Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

I recently bought a Cambridge Audio 640H music server. I'm more than
pleased with it, I find it easy to operate and I've already uploaded
much of my music collection to it. Its networking capabilities, though,
have defeated me. It has hooked up to the internet through my router
and accesses title / artist details and internet radio as it should,
but I can't get it to "talk" to anything else on my home network.
Ideally I'd like to be able to "see" the desktop PC from the music
server and vice versa. The available documentation is not exactly
informative, it just mentions in passing that the 640H uses the PC's
"guest" account, which unfortunately mean nothing to me.

There must be someone out there who's succeeded in getting their 640H
to talk to their PC so any help you could pass on would be much
appreciated. If it's any help, the network is called "home" and is
password protected to prevent unauthorised access to router's wifi
channel.

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

"jb" wrote in message
oups.com...
I recently bought a Cambridge Audio 640H music server. I'm
more than
pleased with it, I find it easy to operate and I've
already uploaded
much of my music collection to it. Its networking
capabilities, though,
have defeated me. It has hooked up to the internet through
my router
and accesses title / artist details and internet radio as
it should,
but I can't get it to "talk" to anything else on my home
network.
Ideally I'd like to be able to "see" the desktop PC from
the music
server and vice versa. The available documentation is not
exactly
informative, it just mentions in passing that the 640H
uses the PC's
"guest" account, which unfortunately mean nothing to me.

There must be someone out there who's succeeded in getting
their 640H
to talk to their PC so any help you could pass on would be
much
appreciated. If it's any help, the network is called
"home" and is
password protected to prevent unauthorised access to
router's wifi
channel.


Well actually it is very easy. Mine is hard wired to a
router and works perfectly and yes the book is vague but it
is all there.

I assume you are using Win XP?
First up assign an IP address to the 640H that is in the IP
range of your router.
Make sure the 640H has a name (I called mine AZUR)
Next enable file sharing on your computer.
Then enter into the 640H the network address of the file you
want to read.
e.g \\ your computer's name\music file

BTW don't forget the double "\\" as it is a network address
;-)

Also if you open in Windows: Start Search Computers or
People type in Azur and see if your computer can find it as
well.

Hope this helps.

Cheers TT

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

"TT" wrote in message
...

"jb" wrote in message
oups.com...
I recently bought a Cambridge Audio 640H music server. I'm
more than
pleased with it, I find it easy to operate and I've
already uploaded
much of my music collection to it. Its networking
capabilities, though,
have defeated me. It has hooked up to the internet through
my router
and accesses title / artist details and internet radio as
it should,
but I can't get it to "talk" to anything else on my home
network.
Ideally I'd like to be able to "see" the desktop PC from
the music
server and vice versa. The available documentation is not
exactly
informative, it just mentions in passing that the 640H
uses the PC's
"guest" account, which unfortunately mean nothing to me.

There must be someone out there who's succeeded in getting
their 640H
to talk to their PC so any help you could pass on would be
much
appreciated. If it's any help, the network is called
"home" and is
password protected to prevent unauthorised access to
router's wifi
channel.


Well actually it is very easy. Mine is hard wired to a
router and works perfectly and yes the book is vague but it
is all there.

I assume you are using Win XP?
First up assign an IP address to the 640H that is in the IP
range of your router.
Make sure the 640H has a name (I called mine AZUR)
Next enable file sharing on your computer.
Then enter into the 640H the network address of the file you
want to read.
e.g \\ your computer's name\music file

BTW don't forget the double "\\" as it is a network address
;-)

Also if you open in Windows: Start Search Computers or
People type in Azur and see if your computer can find it as
well.

Hope this helps.


And don't forget to tell your firewall it's a 'Trusted Zone' (or
whatever)...

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

"Keith G" wrote in message
...

"TT" wrote in message
...

"jb" wrote in message

oups.com...
I recently bought a Cambridge Audio 640H music server.
I'm
more than
pleased with it, I find it easy to operate and I've
already uploaded
much of my music collection to it. Its networking
capabilities, though,
have defeated me. It has hooked up to the internet
through
my router
and accesses title / artist details and internet radio
as
it should,
but I can't get it to "talk" to anything else on my
home
network.
Ideally I'd like to be able to "see" the desktop PC
from
the music
server and vice versa. The available documentation is
not
exactly
informative, it just mentions in passing that the 640H
uses the PC's
"guest" account, which unfortunately mean nothing to
me.

