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paul packer July 9th 06 11:45 AM

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On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 04:55:18 +0100, Signal wrote:

"George M. Middius" emitted :

I love Andre's posts. They're always filled with sweetness and light.
It's like an episode of Play School.


How cryptic. What is "Play School"?


Children's TV programme :


My favourite show. I especially enjoy Mr. Magic Mirror. :-)

[email protected] July 9th 06 11:21 PM

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Andrew Jute McCoy exuded:

Same crap, different day.


Mr. McCoy:

You need to keep a few things in focus within that seething tar-pit
that passes for your mind:

I may be a 'relatively' recent poster in the tube venue. You, on the
other hand, have been posting for a number of years but entirely the
same content with the same pretense, fantasy and based on the returns
you engender, about the same degree of success. There are three givens
that may be derived from the sum of your exudations:

1. You are desperately unhappy. Hence your equally desperate clamor for
attention and therefore validation. This appears to be your condition
as far back as one cares to search in every venue one cares to look.
2. You are nothing but a loose accretion of fantasies supported by
dubious anecdotes and no facts. You lie as others eat and sleep, a
natural result of your existence so deeply part of you that you have
entirely lost touch with those few things about you that may once have
been real.
3. You have allied yourself past and present with similarly damaged
individuals so as to (again) seek validation even by those who join you
in the same way as you seek them, though for the most part without the
same obsessiveness. Noting to this end that you have paid high
complements to an individual still sucking at the parental tit at an
age when many of us are counting our grand children. There actually may
be some person/place/thing on this earth who has done less than you.
Amazing if true.

With all that in mind, you have the same value and position within this
venue as a dangerous bridge or a poisonous mushroom does in the real
world. Those who know you understand what a charlatan, poseur and waste
of bandwidth that you are. Those that do not may be gulled by your
superficial, vanity-published, but entirely insubstantial command of
the English Language... thereby assume that there might be a "there"
there.

So, write what you will. Nothing will change. Your unhappiness will not
change. Your lack of substance and accomplishment will not change, nor
will either increase even microscopically. And the five minutes it took
me to knock out the above is 4:59 more than you deserve, but quietly
amusing.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


The Repair Guy July 10th 06 01:32 AM

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"Andre Jute" wrote:

The Repair Guy wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote:
--snip--
idiots who think that by making snippy comments
about my posts they will build up their own inadequate
self-esteem. They're too dumb to understand that one
doesn't gain esteem by tearing down but by building up.


Ah. That explains your attacks on Mr Carlson, etc.
Carry on.


I haven't attacked Ned Carlson of Tubezone or Steven
R. Rochlin of Enjoythemusic. If I had attacked them, they'd
be in surgery and then in traction.


No doubt, no doubt. Sorry for the vagueness. You've
attacked them _verbally_, thereby revealing your own
inadequate self-esteem. See google groups for any
of your numerous vendetta-style threads.

I have merely considered the morality of Carlson and
Rochlin in the light of published evidence -- published
by themselves, I might add.


You've presented your interpretations of what they've
written as fact.

On hand of the finding Carlson and Rochlin's morality
deeply flawed by greed, insincerity, hypocrisy and
arrogance,


I bet those last three really burn _you_, eh?

and, in Carlson's case, rampant racism,


What was the "racism" again - a crack about Germans?
!.) Isn't Mr Carlson German?
2.) Is German a race?
3.) "rampant"??

I have concluded it is wiser not to give one's money


Then don't. Have they asked you for any?

to Carlson at Tubezone.commisserations for goods
when there are so many honest tube pushers to buy
from, nor to give one's money to the placebo-pushing
manufacturers Rochlin shills for at Enjoythemusic.all
paidadvertising.


Turning now to you, anonymous "Repair Guy", your
glaringly unsubtle subtext is that these two scumballs
should be immune from justifiable and roundly justified
criticism for their dishonesty *because they are traders*.


That's one interpretation. Another might be that you're
throwing a lot of mud and hoping that some of it sticks.

It is a common attitude in the audio conferences, where
many are wannabe traders. It is none the less a
despicable attitude, and despised by none, not even
me, more than by the good, honest professionals who
give us their knowledge free of charge and expect
nothing in return except our goodwill.


You don't read a lot of Mark Twain, do you?

