soundhaspriority wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message
ups.com...
Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent **** because the makers pay you for
adverising on your silly site and for the number of
foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
and simple, but one without the balls to open up
an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute

This reminisces the "art vs. money" debate.

Eh? I can understand that a logger might object. But you're mistaken if
you think my objection to Rochlin and his Enjoythemusic.com ripoff is
on the grounds of art or even journalism, though it is wretched
journalism, mere paperhanging for advertising, pandering to
manufacturers too cheap to afford real advertising. Nah, here I speak
as a DIYer and on grounds of morality.

Look, audio has from the very
beginning been very commercial.

Absolutely no objection. On my home base, RAT, most of the actually
useful guys have some commercial interest in electronics or directly in
audio. Without their knowledge, the newsgroup would fall down.

But Rochlin doesn't fit that definition. He is a know-nothing. If he
didn't make a buck leading audiophile fashion victims to the slaughter,
he'd make a buck leading jeans-snobs or watch-snobs to the slaughter.
Rochlin is an ignorant shill.

My personal opinion is that Mr. Rochlin's
obvious, and not criminal, desire to make money is a tolerable tradeoff for
what he provides the community.

The question is what does he provide to the community. My opinion is
clear enough above: nothing for the community, dollars in Rochlin's
pocket for Rochlin.

Or does Mr. Jute think that the lives of audio entrepreneurs should patten
after Kerouac, Burroughs, or Jackson Pollock?

Please God, no! Your very suggestion tells us that you don't know
anything at all about these people. I'm sure that even Rochlin, whom I
dislike intensely for his basic dishonesty, his uselessness, for being
a parasite, bathes more often than that trio of scroungers and liars.
But there is a difference between Rochlin and that trio: they had
talent; Rochlin's only "talent" is quivering like a puppy-dog to be
loved so that we will give him tidbits off our table.

Rochlin is not "an audio entrepreneur". He is a publicity flack, a
paper hanger for advertiser, grubbing trash. It is an impertinence for
Rochlin to claim that his Enjoythemusic.com ripoff "helps audiophiles".
It helps no one except Steven R. Rochlin, who next week will be pushing
different crap while the innocent is stuck with the crap he equally
willy-nilly pushed last week.

Check out who advertises on Rochlin's site. Then check out who gets the
best reviews and the constant mentions. Draw a conclusion. I have. See
above.

Andre Jute
"You can wait 'til more important things get taken care of."
-- Ned Carlson of TubeZone to a Customer who already waited *14 weeks*
for his tubes.


Andre Jute wrote:

Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent **** because the makers pay you for
adverising on your silly site and for the number of
foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
and simple, but one without the balls to open up
an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute

Hi Everyone,

Enjoy the Music.com's July edition celebrates our 11th year of
helping
audiophiles all around the globe with informative articles, show
reports,
equipment reviews plus much more! New reviews appear in both Superior
Audio
and the Review Magazine, with critical assessments of the Audioengine 5

powered monitors, silver cable comparo, Hagerman Technology Chime tubed
DAC,
Role Audio Sampan speakers, Sound Dead Steel Isoplatmat, Stereovox XV2
cable, Aural Acoustics Model B speakers, plus ModWright Instrument's
Denon
3910 universal player and SWL 9.0 SE preamplifier.

http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

Enjoy the Music,

Steven R. Rochlin
http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

George M. Middius wrote:
Robert said:

Or does Mr. Jute think that the lives of audio entrepreneurs should patten

Just don't call the Krooborg a magnificent ******* or read Ferstler's books.

--
A day without Krooger is like a day radiation poisoning.

Mmm. As a matter of perspective George -- and much as I hate to say a
single kind word about an immoral slimeball like Krueger -- there is a
difference between Krueger and Rochlin. Krueger can be viewed -- and no
doubt will view himself in the clarity of the moment before death -- as
an overly fanatical pusher of the narrowest knife-edge of science
misapplied. It is not an uncommon thing for cranks to do, though most
of them are not as vicious as Krueger.

Rochlin of the Enjoythemusic.com ripoff doesn't even have the excuse of
a strong conviction, unless it is the strong conviction that the rest
of us exist only as a trough for Rochlin to dip his snout into at
feeding time, which for Rochlin is all the time. Rochlin's basic
immorality is greed, then more greed, then ignorance of what a proper
review sheet does, then some more greed, then the dishonesty of giving
manufacturers the reviews they pay for. Krueger was just badly brought
up and poorly educated but Rochlin is mercernary trash. I leave it to
decide which is worse.