There must be someone out there who's succeeded in
getting
their 640H
to talk to their PC so any help you could pass on would
be
much
appreciated. If it's any help, the network is called
"home" and is
password protected to prevent unauthorised access to
router's wifi
channel.


Well actually it is very easy. Mine is hard wired to a
router and works perfectly and yes the book is vague but
it
is all there.

I assume you are using Win XP?
First up assign an IP address to the 640H that is in the
IP
range of your router.
Make sure the 640H has a name (I called mine AZUR)
Next enable file sharing on your computer.
Then enter into the 640H the network address of the file
you
want to read.
e.g \\ your computer's name\music file

BTW don't forget the double "\\" as it is a network
address
;-)

Also if you open in Windows: Start Search Computers
or
People type in Azur and see if your computer can find
it as
well.

Hope this helps.


And don't forget to tell your firewall it's a 'Trusted
Zone' (or
whatever)...

That's why it is necessary to assign the IP address so it is
in the trusted zone on the router. But yes if all else
fails turn off any firewalls (with plug to the outside world
pulled of course) and try then as well.

Cheers TT

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

TT wrote:



Well actually it is very easy. Mine is hard wired to a
router and works perfectly and yes the book is vague but it
is all there.

I assume you are using Win XP?
First up assign an IP address to the 640H that is in the IP
range of your router.
Make sure the 640H has a name (I called mine AZUR)
Next enable file sharing on your computer.
Then enter into the 640H the network address of the file you
want to read.
e.g \\ your computer's name\music file

BTW don't forget the double "\\" as it is a network address
;-)

Also if you open in Windows: Start Search Computers or
People type in Azur and see if your computer can find it as
well.

Hope this helps.

Cheers TT


It worked! Thanks TT!

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

"jb" wrote in message
oups.com...
:
: TT wrote:
:
:
:
: Well actually it is very easy. Mine is hard wired to a
: router and works perfectly and yes the book is vague but
it
: is all there.
:
: I assume you are using Win XP?
: First up assign an IP address to the 640H that is in the
IP
: range of your router.
: Make sure the 640H has a name (I called mine AZUR)
: Next enable file sharing on your computer.
: Then enter into the 640H the network address of the file
you
: want to read.
: e.g \\ your computer's name\music file
:
: BTW don't forget the double "\\" as it is a network
address
: ;-)
:
: Also if you open in Windows: Start Search Computers
or
: People type in Azur and see if your computer can find
it as
: well.
:
: Hope this helps.
:
: Cheers TT
:
:
: It worked! Thanks TT!
:

No problemo :-)

TIP When recording analog sources to it (e.g. LPs) I just
hit record, drop the needle and record all of the side. I
then drag the file across the network to my main computer
into Cool Edit Pro, split it into tracks with names, top and
tail the tracks with fade in/out and them manually
de-click/pop. Then burn to CD for storage.

This gives a very good and quick result.

Also any album I think I may buy I first download the MP3
onto my main computer, listen to it in my system through the
640H's network connection so I can get a good idea of what
it will really sound like before handing over the hard
earned.

Cheers TT

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

Hi TT (and others),

I've recently bought a Cambridge Audio 640H Music Server along with a
couple of other bits of CA gear (Azur 540R and the DVD89 player).
Anyway I'm buggered if I can get the networking happening on the
640H. I've assigned it an IP within my network and done all the other
stuff as planned but it just won't find my share that has all my MP3s
in it.

Does it matter that my computers are hooked up via a network switch
elsewhere in the house and the 640H is connecting to that switch via
Ethernet cables running through the walls (the cables all work because
I've plugged my laptop into the socket where the 640H is and it
connects to the shared folder ok)??

Any suggestions? My computers are also part of a Windows Domain as well
- not sure if that makes a difference or not (don't know that it
should).

Cheers muchly

Berk McGowan


TT wrote:
"jb" wrote in message
oups.com...
:
: TT wrote:
:
:
:
: Well actually it is very easy. Mine is hard wired to a
: router and works perfectly and yes the book is vague but
it
: is all there.
:
: I assume you are using Win XP?
: First up assign an IP address to the 640H that is in the
IP
: range of your router.
: Make sure the 640H has a name (I called mine AZUR)
: Next enable file sharing on your computer.
: Then enter into the 640H the network address of the file
you
: want to read.
: e.g \\ your computer's name\music file
:
: BTW don't forget the double "\\" as it is a network
address
: ;-)
:
: Also if you open in Windows: Start Search Computers
or
: People type in Azur and see if your computer can find
it as
: well.
:
: Hope this helps.
:
: Cheers TT
:
:
: It worked! Thanks TT!
:

No problemo :-)

TIP When recording analog sources to it (e.g. LPs) I just
hit record, drop the needle and record all of the side. I
then drag the file across the network to my main computer
into Cool Edit Pro, split it into tracks with names, top and
tail the tracks with fade in/out and them manually
de-click/pop. Then burn to CD for storage.