This virtual commonwealth of crooks and incompetents
on the net explains why scum like Rochlin jumps to
defend Carlson, and Carlson jumps to defend Rochlin,
and the two of them, all lovey-dovey, in years gone by,
before I landed on them for it like a ton of Roman law
carved in marble, used to tell everyone to buy, buy, buy
from the other garage vermin on the newsgroups. If you
don't believe me, start reading RAT c1997.


I've read some threads. I'm not reading every post.
If you have a specific cite or two to support your
accusations, go ahead.

--snip--
You methods of trying to protect these ripoff merchants,


I'm not trying to "protect" anybody. You're posting in
a public newsgroup, attacking people. Clue: expect
comments.

"Repair Guy", stink to high heaven of personal attack
on me. You haven't argued a single case I put. You have
merely kibbitzed about me.


Incorrect. I don't know anything about you, or claim to
know anything about you, except what I see in your posts.
If I think you're acting like a pinhead, I say so. Is there a
problem?

Is there any reason I shouldn't killfile a dull clown like
you as I have already killfiled the other garage vermin?


None I can think of. I'd certainly hate to think of a pillar
of morality like you becoming contaminated by "garage
vermin", "trailer trash", etc. Have you thought about
associating with only brilliant, honest, kindly people?
Perhaps your local house of worship.

The Repair Guy
repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com

paul packer July 10th 06 01:58 AM

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On 9 Jul 2006 16:21:38 -0700, " wrote:


Andrew Jute McCoy exuded:

Same crap, different day.


Mr. McCoy:

You need to keep a few things in focus within that seething tar-pit
that passes for your mind:

I may be a 'relatively' recent poster in the tube venue. You, on the
other hand, have been posting for a number of years but entirely the
same content with the same pretense, fantasy and based on the returns
you engender, about the same degree of success. There are three givens
that may be derived from the sum of your exudations:

1. You are desperately unhappy. Hence your equally desperate clamor for
attention and therefore validation. This appears to be your condition
as far back as one cares to search in every venue one cares to look.
2. You are nothing but a loose accretion of fantasies supported by
dubious anecdotes and no facts. You lie as others eat and sleep, a
natural result of your existence so deeply part of you that you have
entirely lost touch with those few things about you that may once have
been real.
3. You have allied yourself past and present with similarly damaged
individuals so as to (again) seek validation even by those who join you
in the same way as you seek them, though for the most part without the
same obsessiveness. Noting to this end that you have paid high
complements to an individual still sucking at the parental tit at an
age when many of us are counting our grand children. There actually may
be some person/place/thing on this earth who has done less than you.
Amazing if true.

With all that in mind, you have the same value and position within this
venue as a dangerous bridge or a poisonous mushroom does in the real
world. Those who know you understand what a charlatan, poseur and waste
of bandwidth that you are. Those that do not may be gulled by your
superficial, vanity-published, but entirely insubstantial command of
the English Language... thereby assume that there might be a "there"
there.

So, write what you will. Nothing will change. Your unhappiness will not
change. Your lack of substance and accomplishment will not change, nor
will either increase even microscopically. And the five minutes it took
me to knock out the above is 4:59 more than you deserve, but quietly
amusing.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Brilliant. Wouldn't know if it's true or not, don't take sides, but
it's a brilliant piece. Congratulations.

I don't believe the five minutes bit though. :-)


soundhaspriority July 10th 06 01:33 PM

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wrote in message
ups.com...

Andrew Jute McCoy exuded:

Same crap, different day.


Mr. McCoy:

You need to keep a few things in focus within that seething tar-pit
that passes for your mind:

I may be a 'relatively' recent poster in the tube venue. You, on the
other hand, have been posting for a number of years but entirely the
same content with the same pretense, fantasy and based on the returns
you engender, about the same degree of success. There are three givens
that may be derived from the sum of your exudations:

1. You are desperately unhappy. Hence your equally desperate clamor for
attention and therefore validation. This appears to be your condition
as far back as one cares to search in every venue one cares to look.


Dear Mr. Wieck:
You are smearing Mr. Jute, and you are smearing me. As we are virtually
neighbors, I assure you this will bite you in the ass.

Sincerely yours,
Robert Morein
(215) 646-4894



[email protected] July 10th 06 02:06 PM

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soundhaspriority wrote:
Amorphous semi-threats based on propinquity.


