on Amps at http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/
"wonderfully well written and reasoned information
for the tube audio constructor"
John Broskie TubeCAD & GlassWare
"an unbelievably comprehensive web site
containing vital gems of wisdom"
Stuart Perry Hi-Fi News & Record Review

On 25 Jun 2006 06:30:48 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:

You put your finger on something with Szymanowski, Keith. Also try
Lutoslawski. There more Poles than one would expect who write good
music. It has something to do with their Catholicism. I concluded quite
a while ago (in conversation with John Tavener as it happens but I was
headed there anyway by simple dull statistical analysis) that among the
living composers the only ones really worth listening to believe in God
or are at least religious in some sense, even if only of strong
religious background.

All part of an over-active imagination, I would suppose. That is
necessary for both the creative process and the tendency to credulity.

d

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