This gives a very good and quick result.

Also any album I think I may buy I first download the MP3
onto my main computer, listen to it in my system through the
640H's network connection so I can get a good idea of what
it will really sound like before handing over the hard
earned.

Cheers TT

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

Hi berkyj,

I see you have read my previous post on this so I would
suggest you have a good look at the 640H set up again as jb
seemed to get his to work OK.

If you follow *all* the tips I have already said and it
still wont work please get back to us here with some
specific questions.

Cheers TT


wrote in message
oups.com...
: Hi TT (and others),
:
: I've recently bought a Cambridge Audio 640H Music Server
along with a
: couple of other bits of CA gear (Azur 540R and the DVD89
player).
: Anyway I'm buggered if I can get the networking happening
on the
: 640H. I've assigned it an IP within my network and done
all the other
: stuff as planned but it just won't find my share that has
all my MP3s
: in it.
:
: Does it matter that my computers are hooked up via a
network switch
: elsewhere in the house and the 640H is connecting to that
switch via
: Ethernet cables running through the walls (the cables all
work because
: I've plugged my laptop into the socket where the 640H is
and it
: connects to the shared folder ok)??
:
: Any suggestions? My computers are also part of a Windows
Domain as well
: - not sure if that makes a difference or not (don't know
that it
: should).
:
: Cheers muchly
:
: Berk McGowan
:
:
: TT wrote:
: "jb" wrote in message
:
oups.com...
: :
: : TT wrote:
: :
: :
: :
: : Well actually it is very easy. Mine is hard wired
to a
: : router and works perfectly and yes the book is vague
but
: it
: : is all there.
: :
: : I assume you are using Win XP?
: : First up assign an IP address to the 640H that is in
the
: IP
: : range of your router.
: : Make sure the 640H has a name (I called mine AZUR)
: : Next enable file sharing on your computer.
: : Then enter into the 640H the network address of the
file
: you
: : want to read.
: : e.g \\ your computer's name\music file
: :
: : BTW don't forget the double "\\" as it is a network
: address
: : ;-)
: :
: : Also if you open in Windows: Start Search
Computers
: or
: : People type in Azur and see if your computer can
find
: it as
: : well.
: :
: : Hope this helps.
: :
: : Cheers TT
: :
: :
: : It worked! Thanks TT!
: :
:
: No problemo :-)
:
: TIP When recording analog sources to it (e.g. LPs) I
just
: hit record, drop the needle and record all of the side.
I
: then drag the file across the network to my main
computer
: into Cool Edit Pro, split it into tracks with names, top
and
: tail the tracks with fade in/out and them manually
: de-click/pop. Then burn to CD for storage.
:
: This gives a very good and quick result.
:
: Also any album I think I may buy I first download the
MP3
: onto my main computer, listen to it in my system through
the
: 640H's network connection so I can get a good idea of
what
: it will really sound like before handing over the hard
: earned.
:
: Cheers TT
:

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

Cheers TT,

I will definitely go back tonight and start a fresh and go through it
step by step to make sure I didn't miss anything. Are you using fixed
IP addressing for all your computers in your network or a combination
of fixed and DHCP?

An aside question: Is it worth updating the software of the 640H?

Will let you know how I go...

Cheers
Berk

TT wrote:
Hi berkyj,

I see you have read my previous post on this so I would
suggest you have a good look at the 640H set up again as jb
seemed to get his to work OK.

If you follow *all* the tips I have already said and it
still wont work please get back to us here with some
specific questions.

Cheers TT

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

:
: I will definitely go back tonight and start a fresh and go
through it
: step by step to make sure I didn't miss anything.

I think you will find you have missed something obvious ;-)

Are you using fixed
: IP addressing for all your computers in your network or a
combination
: of fixed and DHCP?

It's all DHCP. Except I did assign a number to the 640H
that is within the allowed IP adress range of my router.
:
: An aside question: Is it worth updating the software of
the 640H?