And is anything that I have written (or implied) lacking in either
supportable facts or truth? "Smears" are what Mr. McCoy does and based
on lies.

http://www.aopc.org/OpPosting/Suprem...-17eal2001.pdf

About covers your activities over the last several years of your life.
You and that seething tarpit that provides you with validation are
pretty much total wastes of air and water. Just my opinion, I am not
writing for others, of course.

Allow me suggest to you that you are no threat, real or imagined, to me
or anyone else. But if it makes you feel better to cajole me with vague
bits of random blandishment to quieten me... have at.

But, before you do, let me relate to you a true story. Once upon a
time, c.1977, I purchased a house on the 4900 block of Walton Avenue in
West Philadelphia. You would understand that neighborhood better than
most posters here, but suffice it to say that when one could purchase a
2900s.f. three-story Victorian Row-House w/finished rentable apartment
built in 1896 in excellent condition for $17,500; it was not the best
in the world. Shortly after I moved in, a young punk three doors down &
across the street made a vague threat in my direction via my
lady-friend at the time, impying that she would "get" what I "got" as
well if I did not leave forthwith.

I found him later that day. I said: Roland (his given name): You have
just become my newest and best friend. We have established that I am
crazy to live in this neighborhood... do you really wish to find out
how crazy I am? If I should get a flat tire in Baltimore, my cat get a
hairball anywhere, I will assume it was you that did it, and act
accordingly. Nothing happened to me or mine _ever_ for the 5 years I
lived in that house.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Clyde Slick July 10th 06 07:38 PM

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wrote in message
oups.com...

..

I found him later that day. I said: Roland (his given name): You have
just become my newest and best friend. We have established that I am
crazy to live in this neighborhood... do you really wish to find out
how crazy I am? If I should get a flat tire in Baltimore, my cat get a
hairball anywhere, I will assume it was you that did it, and act
accordingly. Nothing happened to me or mine _ever_ for the 5 years I
lived in that house.


Can I be your friend. too?



--
Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service
-------http://www.NewsDem

paul packer July 11th 06 12:43 AM

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On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 15:38:20 -0400, "Clyde Slick"
wrote:


wrote in message
roups.com...

.

I found him later that day. I said: Roland (his given name): You have
just become my newest and best friend. We have established that I am
crazy to live in this neighborhood... do you really wish to find out
how crazy I am? If I should get a flat tire in Baltimore, my cat get a
hairball anywhere, I will assume it was you that did it, and act
accordingly. Nothing happened to me or mine _ever_ for the 5 years I
lived in that house.


Can I be your friend. too?


After that story, we're all his friends.

All but Arnie, of course.

Sound Emporium July 11th 06 06:08 AM

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In article ,
" wrote:
About covers your activities over the last several years of your life.
You and that seething tarpit that provides you with validation are
pretty much total wastes of air and water. Just my opinion, I am not
writing for others, of course.

Allow me suggest to you that you are no threat, real or imagined, to me
or anyone else. But if it makes you feel better to cajole me with vague
bits of random blandishment to quieten me... have at.


It's obvious you have been the accomplice to McCarty in his sorry but
ineffectual attempt to defame me at my local Shop 'N Bag. My police buddies
just laughed and laughed at your sorry actions. I've called them and given
them your details, including the cars you have registered. They'll stop and
detain you if you should enter Upper Dublin, I can assure you.

Luv,
Bob Morein


soundhaspriority July 11th 06 06:56 AM

Forgery
 
This is a forgery by Brian L. McCarty


"Sound Emporium" wrote in message
ews.com...
In article ,
" wrote:
About covers your activities over the last several years of your life.
You and that seething tarpit that provides you with validation are
pretty much total wastes of air and water. Just my opinion, I am not
writing for others, of course.

Allow me suggest to you that you are no threat, real or imagined, to me
or anyone else. But if it makes you feel better to cajole me with vague
bits of random blandishment to quieten me... have at.


It's obvious you have been the accomplice to McCarty in his sorry but
ineffectual attempt to defame me at my local Shop 'N Bag. My police
buddies
just laughed and laughed at your sorry actions. I've called them and
given
them your details, including the cars you have registered. They'll stop
and
detain you if you should enter Upper Dublin, I can assure you.

Luv,
Bob Morein




Navin R. Johnson July 12th 06 04:21 AM

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hmmm..

what exactly is going on here?



Jon Yaeger July 12th 06 04:32 AM

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in article t, Navin R.
Johnson at wrote on 7/12/06 12:21 AM:

hmmm..

what exactly is going on here?