Andre Jute
Habit is the nursery of errors. -- Victor Hugo

The Repair Guy wrote:

You still calling yourself "The Repair Guy"? Does that mean you have
learned to solder? Or are you like that clown Witless Wiecky who used
to hang around RAT calling himself "a repair hack" until we discovered
the only repair he ever perpetrated was to clean the dust out of
someone's amp with compressed air. That's worse than calling yourself
"The Repair Guy" because your momma said you could.

"Andre Jute" wrote:

Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
--snip--

Of course, you had to crosspost an attack on
one guy to five newsgroups...

Of course I did. When we put down a ripoff merchant, we want to put him
down in the fora in which he committed his crimes. Steven R. Rochlin
through his Enjoythemusic.com scam has been leading audiophiles to the
slaughter at the hands of incompetent makers of bland fashion-victim
crap without any discernable sonic benefit for years -- in all these
conferences, and some others, but I reckon the RAHE audiophools deserve
Rochlin for their gullibility and their slackness in not reading up a
little, a very little science.

What did you think I would do? Creep around sulking ineffectually like
you?

The Repair Guy
repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com

Andre Jute
Stop bleating. Please, please, please give us the Silence of the Lambs.

Andre Jute wrote:

Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent **** because the makers pay you for
adverising on your silly site and for the number of
foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
and simple, but one without the balls to open up
an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute

Hi Everyone,

Enjoy the Music.com's July edition celebrates our 11th year of
helping
audiophiles all around the globe with informative articles, show
reports,
equipment reviews plus much more! New reviews appear in both Superior
Audio
and the Review Magazine, with critical assessments of the Audioengine 5

powered monitors, silver cable comparo, Hagerman Technology Chime tubed
DAC,
Role Audio Sampan speakers, Sound Dead Steel Isoplatmat, Stereovox XV2
cable, Aural Acoustics Model B speakers, plus ModWright Instrument's
Denon
3910 universal player and SWL 9.0 SE preamplifier.

http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

Enjoy the Music,

Steven R. Rochlin
http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

Alan Rutlidge wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message
ups.com...
Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent **** because the makers pay you for
adverising on your silly site and for the number of
foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
and simple, but one without the balls to open up
an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute

Hi Everyone,

Enjoy the Music.com's July edition celebrates our 11th year of
helping
audiophiles all around the globe with informative articles, show
reports,
equipment reviews plus much more! New reviews appear in both Superior
Audio
and the Review Magazine, with critical assessments of the Audioengine 5

powered monitors, silver cable comparo, Hagerman Technology Chime tubed
DAC,
Role Audio Sampan speakers, Sound Dead Steel Isoplatmat, Stereovox XV2
cable, Aural Acoustics Model B speakers, plus ModWright Instrument's
Denon
3910 universal player and SWL 9.0 SE preamplifier.

http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

Enjoy the Music,

Steven R. Rochlin
http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

Andre,
Didn't you start this crap thread over at rec.audio.uk (or was it
rec.audio.tubes) ?

How is it a "crap thread" to discuss the morality of a paper hanger for
advertisers like Steven R. Rochlin of the Enjoythemusic.com scam
delivering to his paymasters favourable reviews for goods that are
widely known to have no sonic effect whatsoever?

Or do you view the morality of scam artists using the free airwaves to
line their pockets the same way you view the morality of child sex
tourism to South East Asia?

Who cares in any case.

I do, obviously. So would you, if you had any brains. But if you don't,
like the good Lord Valve says, "It ain't rocket science. No likee, no
readee."

So the OP probably didn't put COMM: in the post
header.

You haven't read the thread or, if you did, you are a functional
illiterate (or if not, your brains have been eaten by syphilis). My
objection is not to moderate advertising of Rochlin's scam-site on the
audio conferences. My objection is to his dishonest claim to "help
audiophiles". My objection is to Rochlin supporting dishonest
saleshacks. My objection is that useless greedbag Rochlin posturing as
a moral arbiter. That's like telling the Mafia they can appoint the
Police Commissioner, inviting gangrene into the usenet.

Haven't you learnt to ignore this?

See above. You're another unsophisticated rustic with an on-off switch
in his mind who insists everything must be one way or the other. The
world isn't like that. There are shades. We tolerate a certain amount
of Rochlin-like corruption in the system because it isn't worth the
unpleasantness of excising it. But that jumped up street-trader Steven
R Rochlin is now getting above himself and has thereby made it worth
the unpleasantness of cleaning him out like pus from an abcess.