Oh dear :-( You *MUST* update the software as there are
some dreadful glitches in the first version it was shipped
with. Tip back up all your music filese first before doing
the update. The process is very easy to do and the result
is a much more stable machine. I would actully reconmend
wiping the HD, update the software and then reload all the
music
:
:
Cheers TT
:
: TT wrote:
: Hi berkyj,
:
: I see you have read my previous post on this so I would
: suggest you have a good look at the 640H set up again as
jb
: seemed to get his to work OK.
:
: If you follow *all* the tips I have already said and it
: still wont work please get back to us here with some
: specific questions.
:
: Cheers TT
:
:
:

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

Ok,

Have spent about 3 hours trying to get this to work with the same
result.... nothing.

I firstly went through the system with a fine tooth comb and made sure
I hadn't missed anything - all was present.

Next I updated the software which appeared to be the same as what was
on the system already. So my current system information is as follows:

Under System/Information:
System Version 02.01.50
OS Version 3.36
Software Version 02.09.84
HD stuff....
Settings 6116_06.ca
Installer v07.00/B/P

Under Settings/System/System Information:
Unit Name Azur

Under Settings/System/Product/Network/Options:
Automatic IP settings (DHCP) - i've switched this off

Under Settings/System/Product/Network/Ethernet:
IP Address 192.168.1.8
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.1.1 (this is my ADSL router)
Name Server 210.15.254.240 (ISP's Name Server)

At this point I selected the Apply option to save the network settings
than went to Settings/System/Content/Add Location/File Location and
added a Friendly name, plus the name of the network share
("\\tigoshi\mp3s" minus the quote marks) and left the username as Guest
then went to Scan and each time it comes back with "Content location
could not be found".

A diagram of my network setup can be found at
http://www.bigcat.net.au/temp/network.gif to give a better idea of how
the network is setup and where the 640H connects to things.

I've tried turning off firewalls on the XP box to see if that makes a
difference to no avail. I even switched the DHCP server on the router
on and all I got was the 169.something virtual private network address
which meant it didn't find the DHCP server. I know the cabling is all
fine because as mentioned in a previous post i tested it using a laptop
to the point where the 640H is plugged into and was able to browse the
share fine.

The only other point to note is that my computers are networked in a
Windows Server Domain in that the XP machine requires me to logon which
is checked by the other machine via Active Directory (the whole windows
server thing), but this seems not to be the main problem as my laptop
is configured for my work Domain and differs from this Domain here.

Any thoughts? Suggestions??

Cheers muchly...

Berk McGowan



TT wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

:
: I will definitely go back tonight and start a fresh and go
through it
: step by step to make sure I didn't miss anything.

I think you will find you have missed something obvious ;-)

Are you using fixed
: IP addressing for all your computers in your network or a
combination
: of fixed and DHCP?

It's all DHCP. Except I did assign a number to the 640H
that is within the allowed IP adress range of my router.
:
: An aside question: Is it worth updating the software of
the 640H?

Oh dear :-( You *MUST* update the software as there are
some dreadful glitches in the first version it was shipped
with. Tip back up all your music filese first before doing
the update. The process is very easy to do and the result
is a much more stable machine. I would actully reconmend
wiping the HD, update the software and then reload all the
music
:
:
Cheers TT
:
: TT wrote:
: Hi berkyj,
:
: I see you have read my previous post on this so I would
: suggest you have a good look at the 640H set up again as
jb
: seemed to get his to work OK.
:
: If you follow *all* the tips I have already said and it
: still wont work please get back to us here with some
: specific questions.
:
: Cheers TT
:
:
:

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

Hi Berky,

You sure have given it a good go.

OK a few thoughts here to start with.

Your assigned IP address for the 640H is it in the allowed
IP range for the router.

Next go to your Windoze machine and

Start Search Computers or People Computer on Network
Computer Name (Azur?) - hit search and see if it finds it.
Sometimes you have to kick the process along ;-)

Next *IF* this still doesn't work try searching for the
Windoze computer on the network. That is, see if it will
find itself. This way it will check to see if the computer
name is the same as its network name. Make sure it is the
same spelling and same case without any non-alphanumeric
characters.

Another thing to check is that you are running a TCIP
network so make sure any other protocol like NetBeui is
disabled. I got caught here once before ;-)

Try these and get back if any more probs.