Don't ask. You REALLY don't want to know.

Jon


paul packer July 12th 06 07:14 AM

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On 6 Jul 2006 05:01:18 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:

Krueger can be viewed -- and no
doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment before death -- as
an overly fanatical pusher of the narrowest knife-edge of science
misapplied.


Hmmm...that's optimistic. And what good will it do us?

Arny Krueger July 12th 06 10:59 AM

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"paul packer" wrote in message

On 6 Jul 2006 05:01:18 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:

Krueger can be viewed -- and no
doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment
before death -- as an overly fanatical pusher of the
narrowest knife-edge of science misapplied.


Hmmm...that's optimistic. And what good will it do us?


It shows that you as a group have raised your level of self-deception. Good
job! ;-)



Steven R. Rochlin July 12th 06 11:22 AM

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Hi Everyone,


Have been sitting back and watching the usual downward spiral, personal
attacks, sock puppets, forged postings, etc with the rec.audio.tube and
rec.audio.opinion non-moderated audio newsgroups. You have provided me with
some excellent content that may appear in a future article. Thanks for the
wonderful ebb and flow.


And now on with some replies:

NOTE: some posts were by the usual "sock puppets" or those who use others'
names to hide their own identity. My replies below simple states who the
proclaimed individual poster is, or pretends to be. This will be my only
reply to this thread for now, though may enjoy seeing your replies that
could provide more content for a possible upcoming article.

-----
Andre Jute Wed, Jul 5 2006 12:30 pm
Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent **** because the makers pay you for
adverising on your silly site and for the number of
foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
and simple, but one without the balls to open up
an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute

Enjoy the Music.com reviews/mentions far more products/manufacturers who
have never advertised than those who have. If you take the time to see the
hundreds of reviews, and thousands of products within our show reports, you
would note that only a very, very small fraction advertise.

-------------------

From: George M. Middius, Wed, Jul 5 2006 2:22 pm
Are you aware that Rochelin once sold his house
in order to buy a $100K amplifier?

Incorrect on both accounts. Please show proof of your statement.

-------

From: George M. Middius, Wed, Jul 5 2006 2:22 pm
He's the sort of climber who once advised people not
to wear a Rolex too often to protect the resale value.

Incorrect. Please show proof of your statement. If anyone reading this
does own a Rolex, please wear it as often as possible since Rolex
manufacturers a very durable product.

----------
From: Navin R. Johnson, Wed, Jul 12 2006 12:21 am
hmmm..
what exactly is going on here?

-----------

From: Jon Yaeger, Wed, Jul 12 2006 12:32 am
Don't ask. You REALLY don't want to know.
Jon


Amen Jon.



Decided to not answer other posts, and of course not bother posting the
usual sock puppets, personal attacks between one another, etc. Thanks again
everyone for your posts as they have been extremely helpful for what may
become an article concerning unmoderated newsgroups.

Enjoy the Music,

Steven R. Rochlin
http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

Where you can find:
Superior Audio, The Absolute Sound,
Review Magazine, The $ensible Sound,
The Audiophile Voice... and MUCH more!



paul packer July 12th 06 12:13 PM

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 06:59:33 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On 6 Jul 2006 05:01:18 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:

Krueger can be viewed -- and no
doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment
before death -- as an overly fanatical pusher of the
narrowest knife-edge of science misapplied.


Hmmm...that's optimistic. And what good will it do us?


It shows that you as a group have raised your level of self-deception. Good
job! ;-)


I doubt you even know what Andre actually said.

Arny Krueger July 12th 06 01:33 PM

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"paul packer" wrote in message

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 06:59:33 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On 6 Jul 2006 05:01:18 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:

Krueger can be viewed -- and no
doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment
before death -- as an overly fanatical pusher of the
narrowest knife-edge of science misapplied.

Hmmm...that's optimistic. And what good will it do us?


It shows that you as a group have raised your level of
self-deception. Good job! ;-)


I doubt you even know what Andre actually said.


So now you have concerns over the accuracy of your quote of Andre?



Jon Yaeger July 12th 06 04:08 PM

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Hi Everyone,


Have been sitting back and watching the usual downward spiral, personal
attacks, sock puppets, forged postings, etc with the rec.audio.tube and
rec.audio.opinion non-moderated audio newsgroups. You have provided me with
some excellent content that may appear in a future article. Thanks for the
wonderful ebb and flow. . . . .


