"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in
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I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to
spend more than 500£, what's your advice?

If there are some good options with price tag
significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome.


PLEASE listen to several models around 20% of that price
before assuming more money will buy better sound.

Agreed.

If someone wants to drop big bucks (relatively speaking), try whatever
Pioneer is selling this week as a universal (CD, DVD, DVD-A, SACD) player.
I think the magic model number is up around DV-588 by now.

And forget the twaddle about a need for using an external DAC.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in
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I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to
spend more than 500£, what's your advice?

If there are some good options with price tag
significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome.


PLEASE listen to several models around 20% of that price
before assuming more money will buy better sound.

Agreed.


Also agreed, then go and conduct an honest comparison with modern players
costing nearer 10% of that price....



If someone wants to drop big bucks (relatively speaking), try whatever
Pioneer is selling this week as a universal (CD, DVD, DVD-A, SACD) player.
I think the magic model number is up around DV-588 by now.


The only problem with using DVDPs for CD is the long 'recognition times'
when you pop a disk in some of them - my otherwise perfectly OK Pioneer
DV-575A is a slug in that department...

Arny Krueger wrote:

"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in
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I'm in the market for a new CD player. Not willing to
spend more than 500£, what's your advice?

If there are some good options with price tag
significantly lower than 500£, they would be welcome.


PLEASE listen to several models around 20% of that price
before assuming more money will buy better sound.

Agreed.

If someone wants to drop big bucks (relatively speaking), try whatever
Pioneer is selling this week as a universal (CD, DVD, DVD-A, SACD) player.
I think the magic model number is up around DV-588 by now.

$165 here
http://store.buycodefreedvd.com/pidvddvdvdir.html for a region free one or $135
for region 1.

Graham

Arnold wrote:

KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER
1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer
Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company that was military
market representative for Sony, Pioneer, Minolta and Canon.
1975 • Set up business as a fashion photographer
1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical Coordinator
1979 • Took additional job working in speaker development
1980 • Became involved in product development for total Marantz range
1986 • Appointed Marantz Senior Product Development Manager
1996 • Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz

Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to give more details
if you want to impress us with his knowledge.

--
Eiron

No good deed ever goes unpunished.

On 2006-09-06, Keith G wrote:

The only problem with using DVDPs for CD is the long 'recognition times'
when you pop a disk in some of them - my otherwise perfectly OK Pioneer
DV-575A is a slug in that department...

Also switching it on is a 'put the kettle on' event ...

Lordy

Eiron wrote:

Arnold wrote:

KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER
1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer
Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company that was military
market representative for Sony, Pioneer, Minolta and Canon.
1975 • Set up business as a fashion photographer
1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical Coordinator
1979 • Took additional job working in speaker development
1980 • Became involved in product development for total Marantz range
1986 • Appointed Marantz Senior Product Development Manager
1996 • Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz


Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to give more details
if you want to impress us with his knowledge.

Have you read the whole article? You are also most welcome to google
his credentials yourself.

From another article I posted yesterday, his 'CD-63 MkII KI Signature
CD player' ranks at number 8.

"In May 2006, Hi-Fi Choice's reviewers sat round an email client program
and between them came up with the 50 most important hi-fi components
ever sold in the UK. The results were published in an award-winning
supplement Hi-Fi that Rocked the World. If you missed it, here's the top
ten:

1. Linn Sondek LP12 turntable
2. NAD 3020 integrated amplifier
3. Quad Electrostatic loudspeaker
4. Rega Planar 3 turntable
5. Pioneer A400 integrated amplifier
6. B&W Nautilus 801 loudspeaker
7. BBC LS3/5a loudspeaker
8. Marantz CD-63 MkII KI Signature CD player
9. Garrard 301 turntable
10. Wharfedale Diamond loudspeaker"


If I recall correctly, our school system introduced me to Ohm's Law in
grade 8 or 9. Didn't yours? Just kidding - but I get your drift.

"lordy" wrote in message

On 2006-09-06, Keith G wrote:

The only problem with using DVDPs for CD is the long
'recognition times' when you pop a disk in some of them
- my otherwise perfectly OK Pioneer DV-575A is a slug in
that department...

Also switching it on is a 'put the kettle on' event ...

Points well taken. Of course given that most modern players put themselves
to sleep when not actually in use, why bother turning it off?

But that does not address the long disc recognition times. There's a lot of
options and lot of checking that needs to be done if a player wants to be
truely universal.

"Arnold" wrote in message

Eiron wrote:

Arnold wrote:

KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER
1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer
Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company
that was military market representative for Sony,
Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 • Set up business as a
fashion photographer 1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical
Coordinator 1979 • Took additional job working in
speaker development 1980 • Became involved in product
development for total Marantz range 1986 • Appointed
Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 •
Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz


Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to
give more details if you want to impress us with his
knowledge.

Have you read the whole article? You are also most
welcome to google his credentials yourself.

I guess the concept of "fluff piece" hasn't crossed your mind yet.

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
news
"Arnold" wrote in message

Eiron wrote:

Arnold wrote:

KEN ISHIWATA'S CAREER
1968 . Came to Europe to work for Pioneer
Early 1970s . Left Pioneer and worked for the company
that was military market representative for Sony,
Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 . Set up business as a
fashion photographer 1978 . Joined Marantz as Technical
Coordinator 1979 . Took additional job working in
speaker development 1980 . Became involved in product
development for total Marantz range 1986 . Appointed
Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 .
Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz


Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to
give more details if you want to impress us with his
knowledge.

Have you read the whole article? You are also most
welcome to google his credentials yourself.

I guess the concept of "fluff piece" hasn't crossed your mind yet.


The 'pony tail' doesn't help......

Arny Krueger wrote:
"Arnold" wrote in message


Eiron wrote:


Arnold wrote:


KEN ISHIWATA’S CAREER
1968 • Came to Europe to work for Pioneer
Early 1970s • Left Pioneer and worked for the company
that was military market representative for Sony,
Pioneer, Minolta and Canon. 1975 • Set up business as a
fashion photographer 1978 • Joined Marantz as Technical
Coordinator 1979 • Took additional job working in
speaker development 1980 • Became involved in product
development for total Marantz range 1986 • Appointed
Marantz Senior Product Development Manager 1996 •
Appointed Brand Ambassador for Marantz


Nothing there to suggest he knows Ohm's law. You need to
give more details if you want to impress us with his
knowledge.

Have you read the whole article? You are also most
welcome to google his credentials yourself.


I guess the concept of "fluff piece" hasn't crossed your mind yet.

The article doesn't have engineering graphs or stats for the rational
scientific types but I enjoyed reading about this flamboyant person who
has a passion for beautiful things, who is creative and about his
philosophy when designing Marantz's hi-fi components.

I enjoy it to take a glimpse into the minds of the people who are
creating today's equipment. It is similar to reading about your
favourite artist and hearing the story behind his/her music.

To answer your question - No. I will actually print it out and keep it
on file for future reference.