Cheers TT


wrote in message
ups.com...
Ok,

Have spent about 3 hours trying to get this to work with
the same
result.... nothing.

I firstly went through the system with a fine tooth comb
and made sure
I hadn't missed anything - all was present.

Next I updated the software which appeared to be the same
as what was
on the system already. So my current system information is
as follows:

Under System/Information:
System Version 02.01.50
OS Version 3.36
Software Version 02.09.84
HD stuff....
Settings 6116_06.ca
Installer v07.00/B/P

Under Settings/System/System Information:
Unit Name Azur

Under Settings/System/Product/Network/Options:
Automatic IP settings (DHCP) - i've switched this off

Under Settings/System/Product/Network/Ethernet:
IP Address 192.168.1.8
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.1.1 (this is my ADSL
router)
Name Server 210.15.254.240 (ISP's Name Server)

At this point I selected the Apply option to save the
network settings
than went to Settings/System/Content/Add Location/File
Location and
added a Friendly name, plus the name of the network share
("\\tigoshi\mp3s" minus the quote marks) and left the
username as Guest
then went to Scan and each time it comes back with
"Content location
could not be found".

A diagram of my network setup can be found at
http://www.bigcat.net.au/temp/network.gif to give a better
idea of how
the network is setup and where the 640H connects to
things.

I've tried turning off firewalls on the XP box to see if
that makes a
difference to no avail. I even switched the DHCP server on
the router
on and all I got was the 169.something virtual private
network address
which meant it didn't find the DHCP server. I know the
cabling is all
fine because as mentioned in a previous post i tested it
using a laptop
to the point where the 640H is plugged into and was able
to browse the
share fine.

The only other point to note is that my computers are
networked in a
Windows Server Domain in that the XP machine requires me
to logon which
is checked by the other machine via Active Directory (the
whole windows
server thing), but this seems not to be the main problem
as my laptop
is configured for my work Domain and differs from this
Domain here.

Any thoughts? Suggestions??

Cheers muchly...

Berk McGowan



TT wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...

:
: I will definitely go back tonight and start a fresh
and go
through it
: step by step to make sure I didn't miss anything.

I think you will find you have missed something obvious
;-)

Are you using fixed
: IP addressing for all your computers in your network
or a
combination
: of fixed and DHCP?

It's all DHCP. Except I did assign a number to the 640H
that is within the allowed IP adress range of my router.
:
: An aside question: Is it worth updating the software
of
the 640H?

Oh dear :-( You *MUST* update the software as there are
some dreadful glitches in the first version it was
shipped
with. Tip back up all your music filese first before
doing
the update. The process is very easy to do and the
result
is a much more stable machine. I would actully
reconmend
wiping the HD, update the software and then reload all
the
music
:
:
Cheers TT
:
: TT wrote:
: Hi berkyj,
:
: I see you have read my previous post on this so I
would
: suggest you have a good look at the 640H set up
again as
jb
: seemed to get his to work OK.
:
: If you follow *all* the tips I have already said and
it
: still wont work please get back to us here with some
: specific questions.
:
: Cheers TT
:
:
:

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

Ok,

Here's the latest update - sorry its taken me a couple of days to post
this.

I sent an email to CA support about this issue as well and received a
response indicating that because my XP machine was part of a Domain
that this may be the cause of it not connecting. Anyway I thought I
would step it right back to basics.

Firstly I removed the XP box from the Domain and brought the 640H into
where the XP box is located. I set up a small hub and plugged the two
network cables into this. Voila, after some messing around it worked
but here was the strange thing; it would only work if I set the gateway
to the IP address of the XP box, if I set it to the actual IP of the
router (the proper gateway) it didn't want to know about it. At least I
was getting somewhere.

Next I moved the 640H out to where the main network switch is located
(another room) and plugged it in there and tried the same thing - no
problems. Connected fine and found the share.

When I moved it back to the lounge room where I want it to live it then
couldn't find it. I checked all the cabling with a cable tester to make
sure there were no dead pins or switched pins and it all worked fine.
The only thing I can think of is that it doesn't like a cable run that
long (it's only about 20metres tops but longer than the other runs I
was testing it on).

Anyway, primary problem solved - the 640H will not work within a
Windows Domain environment, it obviously doesn't have the necessary
networking components needed to access the share (strange considering
my laptop which is not part of my home Domain could see the share with
no problems).

I have a spare machine I will build up as a dedicated mp3 box and it
can sit closer to the 640H and hopefully that will work.