Thanks again everyone for your posts as they have been extremely helpful for
what may become an article concerning unmoderated newsgroups.


Steven,

You should know that Andre Jute has (in the past) threatened to do the same
thing.

How's that for irony?

Jon


paul packer July 13th 06 12:26 AM

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:33:55 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 06:59:33 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On 6 Jul 2006 05:01:18 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:

Krueger can be viewed -- and no
doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment
before death -- as an overly fanatical pusher of the
narrowest knife-edge of science misapplied.

Hmmm...that's optimistic. And what good will it do us?


It shows that you as a group have raised your level of
self-deception. Good job! ;-)


I doubt you even know what Andre actually said.


So now you have concerns over the accuracy of your quote of Andre?


No. Only of your sanity.

Arny Krueger July 13th 06 01:11 AM

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"paul packer" wrote in message

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:33:55 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 06:59:33 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On 6 Jul 2006 05:01:18 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:

Krueger can be viewed -- and no
doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment
before death -- as an overly fanatical pusher of the
narrowest knife-edge of science misapplied.

Hmmm...that's optimistic. And what good will it do us?


It shows that you as a group have raised your level of
self-deception. Good job! ;-)


I doubt you even know what Andre actually said.


So now you have concerns over the accuracy of your quote
of Andre?


No. Only of your sanity.


Talking about sanity, Paul? I guess you think your name is Andre.



Andre Jute July 13th 06 01:52 AM

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Arny Krueger wrote:
"paul packer" wrote in message

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 09:33:55 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 06:59:33 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On 6 Jul 2006 05:01:18 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:

Krueger can be viewed -- and no
doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment
before death -- as an overly fanatical pusher of the
narrowest knife-edge of science misapplied.

Hmmm...that's optimistic. And what good will it do us?

It shows that you as a group have raised your level of
self-deception. Good job! ;-)

I doubt you even know what Andre actually said.

So now you have concerns over the accuracy of your quote
of Andre?


No. Only of your sanity.


Talking about sanity, Paul? I guess you think your name is Andre.


Psychology doesn't enter into it, though I doubt that what I actually
said holds much comfort for either of you squabling children. Context
is all:
----------------
As a matter of perspective George -- and much as I hate to say a
single kind word about an immoral slimeball like Krueger -- there is a
difference between Krueger and Rochlin. Krueger can be viewed -- and no

doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment before death -- as

an overly fanatical pusher of the narrowest knife-edge of science
misapplied. It is not an uncommon thing for cranks to do, though most
of them are not as vicious as Krueger.

Rochlin of the Enjoythemusic.com ripoff doesn't even have the excuse of

a strong conviction, unless it is the strong conviction that the rest
of us exist only as a trough for Rochlin to dip his snout into at
feeding time, which for Rochlin is all the time. Rochlin's basic
immorality is greed, then more greed, then ignorance of what a proper
review sheet does, then some more greed, then the dishonesty of giving
manufacturers the reviews they pay for. Krueger was just badly brought
up and poorly educated but Rochlin is mercenary trash. I leave it to
you
decide which is worse.

Andre Jute
Habit is the nursery of errors. -- Victor Hugo
----------------

As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for being stupid
or, for that matter, greedy.


paul packer July 13th 06 07:31 AM

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On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for being stupid
or, for that matter, greedy.


Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.

[email protected] July 13th 06 10:54 AM

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paul packer wrote:
On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for being stupid
or, for that matter, greedy.


Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.


Mr. McCoy has always been able to write massive amounts of drivel in
order to mean nothing. Those who do not know it an read its excretions
figure that with all that going on there must be a pony in there
somewhere... typically there is not.

Peter Wieck
Wyncote, PA


Arny Krueger July 13th 06 11:06 AM

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"paul packer" wrote in message

On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for
being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.


Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.


Sorry to talk over your head, Paul. I just don't do well at writing at the
third grade level.



Arny Krueger July 13th 06 11:06 AM

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On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
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As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse
for being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.


Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.


Mr. McCoy has always been able to write massive amounts
of drivel in order to mean nothing. Those who do not know
it an read its excretions figure that with all that going
on there must be a pony in there somewhere... typically
there is not.


It appears that Packer aspires to the same excretory standard.



