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Old August 28th 06, 08:36 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Default The advantage of vinyl playback systems

I recently, after reading all the posts debating the various merits of of
CD and LP, went out and bought the latest and greatest budget CD player, but
now have a problem.

I am having difficulty determining how to change the what-see-me-jiggit that
should allow me to tailor the sound to suit the different types of music I
want to play. You know how you can change the cartridge in your turntable.
In the past I had a couple of turntables with different cartridges mounted
in each, and each cartridge had it's strong points that resulted in them
giving more enjoyment on a particular type of music.

Is there any way to achieve the same result with a CD player. I am not
achieving the same nostalgic satisfaction from the CD player that I achieved
from my old turntables.


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Old August 28th 06, 08:44 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Don Pearce
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:36:04 +1000, "APR"
wrote:

I recently, after reading all the posts debating the various merits of of
CD and LP, went out and bought the latest and greatest budget CD player, but
now have a problem.

I am having difficulty determining how to change the what-see-me-jiggit that
should allow me to tailor the sound to suit the different types of music I
want to play. You know how you can change the cartridge in your turntable.
In the past I had a couple of turntables with different cartridges mounted
in each, and each cartridge had it's strong points that resulted in them
giving more enjoyment on a particular type of music.

Is there any way to achieve the same result with a CD player. I am not
achieving the same nostalgic satisfaction from the CD player that I achieved
from my old turntables.


That has already been done for you by the producers of the CDs. They
are designed and produced to sound at their "best" on a non-fiddling
CD player. CD players don't have the same failings as all that
mechanical gubbins in a vinyl playback system and there is no need to
make any changes to suit different music types.

Just press the "go" button and enjoy the music.

d

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Old August 28th 06, 09:58 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default The advantage of vinyl playback systems

In article ,
APR wrote:
I recently, after reading all the posts debating the various merits of
of CD and LP, went out and bought the latest and greatest budget CD
player, but now have a problem.


I am having difficulty determining how to change the what-see-me-jiggit
that should allow me to tailor the sound to suit the different types of
music I want to play. You know how you can change the cartridge in your
turntable. In the past I had a couple of turntables with different
cartridges mounted in each, and each cartridge had it's strong points
that resulted in them giving more enjoyment on a particular type of
music.


Is there any way to achieve the same result with a CD player. I am not
achieving the same nostalgic satisfaction from the CD player that I
achieved from my old turntables.


Best way is to get a selection of blankets and hang them over the
speakers. Several thicknesses should do what you want - but experiment
with different types of music.

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*If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?

Dave Plowman London SW
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Old August 28th 06, 08:13 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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"APR" wrote in message
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I recently, after reading all the posts debating the various merits of of
CD and LP, went out and bought the latest and greatest budget CD player,
but now have a problem.

I am having difficulty determining how to change the what-see-me-jiggit
that should allow me to tailor the sound to suit the different types of
music I want to play. You know how you can change the cartridge in your
turntable. In the past I had a couple of turntables with different
cartridges mounted in each, and each cartridge had it's strong points that
resulted in them giving more enjoyment on a particular type of music.

Is there any way to achieve the same result with a CD player.




Yes - graphic equaliser and tone controls. After that, you're stuffed....


I am not
achieving the same nostalgic satisfaction from the CD player that I
achieved from my old turntables.


Geddaway.....





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Old August 28th 06, 10:45 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Don Pearce wrote:
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:36:04 +1000, "APR"
wrote:

I recently, after reading all the posts debating the various merits of of
CD and LP, went out and bought the latest and greatest budget CD player, but
now have a problem.

I am having difficulty determining how to change the what-see-me-jiggit that
should allow me to tailor the sound to suit the different types of music I
want to play. You know how you can change the cartridge in your turntable.
In the past I had a couple of turntables with different cartridges mounted
in each, and each cartridge had it's strong points that resulted in them
giving more enjoyment on a particular type of music.

Is there any way to achieve the same result with a CD player. I am not
achieving the same nostalgic satisfaction from the CD player that I achieved
from my old turntables.