Overall, I'm a bit dissapointed in how the 640H handles networking
considering it sells it as one of its features. I just think some more
effort needed to be put into it or hopefully will be in a future update
(depending on how regularly they are released).

Thanks for your help at anyrate.

Berk


TT wrote:
Hi Berky,

You sure have given it a good go.

OK a few thoughts here to start with.

Your assigned IP address for the 640H is it in the allowed
IP range for the router.

Next go to your Windoze machine and

Start Search Computers or People Computer on Network
Computer Name (Azur?) - hit search and see if it finds it.
Sometimes you have to kick the process along ;-)

Next *IF* this still doesn't work try searching for the
Windoze computer on the network. That is, see if it will
find itself. This way it will check to see if the computer
name is the same as its network name. Make sure it is the
same spelling and same case without any non-alphanumeric
characters.

Another thing to check is that you are running a TCIP
network so make sure any other protocol like NetBeui is
disabled. I got caught here once before ;-)

Try these and get back if any more probs.

Cheers TT


wrote in message
ups.com...
Ok,

Have spent about 3 hours trying to get this to work with
the same
result.... nothing.

I firstly went through the system with a fine tooth comb
and made sure
I hadn't missed anything - all was present.

Next I updated the software which appeared to be the same
as what was
on the system already. So my current system information is
as follows:

Under System/Information:
System Version 02.01.50
OS Version 3.36
Software Version 02.09.84
HD stuff....
Settings 6116_06.ca
Installer v07.00/B/P

Under Settings/System/System Information:
Unit Name Azur

Under Settings/System/Product/Network/Options:
Automatic IP settings (DHCP) - i've switched this off

Under Settings/System/Product/Network/Ethernet:
IP Address 192.168.1.8
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.1.1 (this is my ADSL
router)
Name Server 210.15.254.240 (ISP's Name Server)

At this point I selected the Apply option to save the
network settings
than went to Settings/System/Content/Add Location/File
Location and
added a Friendly name, plus the name of the network share
("\\tigoshi\mp3s" minus the quote marks) and left the
username as Guest
then went to Scan and each time it comes back with
"Content location
could not be found".

A diagram of my network setup can be found at
http://www.bigcat.net.au/temp/network.gif to give a better
idea of how
the network is setup and where the 640H connects to
things.

I've tried turning off firewalls on the XP box to see if
that makes a
difference to no avail. I even switched the DHCP server on
the router
on and all I got was the 169.something virtual private
network address
which meant it didn't find the DHCP server. I know the
cabling is all
fine because as mentioned in a previous post i tested it
using a laptop
to the point where the 640H is plugged into and was able
to browse the
share fine.

The only other point to note is that my computers are
networked in a
Windows Server Domain in that the XP machine requires me
to logon which
is checked by the other machine via Active Directory (the
whole windows
server thing), but this seems not to be the main problem
as my laptop
is configured for my work Domain and differs from this
Domain here.

Any thoughts? Suggestions??

Cheers muchly...

Berk McGowan



TT wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...

:
: I will definitely go back tonight and start a fresh
and go
through it
: step by step to make sure I didn't miss anything.

I think you will find you have missed something obvious
;-)

Are you using fixed
: IP addressing for all your computers in your network
or a
combination
: of fixed and DHCP?

It's all DHCP. Except I did assign a number to the 640H
that is within the allowed IP adress range of my router.
:
: An aside question: Is it worth updating the software
of
the 640H?

Oh dear :-( You *MUST* update the software as there are
some dreadful glitches in the first version it was
shipped
with. Tip back up all your music filese first before
doing
the update. The process is very easy to do and the
result
is a much more stable machine. I would actully
reconmend
wiping the HD, update the software and then reload all
the
music
:
:
Cheers TT
:
: TT wrote:
: Hi berkyj,
:
: I see you have read my previous post on this so I
would
: suggest you have a good look at the 640H set up
again as
jb
: seemed to get his to work OK.
:
: If you follow *all* the tips I have already said and
it
: still wont work please get back to us here with some
: specific questions.
:
: Cheers TT
:
:
:

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Ok,

Here's the latest update - sorry its taken me a couple of
days to post
this.

No problemo :-)


I sent an email to CA support about this issue as well and
received a
response

Geez you're lucky. They stopped talking to me.

indicating that because my XP machine was part of a Domain
that this may be the cause of it not connecting. Anyway I
thought I
would step it right back to basics.