Keith G July 13th 06 11:42 AM

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On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for
being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.


Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.


Sorry to talk over your head, Paul. I just don't do well at writing at the
third grade level.




No, you don't....

.......it's more, like, uh, I mean, *Valley Girl*.......

Like, *totally*, uh like, *far out*...

Like, f'sure, f'sure.....

*Totally*....




Andre Jute July 13th 06 12:11 PM

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Keith G wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"paul packer" wrote in message

On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for
being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.

Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.


Sorry to talk over your head, Paul. I just don't do well at writing at the
third grade level.




No, you don't....

......it's more, like, uh, I mean, *Valley Girl*.......

Like, *totally*, uh like, *far out*...

Like, f'sure, f'sure.....

*Totally*....


You got no street cred, Keith. I can see instantly that you are
British, middle-aged, middle-class, propertly educated (literate if not
necessarily numerate), and think before you speak.

How do I know all this? Well, for a start I'm a smartass. But, achurly,
nobody can miss the hugest giveaway tip of them all: you left out
"orrsum".

FIY, the Valley girls won't let Krueger into the club. You gotta have
lots of hair and an IQ over 70; Krueger doesn't qualify on either
count.

Andre Jute
Lexicographer (in Valleyspeak: a word 'tec)


Arny Krueger July 13th 06 12:29 PM

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"Andre Jute" wrote in message
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Keith G wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"paul packer" wrote in message

On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse
for being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.

Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.

Sorry to talk over your head, Paul. I just don't do
well at writing at the third grade level.




No, you don't....

......it's more, like, uh, I mean, *Valley Girl*.......

Like, *totally*, uh like, *far out*...

Like, f'sure, f'sure.....

*Totally*....


You got no street cred, Keith. I can see instantly that
you are British, middle-aged, middle-class, propertly
educated (literate if not necessarily numerate), and
think before you speak.


Well Andre, you forgot the "techically illiterate" and "bull headed" part of
any complete description of Keith.

But you can't see those in yourself even though they are massive! Therefore,
you're excused.

How do I know all this? Well, for a start I'm a smartass.


You forgot the dumass part, Andre.

But, achurly, nobody can miss the hugest giveaway tip of
them all: you left out "orrsum".


Inablity to properly spell a common slang word, noted.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=orsome


FIY, the Valley girls won't let Krueger into the club.
You gotta have lots of hair and an IQ under 70; Krueger
doesn't qualify on either count.


Agreed.

Andre Jute
Lexicographer (in Valleyspeak: a word 'tec)




Keith G July 13th 06 12:36 PM

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Keith G wrote:
"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"paul packer" wrote in message

On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for
being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.

Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.

Sorry to talk over your head, Paul. I just don't do well at writing at
the
third grade level.




No, you don't....

......it's more, like, uh, I mean, *Valley Girl*.......

Like, *totally*, uh like, *far out*...

Like, f'sure, f'sure.....

*Totally*....


You got no street cred, Keith. I can see instantly that you are
British, middle-aged, middle-class, propertly educated (literate if not
necessarily numerate), and think before you speak.



Right on the money - even down to the no particular numeracy skills,
although if I said the answer was *1.414* I doubt many here would know what
the question was....???



How do I know all this? Well, for a start I'm a smartass. But, achurly,
nobody can miss the hugest giveaway tip of them all: you left out
"orrsum".

FIY, the Valley girls won't let Krueger into the club. You gotta have
lots of hair and an IQ over 70; Krueger doesn't qualify on either
count.



I'm saying nothing, I've just polished a fingertip and thumb unthinkingly
pulling on a connector (to test it) that I had *only just* just soldered to
a speaker wire....





Keith G July 13th 06 12:48 PM

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Keith G wrote:
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On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse
for being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.

Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.

Sorry to talk over your head, Paul. I just don't do
well at writing at the third grade level.



No, you don't....

......it's more, like, uh, I mean, *Valley Girl*.......

Like, *totally*, uh like, *far out*...

Like, f'sure, f'sure.....

*Totally*....


You got no street cred, Keith. I can see instantly that
you are British, middle-aged, middle-class, propertly
educated (literate if not necessarily numerate), and
think before you speak.


Well Andre, you forgot the "techically illiterate" and "bull headed" part
of any complete description of Keith.



:-)

Fortunately, one pretty much compensates for the other - now you'll have to
excuse me, I want to get me new speakers finalised and back online for the
weekend....





