DAB am I missing something?
 

I only take an interest in Hi Fi when my system falls to bits,
which it has.
I'm looking at a Hi Fi mag as I write, it appears to have lots of
tuners and receivers (well not receivers, they seem to be missing
from the listings) that are not DAB. Am I missing something,
isn't analogue being switched off soon? Or did I misunderstand
the news broadcasts of a while ago and FM radio is carrying on
and only analogue TV is due to be switched off?
--
Mike Reid
I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair
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DAB am I missing something?
 

"The Reid" wrote in message
...
I only take an interest in Hi Fi when my system falls to bits,
which it has.


Like a lot of people only post here when their system falls to bits....???

DAB am I missing something?
 

Keith G wrote:

I only take an interest in Hi Fi when my system falls to bits,
which it has.

Like a lot of people only post here when their system falls to
bits....???

I have visions of a rack of kit suddenly going like a car in a Laurel and
Hardy film - panels fall off, there are bangs and smokes, bits make tinkling
noises as they fly out ofthe cases, followed by 'The Reid' appearing from
the billowing clouds with clothes in tatters and face covered in soot.

"Ooh, cor blimey, my system's fallen to bits..."


--
Wally
www.wally.myby.co.uk
Stress: You wake up screaming and realise you haven't fallen asleep yet.

DAB am I missing something?
 

In article , The Reid
wrote:
I only take an interest in Hi Fi when my system falls to bits, which it
has. I'm looking at a Hi Fi mag as I write, it appears to have lots of
tuners and receivers (well not receivers, they seem to be missing from
the listings) that are not DAB. Am I missing something, isn't analogue
being switched off soon? Or did I misunderstand the news broadcasts of a
while ago and FM radio is carrying on and only analogue TV is due to be
switched off?

The analog TV transmissions are due to be discontinued. If things go as
planned, this will occur area by area during the next few years. One of the
reasons being to make it possible to then have high digital TX powers,
extra stations, etc.

There are (as yet at least) no announced plans to discontinue FM radio. DAB
uses a different frequency band to FM. And if you read the magazines you
will find comments, etc, explaining why people may wish to go on using FM.

Slainte,

Jim

--
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DAB am I missing something?
 

In article ,
The Reid wrote:
I'm looking at a Hi Fi mag as I write, it appears to have lots of
tuners and receivers (well not receivers, they seem to be missing
from the listings) that are not DAB. Am I missing something,
isn't analogue being switched off soon? Or did I misunderstand
the news broadcasts of a while ago and FM radio is carrying on
and only analogue TV is due to be switched off?

There's no switch off date for FM radio unlike analogue TV.

I'd not want to lose my FM for DAB only, as the quality leaves much to be
desired on most stations. The 'suits' have gone for quantity rather than
quality so the data rate is too low.

However, DAB gives a choice of stations that you'd otherwise only get on
AM or not at all so might be considered the lesser of the two evils for
those.

You might consider a Freeview tuner for radio - they tend to be much
cheaper than FM ones, although don't have the same selection of stations.

--
*I don't have a solution, but I admire your problem. *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

DAB am I missing something?
 

The Reid wrote:
I only take an interest in Hi Fi when my system falls to bits,
which it has.
I'm looking at a Hi Fi mag as I write, it appears to have lots of
tuners and receivers (well not receivers, they seem to be missing
from the listings) that are not DAB. Am I missing something,
isn't analogue being switched off soon? Or did I misunderstand
the news broadcasts of a while ago and FM radio is carrying on
and only analogue TV is due to be switched off?

Analogue FM will be around for a very long time to come. The
Government's intention is to turn off analogue TV, as this will release
several hundred MHz of bandwidth for other things. As most people will
have converted to digital TV by 2010, it won't matter too much if
analogue goes. Turning off FM would only release 20 MHz, and would
****-off thousands of people.

DAB currently provides arguably worse audio quality than FM albeit with
a greater choice of programmes, and this quality is to get worse as more
of the bandwidth is to be used for non-audio purposes as multiplex
operators can make more money that way. The only way to improve matters
is for there to be additional multiplexes installed, but as no-one is
yet making money out of DAB, I can't see that happening anytime soon.

S.

DAB am I missing something?
 

Following up to The Reid

Or did I misunderstand
the news broadcasts of a while ago and FM radio is carrying on
and only analogue TV is due to be switched off?

lloking at a more authorative source I see they havent set a date
yet for radio, so may be 10 years?
--
Mike Reid
I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"

DAB am I missing something?
 

"Serge Auckland" wrote in message
...
The Reid wrote:
I only take an interest in Hi Fi when my system falls to bits,
which it has.
I'm looking at a Hi Fi mag as I write, it appears to have lots of
tuners and receivers (well not receivers, they seem to be missing
from the listings) that are not DAB. Am I missing something,
isn't analogue being switched off soon? Or did I misunderstand
the news broadcasts of a while ago and FM radio is carrying on
and only analogue TV is due to be switched off?

Analogue FM will be around for a very long time to come. The
Government's intention is to turn off analogue TV, as this will
release
several hundred MHz of bandwidth for other things. As most people
will
have converted to digital TV by 2010, it won't matter too much if
analogue goes. Turning off FM would only release 20 MHz, and would
****-off thousands of people.

DAB currently provides arguably worse audio quality than FM albeit
with
a greater choice of programmes, and this quality is to get worse as
more
of the bandwidth is to be used for non-audio purposes as multiplex
operators can make more money that way. The only way to improve
matters
is for there to be additional multiplexes installed, but as no-one
is
yet making money out of DAB, I can't see that happening anytime
soon.

S.


Correction: if all goes to plan ALL people will be using digital-only
TV by the end of 2012.


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

DAB am I missing something?
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
The Reid wrote:
I'm looking at a Hi Fi mag as I write, it appears to have lots of
tuners and receivers (well not receivers, they seem to be missing
from the listings) that are not DAB. Am I missing something,
isn't analogue being switched off soon? Or did I misunderstand
the news broadcasts of a while ago and FM radio is carrying on
and only analogue TV is due to be switched off?

There's no switch off date for FM radio unlike analogue TV.

I'd not want to lose my FM for DAB only, as the quality leaves much
to be
desired on most stations. The 'suits' have gone for quantity rather
than
quality so the data rate is too low.

However, DAB gives a choice of stations that you'd otherwise only
get on
AM or not at all so might be considered the lesser of the two evils
for
those.

You might consider a Freeview tuner for radio - they tend to be
much
cheaper than FM ones, although don't have the same selection of
stations.

--

Well, actually Dave, I think I am right in saying that all stations
that are on DAB can be found on DTTV and/or satellite, either of which
is considerably better quality than DAB. The only problem is that its
difficult to get DTTV and/or satellite in a moving car!


--
Woody

harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com

DAB am I missing something?
 

Following up to Serge Auckland

DAB currently provides arguably worse audio quality than FM

ive just tried a ghetto blaster type portable and can only get a
signal in one part of the house, right by the window, and i'm in
London!
--
Mike Reid
I will agree bendybuses are a good idea when they build bungalows on Mayfair
Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"

DAB am I missing something?
 

In article , The Reid
writes
Following up to Serge Auckland

DAB currently provides arguably worse audio quality than FM

ive just tried a ghetto blaster type portable and can only get a
signal in one part of the house, right by the window, and i'm in
London!

Liar!!! You lie!!!! You!!!!()*^)(*^ dontcha know that auntie BBC sez
that DAB is !!!PERFECT!!! And offers CRYSTAL CLEAR RECEPTION so you MUST
be one of those FM subversives that she wants to eliminate!!!!!!!!!

I'd watch out for the bbc men in black if I we're you!!!
--
Tony Sayer

DAB am I missing something?
 

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , The Reid
writes
Following up to Serge Auckland

DAB currently provides arguably worse audio quality than FM

ive just tried a ghetto blaster type portable and can only get a
signal in one part of the house, right by the window, and i'm in
London!

Liar!!! You lie!!!! You!!!!()*^)(*^




OK, *you* are Stewart Pinkerton and I claim my five pounds......

DAB am I missing something?
 

Serge Auckland wrote:
The Reid wrote:
I only take an interest in Hi Fi when my system falls to bits,
which it has.
I'm looking at a Hi Fi mag as I write, it appears to have lots of
tuners and receivers (well not receivers, they seem to be missing
from the listings) that are not DAB. Am I missing something,
isn't analogue being switched off soon? Or did I misunderstand
the news broadcasts of a while ago and FM radio is carrying on
and only analogue TV is due to be switched off?

Analogue FM will be around for a very long time to come. The
Government's intention is to turn off analogue TV, as this will
release several hundred MHz of bandwidth for other things. As most
people will have converted to digital TV by 2010, it won't matter too
much if analogue goes. Turning off FM would only release 20 MHz, and
would ****-off thousands of people.

DAB currently provides arguably worse audio quality than FM


Arguably? Does anybody still argue this any more? Or, I should say, does
anybody with functioning ears still argue this any more?


albeit
with a greater choice of programmes, and this quality is to get worse
as more of the bandwidth is to be used for non-audio purposes as
multiplex operators can make more money that way.


.... and new radio stations -- or haven't you heard they're going to be
dropping the bit rates to 112 kbps?


The only way to
improve matters is for there to be additional multiplexes installed,
but as no-one is yet making money out of DAB, I can't see that
happening anytime soon.


The future of DAB is all done and dusted, and the audio quality is now
guaranteed to be crap.


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

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