Always a good start.

Firstly I removed the XP box from the Domain and brought
the 640H into
where the XP box is located. I set up a small hub and
plugged the two
network cables into this. Voila, after some messing around
it worked
but here was the strange thing; it would only work if I
set the gateway
to the IP address of the XP box, if I set it to the actual
IP of the
router (the proper gateway) it didn't want to know about
it. At least I
was getting somewhere.

Now you are mixing two different network types. A hub will
allow other machines to connect to a *server* where as a
router *is* the server. You need to be very clear on this
and I'm no network expert at all.

So a hub would connect to a server that had say an IP
address of 198.1.1.5. On a domain through a router the
router would be 198.1.1.1 (the first address) and then the
XP machine could be 198.1.1.5 BUT you would set the range on
the router as 198.1.1.1 - 198.1.1.100 if you wanted 99
machines to connect to it. I hope I have this right and if
I haven't someone here will surely correct me ;-)

Next I moved the 640H out to where the main network switch
is located
(another room) and plugged it in there and tried the same
thing - no
problems. Connected fine and found the share.

When I moved it back to the lounge room where I want it to
live it then
couldn't find it. I checked all the cabling with a cable
tester to make
sure there were no dead pins or switched pins and it all
worked fine.
The only thing I can think of is that it doesn't like a
cable run that
long (it's only about 20metres tops but longer than the
other runs I
was testing it on).

Mine is over 30m so that is not an issue.


Anyway, primary problem solved - the 640H will not work
within a
Windows Domain environment,

Yes it will. I'm sorry to say.

it obviously doesn't have the necessary
networking components needed to access the share (strange
considering
my laptop which is not part of my home Domain could see
the share with
no problems).

It must have fluked a vaccant IP address ;-)


I have a spare machine I will build up as a dedicated mp3
box and it
can sit closer to the 640H and hopefully that will work.

Really no need.


Overall, I'm a bit dissapointed in how the 640H handles
networking
considering it sells it as one of its features. I just
think some more
effort needed to be put into it or hopefully will be in a
future update
(depending on how regularly they are released).

I (and others) have found it very easy and I usually
struggle with networking

Thanks for your help at anyrate.

I have tried.


Berk


Tip: I am using XP Professional and I have heard of some
people that have problems with XP Home and the CA 640H.
Funny thing, one of them was my dealer that sells them and
he even paid a network pro to come out and solve it :-))
Which he couldn't :-)) I laughed anyway :-))

Professional seems to have better networking abilities.
Anyway you need to have another good look at what you are
doing. It will work.



Cheers TT

Cambridge Audio music server (networking)
 

It will work on a domain, but it does not have the capability to provide the
necessary authentication. Create a share on a machine, enable the Guest
account (not a good thing to do usually) and it should see the share.

If the 640H is set to dhcp and it connected to the hub that the router is
connected to, it will get all it's necessary details. It should do a
broadcast when it boots up to check for any dhcp servers.

There are several designated private network address ranges (198.1.1.1 is
not one of them)
10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255
172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255

These are the only ones you should be using on your internal network.

In the small hub did you plug in the router as well? As it wouldn't find the
router as a gateway unless it was also plugged into the small hub.

In regards to it not finding it, is the XP machine still on the main switch
as well? Also if there is noise on the line, sometimes forcing it back to
10base speed can help.



wrote in message
oups.com...
Ok,

Here's the latest update - sorry its taken me a couple of days to post
this.

I sent an email to CA support about this issue as well and received a
response indicating that because my XP machine was part of a Domain
that this may be the cause of it not connecting. Anyway I thought I
would step it right back to basics.

Firstly I removed the XP box from the Domain and brought the 640H into
where the XP box is located. I set up a small hub and plugged the two
network cables into this. Voila, after some messing around it worked
but here was the strange thing; it would only work if I set the gateway
to the IP address of the XP box, if I set it to the actual IP of the
router (the proper gateway) it didn't want to know about it. At least I
was getting somewhere.

Next I moved the 640H out to where the main network switch is located
(another room) and plugged it in there and tried the same thing - no
problems. Connected fine and found the share.

When I moved it back to the lounge room where I want it to live it then
couldn't find it. I checked all the cabling with a cable tester to make
sure there were no dead pins or switched pins and it all worked fine.
The only thing I can think of is that it doesn't like a cable run that
long (it's only about 20metres tops but longer than the other runs I
was testing it on).