Keith G July 13th 06 01:55 PM

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Keith G wrote:
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On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse
for being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.

Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.

Sorry to talk over your head, Paul. I just don't do
well at writing at the third grade level.



No, you don't....

......it's more, like, uh, I mean, *Valley Girl*.......

Like, *totally*, uh like, *far out*...

Like, f'sure, f'sure.....

*Totally*....

You got no street cred, Keith. I can see instantly that
you are British, middle-aged, middle-class, propertly
educated (literate if not necessarily numerate), and
think before you speak.


Well Andre, you forgot the "techically illiterate" and "bull headed" part
of any complete description of Keith.



:-)

Fortunately, one pretty much compensates for the other - now you'll have
to excuse me, I want to get me new speakers finalised and back online for
the weekend....



Also, not to mention I'm schlepping up to the house every half an hour to
swap disks, as I'm also converting/burning a number of recorded digital TV
movie 'REC' files to DVD+RW Videos for projecting....




paul packer July 13th 06 02:07 PM

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On 13 Jul 2006 03:54:55 -0700, " wrote:


paul packer wrote:
On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute" wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for being stupid
or, for that matter, greedy.


Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.


Mr. McCoy has always been able to write massive amounts of drivel in
order to mean nothing. Those who do not know it an read its excretions
figure that with all that going on there must be a pony in there
somewhere... typically there is not.


That's disappointing. But generally where there's excreta there is
some kind of animal.

I do find the massive amounts of drivel infrequently amusing,
especially the attacking bits. It reminds me of the description of
Alien in the movie: "Its invulnerability is matched only by its
aggression."

paul packer July 13th 06 02:10 PM

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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:06:11 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for
being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.


Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.


I just don't do well at writing at the third grade level.


I know. Yet you continue to do so.

Keith G July 13th 06 02:35 PM

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"paul packer" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:06:11 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse for
being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.

Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.


I just don't do well at writing at the third grade level.


I know. Yet you continue to do so.



Touché....... :-)






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Mr. McCoy has always been able to write massive amounts of drivel in
order to mean nothing. Those who do not know it an read its excretions
figure that with all that going on there must be a pony in there
somewhere... typically there is not.


we appreciate your efforts towards meaingless brevity.



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Arny Krueger July 13th 06 03:59 PM

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wrote in message
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paul packer wrote:
On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse
for being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.

Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.

Mr. McCoy has always been able to write massive amounts
of drivel in order to mean nothing. Those who do not
know it an read its excretions figure that with all
that going on there must be a pony in there
somewhere... typically there is not.


It appears that Packer aspires to the same excretory
standard.


Your favourite subject, Arnie?


Given that you just gratuitously brought it up again in your next post,
Paul...

"But generally where there's excreta there is some kind of animal."

....that crinkling sound that our more perceptive readers hear, is irony
killing.



Clyde Slick July 13th 06 04:00 PM

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"paul packer" wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:06:51 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

wrote in message
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paul packer wrote:
On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse
for being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.

Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.

Mr. McCoy has always been able to write massive amounts
of drivel in order to mean nothing. Those who do not know
it an read its excretions figure that with all that going
on there must be a pony in there somewhere... typically
there is not.


It appears that Packer aspires to the same excretory standard.


Your favourite subject, Arnie?


He will get back to you after he consults his poop chart.



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paul packer July 14th 06 12:52 AM

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On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 11:59:46 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"paul packer" wrote in message

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 07:06:51 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

wrote in message
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paul packer wrote:
On 12 Jul 2006 18:52:23 -0700, "Andre Jute"
wrote:


As you can see, I don't accept insanity as an excuse
for being stupid or, for that matter, greedy.

Do you accept it as an excuse for being infuriatingly
incomprehensible? If so Arnie may be off the hook.

Mr. McCoy has always been able to write massive amounts
of drivel in order to mean nothing. Those who do not
know it an read its excretions figure that with all
that going on there must be a pony in there
somewhere... typically there is not.

It appears that Packer aspires to the same excretory
standard.


Your favourite subject, Arnie?


Given that you just gratuitously brought it up again in your next post,
Paul...

"But generally where there's excreta there is some kind of animal."

...that crinkling sound that our more perceptive readers hear, is irony
killing.


I was of course merely replying to Mr. Wieck's reference. Read the
posts properly, Arnie.


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