That has already been done for you by the producers of the CDs. They
are designed and produced to sound at their "best" on a non-fiddling
CD player.



While this is true for a few small specialty labels in general it
couldn't be much further from the truth. In this day of loudness wars
the music is the casualty.


CD players don't have the same failings as all that
mechanical gubbins in a vinyl playback system and there is no need to
make any changes to suit different music types.

Just press the "go" button and enjoy the music.


Seems he already did that and wasn't happy. First find the better
mastered CDs then get them. A great source for information is Steve
Hoffman's music forum.



Scott

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Old August 28th 06, 10:47 PM posted to uk.rec.audio
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
APR wrote:
I recently, after reading all the posts debating the various merits of
of CD and LP, went out and bought the latest and greatest budget CD
player, but now have a problem.


I am having difficulty determining how to change the what-see-me-jiggit
that should allow me to tailor the sound to suit the different types of
music I want to play. You know how you can change the cartridge in your
turntable. In the past I had a couple of turntables with different
cartridges mounted in each, and each cartridge had it's strong points
that resulted in them giving more enjoyment on a particular type of
music.


Is there any way to achieve the same result with a CD player. I am not
achieving the same nostalgic satisfaction from the CD player that I
achieved from my old turntables.


Best way is to get a selection of blankets and hang them over the
speakers. Several thicknesses should do what you want - but experiment
with different types of music.



Sadly, this will actually help with many CDs.


Scott

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Old August 29th 06, 01:25 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
APR wrote:
I recently, after reading all the posts debating the various merits of
of CD and LP, went out and bought the latest and greatest budget CD
player, but now have a problem.


I am having difficulty determining how to change the what-see-me-jiggit
that should allow me to tailor the sound to suit the different types of
music I want to play. You know how you can change the cartridge in your
turntable. In the past I had a couple of turntables with different
cartridges mounted in each, and each cartridge had it's strong points
that resulted in them giving more enjoyment on a particular type of
music.


Is there any way to achieve the same result with a CD player. I am not
achieving the same nostalgic satisfaction from the CD player that I
achieved from my old turntables.


Best way is to get a selection of blankets and hang them over the
speakers. Several thicknesses should do what you want - but experiment
with different types of music.



No wonder you're keeping your speakers such a secret.....




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Old August 29th 06, 01:26 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
Keith G
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
APR wrote:
I recently, after reading all the posts debating the various merits of
of CD and LP, went out and bought the latest and greatest budget CD
player, but now have a problem.


I am having difficulty determining how to change the what-see-me-jiggit
that should allow me to tailor the sound to suit the different types of
music I want to play. You know how you can change the cartridge in your
turntable. In the past I had a couple of turntables with different
cartridges mounted in each, and each cartridge had it's strong points
that resulted in them giving more enjoyment on a particular type of
music.


Is there any way to achieve the same result with a CD player. I am not
achieving the same nostalgic satisfaction from the CD player that I
achieved from my old turntables.


Best way is to get a selection of blankets and hang them over the
speakers. Several thicknesses should do what you want - but experiment
with different types of music.



Sadly, this will actually help with many CDs.




The trouble with people like Plowie is they don't seem to be able to hear
just how *blurry* most CDs are.....




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Old August 29th 06, 03:02 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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A link of interest.....

http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...CDformats2.php


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Old August 29th 06, 08:33 AM posted to uk.rec.audio
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APR wrote:
A link of interest.....

http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...CDformats2.php



I couldn't figure out what was being compared here (probably because I
couldn't find Parts 1-3 of LP v CD) but I think he's comparing a
commercial LP with a commercial CD. Given that these will have been
mastered differently, a direct comparison in this way tells you nothing.
Now if you were to take exactly the same source material, stick it on
CD and LP, then compare, I suspect you would see something different.

Re. noise floor. I agree that the brain does a great job of filtering
out the rubbish - vinyl whoosh, clicks and pops, not to mention
pre-Dolby tape hiss on AAD CDs. I'd rather it wasn't there in the first
place though.

Roy.
 




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