Andre Jute
"You can wait 'til more important things get taken care of."
-- Ned Carlson of TubeZone to a Customer who already waited *14 weeks*
for his tubes.

Alan Rutlidge wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message
ups.com...
Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent **** because the makers pay you for
adverising on your silly site and for the number of
foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
and simple, but one without the balls to open up
an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute

Hi Everyone,

Enjoy the Music.com's July edition celebrates our 11th year of
helping
audiophiles all around the globe with informative articles, show
reports,
equipment reviews plus much more! New reviews appear in both Superior
Audio
and the Review Magazine, with critical assessments of the Audioengine 5

powered monitors, silver cable comparo, Hagerman Technology Chime tubed
DAC,
Role Audio Sampan speakers, Sound Dead Steel Isoplatmat, Stereovox XV2
cable, Aural Acoustics Model B speakers, plus ModWright Instrument's
Denon
3910 universal player and SWL 9.0 SE preamplifier.

http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

Enjoy the Music,

Steven R. Rochlin
http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

Andre,
Didn't you start this crap thread over at rec.audio.uk (or was it
rec.audio.tubes) ?

How is it a "crap thread" to discuss the morality of a paper hanger for
advertisers like Steven R. Rochlin of the Enjoythemusic.com scam
delivering to his paymasters favourable reviews for goods that are
widely known to have no sonic effect whatsoever?

Or do you view the morality of scam artists using the free airwaves to
line their pockets the same way you view the morality of child sex
tourism to South East Asia?

Who cares in any case.

I do, obviously. So would you, if you had any brains. But if you don't,
like the good Lord Valve says, "It ain't rocket science. No likee, no
readee."

So the OP probably didn't put COMM: in the post
header.

You haven't read the thread or, if you did, you are a functional
illiterate (or if not, your brains have been eaten by syphilis). My
objection is not to moderate advertising of Rochlin's scam-site on the
audio conferences. My objection is to his dishonest claim to "help
audiophiles". My objection is to Rochlin supporting dishonest
saleshacks. My objection is that useless greedbag Rochlin posturing as
a moral arbiter. That's like telling the Mafia they can appoint the
Police Commissioner, inviting gangrene into the usenet.

Haven't you learnt to ignore this?

See above. You're another unsophisticated rustic with an on-off switch
in his mind who insists everything must be one way or the other. The
world isn't like that. There are shades. We tolerate a certain amount
of Rochlin-like corruption in the system because it isn't worth the
unpleasantness of excising it. But that jumped up street-trader Steven
R Rochlin is now getting above himself and has thereby made it worth
the unpleasantness of cleaning him out like pus from an abcess.

Andre Jute
"You can wait 'til more important things get taken care of."
-- Ned Carlson of TubeZone to a Customer who already waited *14 weeks*
for his tubes.

Andre Jute wrote:
The Repair Guy wrote:

You still calling yourself "The Repair Guy"? Does that mean you have
learned to solder? Or are you like that clown Witless Wiecky who used
to hang around RAT calling himself "a repair hack" until we discovered
the only repair he ever perpetrated was to clean the dust out of
someone's amp with compressed air. That's worse than calling yourself
"The Repair Guy" because your momma said you could.


He repairs *guitars*, you dumbass, which is why he is responding to
your cross posted crap on alt.guitars. If you have a problem with some
audiophile tube supplier, stick to those forums; guitar players have no
use for gold plated connectors or your rambling.



"Andre Jute" wrote:

Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
--snip--

Of course, you had to crosspost an attack on
one guy to five newsgroups...

Of course I did. When we put down a ripoff merchant, we want to put him
down in the fora in which he committed his crimes. Steven R. Rochlin
through his Enjoythemusic.com scam has been leading audiophiles to the
slaughter at the hands of incompetent makers of bland fashion-victim
crap without any discernable sonic benefit for years -- in all these
conferences, and some others, but I reckon the RAHE audiophools deserve
Rochlin for their gullibility and their slackness in not reading up a
little, a very little science.

What did you think I would do? Creep around sulking ineffectually like
you?

The Repair Guy
repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com

Andre Jute
Stop bleating. Please, please, please give us the Silence of the Lambs.

Andre Jute wrote:

Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent **** because the makers pay you for
adverising on your silly site and for the number of
foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
and simple, but one without the balls to open up
an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute

Hi Everyone,

Enjoy the Music.com's July edition celebrates our 11th year of
helping
audiophiles all around the globe with informative articles, show
reports,
equipment reviews plus much more! New reviews appear in both Superior
Audio
and the Review Magazine, with critical assessments of the Audioengine 5

powered monitors, silver cable comparo, Hagerman Technology Chime tubed
DAC,
Role Audio Sampan speakers, Sound Dead Steel Isoplatmat, Stereovox XV2
cable, Aural Acoustics Model B speakers, plus ModWright Instrument's
Denon
3910 universal player and SWL 9.0 SE preamplifier.

http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

Enjoy the Music,

Steven R. Rochlin
http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

"Andre Jute" top-posted:

The Repair Guy wrote:

You still calling yourself "The Repair Guy"?

Well, let's take a moment and look at some message
headers... yup, evidently I stll am.

Does that mean you have learned to solder?

How would you possibly know whether I can solder?
Or MIG weld, or tap dance, or anything else?
Where do you get this stuff? Did you just buy the
Franklin Pocket Non Sequitur Generator (FPNSG)?
I bet the blue LEDs were what sold you on it.

--snip--
"Andre Jute" wrote:

Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
--snip--

Of course, you had to crosspost an attack on
one guy to five newsgroups...

Of course I did. When we put down a ripoff merchant, we

Who's "we"? You and the FPNSG? You & Andrew McCoy?
You & the Justice League of America?

want to put him down in the fora in which he committed his
crimes. Steven R. Rochlin through his Enjoythemusic.com
scam has been leading audiophiles to the slaughter at the
hands of incompetent makers of bland fashion-victim crap
without any discernable sonic benefit for years -- in all these
conferences, and some others, but I reckon the RAHE
audiophools deserve Rochlin for their gullibility and their
slackness in not reading up a little, a very little science.
What did you think I would do? Creep around sulking
ineffectually like you?

Actually, I was hoping you'd find a nice, quiet hobby.
Have you thought about building amplifiers?

The Repair Guy
repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com

Andre Jute said:

Or does Mr. Jute think that the lives of audio entrepreneurs should patten

Just don't call the Krooborg a magnificent ******* or read Ferstler's books.

Mmm. As a matter of perspective George -- and much as I hate to say a
single kind word about an immoral slimeball like Krueger

Let's leave it that. My comment was a sort-of pun on Robert's typo.



--
A day without Krooger is like a day radiation poisoning.

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 06 Jul 2006 19:45:47 +1000, Robert Morein
wrote:

In article , "The Repair Guy"
wrote:

"Andre Jute" wrote:

Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
--snip--

Of course, you had to crosspost an attack on
one guy to five newsgroups...

The Repair Guy
repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com

Sorry guys, forgery.

Bob Morein

Now which Bob Morein is this? The real one or the one who sometimes
posts, "Sorry guys, forgery."? :-)

The latter - if you look at the headers you'll see that the real Bob
Morein posts from Giganews. The above post originated with highwinds-
media.

--
Bill

Andre, thanks to you, and to Bill Riel.


"Andre Jute" wrote in message
oups.com...

Robert Morein wrote:
In article , "The Repair Guy"
wrote:

"Andre Jute" wrote:

Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
--snip--

Of course, you had to crosspost an attack on
one guy to five newsgroups...

The Repair Guy
repairguy1993 dot netfirms dot com

Sorry guys, forgery.

Bob Morein

Oh, you're definitely a forgery. The real Robert Morein is a fellow
with an elegant turn of mind who would never demean himself by these
nauseating iterations of soundbites so dull they are boring the first
time one sees them. -- Andre Jute

Andre Jute wrote:

Rochlin: far from "helping audiophiles" as you claim,
you are a parasite on high fidelity, pushing bland and
incompetent **** because the makers pay you for
adverising on your silly site and for the number of
foolish audiophiles who read your one-sided
travesties of reviews. You are a sales hack, pure
and simple, but one without the balls to open up
an emporium on the high street. --- Andre Jute

Hi Everyone,

Enjoy the Music.com's July edition celebrates our 11th year of
helping
audiophiles all around the globe with informative articles, show
reports,
equipment reviews plus much more! New reviews appear in both Superior
Audio
and the Review Magazine, with critical assessments of the Audioengine 5

powered monitors, silver cable comparo, Hagerman Technology Chime tubed
DAC,
Role Audio Sampan speakers, Sound Dead Steel Isoplatmat, Stereovox XV2
cable, Aural Acoustics Model B speakers, plus ModWright Instrument's
Denon
3910 universal player and SWL 9.0 SE preamplifier.

http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com

Enjoy the Music,

Steven R. Rochlin
http://www.EnjoyTheMusic.com