Anyway, primary problem solved - the 640H will not work within a
Windows Domain environment, it obviously doesn't have the necessary
networking components needed to access the share (strange considering
my laptop which is not part of my home Domain could see the share with
no problems).

I have a spare machine I will build up as a dedicated mp3 box and it
can sit closer to the 640H and hopefully that will work.

Overall, I'm a bit dissapointed in how the 640H handles networking
considering it sells it as one of its features. I just think some more
effort needed to be put into it or hopefully will be in a future update
(depending on how regularly they are released).

Thanks for your help at anyrate.

Berk


TT wrote:
Hi Berky,

You sure have given it a good go.

OK a few thoughts here to start with.

Your assigned IP address for the 640H is it in the allowed
IP range for the router.

Next go to your Windoze machine and

Start Search Computers or People Computer on Network
Computer Name (Azur?) - hit search and see if it finds it.
Sometimes you have to kick the process along ;-)

Next *IF* this still doesn't work try searching for the
Windoze computer on the network. That is, see if it will
find itself. This way it will check to see if the computer
name is the same as its network name. Make sure it is the
same spelling and same case without any non-alphanumeric
characters.

Another thing to check is that you are running a TCIP
network so make sure any other protocol like NetBeui is
disabled. I got caught here once before ;-)

Try these and get back if any more probs.

Cheers TT


wrote in message
ups.com...
Ok,

Have spent about 3 hours trying to get this to work with
the same
result.... nothing.

I firstly went through the system with a fine tooth comb
and made sure
I hadn't missed anything - all was present.

Next I updated the software which appeared to be the same
as what was
on the system already. So my current system information is
as follows:

Under System/Information:
System Version 02.01.50
OS Version 3.36
Software Version 02.09.84
HD stuff....
Settings 6116_06.ca
Installer v07.00/B/P

Under Settings/System/System Information:
Unit Name Azur

Under Settings/System/Product/Network/Options:
Automatic IP settings (DHCP) - i've switched this off

Under Settings/System/Product/Network/Ethernet:
IP Address 192.168.1.8
Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Gateway 192.168.1.1 (this is my ADSL
router)
Name Server 210.15.254.240 (ISP's Name Server)

At this point I selected the Apply option to save the
network settings
than went to Settings/System/Content/Add Location/File
Location and
added a Friendly name, plus the name of the network share
("\\tigoshi\mp3s" minus the quote marks) and left the
username as Guest
then went to Scan and each time it comes back with
"Content location
could not be found".

A diagram of my network setup can be found at
http://www.bigcat.net.au/temp/network.gif to give a better
idea of how
the network is setup and where the 640H connects to
things.

I've tried turning off firewalls on the XP box to see if
that makes a
difference to no avail. I even switched the DHCP server on
the router
on and all I got was the 169.something virtual private
network address
which meant it didn't find the DHCP server. I know the
cabling is all
fine because as mentioned in a previous post i tested it
using a laptop
to the point where the 640H is plugged into and was able
to browse the
share fine.

The only other point to note is that my computers are
networked in a
Windows Server Domain in that the XP machine requires me
to logon which
is checked by the other machine via Active Directory (the
whole windows
server thing), but this seems not to be the main problem
as my laptop
is configured for my work Domain and differs from this
Domain here.

Any thoughts? Suggestions??

Cheers muchly...

Berk McGowan



TT wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...

:
: I will definitely go back tonight and start a fresh
and go
through it
: step by step to make sure I didn't miss anything.

I think you will find you have missed something obvious
;-)

Are you using fixed
: IP addressing for all your computers in your network
or a
combination
: of fixed and DHCP?

It's all DHCP. Except I did assign a number to the 640H
that is within the allowed IP adress range of my router.
:
: An aside question: Is it worth updating the software
of
the 640H?

Oh dear :-( You *MUST* update the software as there are
some dreadful glitches in the first version it was
shipped
with. Tip back up all your music filese first before
doing
the update. The process is very easy to do and the
result
is a much more stable machine. I would actully
reconmend
wiping the HD, update the software and then reload all
the
music
:
:
Cheers TT
:
: TT wrote:
: Hi berkyj,
:
: I see you have read my previous post on this so I
would
: suggest you have a good look at the 640H set up
again as
jb
: seemed to get his to work OK.
:
: If you follow *all* the tips I have already said and
it
: still wont work please get back to us here with some
: specific questions.
:
: Cheers TT
:
:
: