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"Keith G" wrote in message

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"Keith G" wrote in message

"dezza" wrote


Yes, you are right about the horse**** and many
magazines are full of it.
I've NEVER heard a difference between any cd player or
dvd player. I have 3 different receivers that all sound
exactly the same, no difference whatsoever and I
believe the same goes for ALL other amps that are
built without serious design flaws



Absolutely - *blameless audio*!!

A 'done deal' for a couple of decades now and perfectly
OK if you are only interested in reproducing a signal
with the lowest distortion/colouration possible and we
can all do that, but it's a different story if you want
your kit to *make music* - then you got to get into the
murky world of valves (IMO) and no two amps will really
sound the same!!

Depends on how you define "make music". Since I listen
to a lot of live music with no interveneing electronics
at all, I find the sort processed sound that "they all
sound different" tube amps offer to be a little lacking.
Maybe OK as MI amps, but they have no place in a modern
system designed for the best possible reproduction.

No argument from me - you reproduce sound, I'll play
music....

That's not what I said Keith, but thanks for showing us that you've avoided
those much-needed improvements in your reading comprehension.

It get worse when you venture further into vinyl - when
the cart will also have a profound effect on the sound,
as will the phono stage (to a lesser extent)....

That's one reason why "It all sounds different" bigots
love vinyl. It really does all sound different unless
you pay a lot of attention to detail, and then a lot of
it still does sound different. Vinyl suffers from
comparison with modern systems, because all accurate
systems sound the same, and as a rule vinyl-based
systems don't.

Yep - they sound *better*....

Whatever that means to a person as shallow as you are, Keith.


Then we all got the problem of speakers - the last word
in any system and where it will all fall down badly, if
you get it wrong....

Count on Keith, he'll muck around in the weeds of urban
myth and audio legend, so that when he finally gets one
thing right, you know for sure that it was an
accident... ;-)

Nope - 'trial and error' maybe, but there's no 'myth' or
'urban legend' that I subscribe to. Perhaps you're
thinking of the Quad Squad or the 'Audiolab Brigade'...???

LOL!

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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Keith G" wrote in message

"dezza" wrote


Yes, you are right about the horse**** and many
magazines are full of it.
I've NEVER heard a difference between any cd player or
dvd player. I have 3 different receivers that all sound
exactly the same, no difference whatsoever and I
believe the same goes for ALL other amps that are
built without serious design flaws



Absolutely - *blameless audio*!!

A 'done deal' for a couple of decades now and perfectly
OK if you are only interested in reproducing a signal
with the lowest distortion/colouration possible and we
can all do that, but it's a different story if you want
your kit to *make music* - then you got to get into the
murky world of valves (IMO) and no two amps will really
sound the same!!

Depends on how you define "make music". Since I listen
to a lot of live music with no interveneing electronics
at all, I find the sort processed sound that "they all
sound different" tube amps offer to be a little lacking.
Maybe OK as MI amps, but they have no place in a modern
system designed for the best possible reproduction.

No argument from me - you reproduce sound, I'll play
music....

That's not what I said Keith, but thanks for showing us that you've
avoided those much-needed improvements in your reading comprehension.



No argument from me - you reproduce sound, I'll play music....



It get worse when you venture further into vinyl - when
the cart will also have a profound effect on the sound,
as will the phono stage (to a lesser extent)....

That's one reason why "It all sounds different" bigots
love vinyl. It really does all sound different unless
you pay a lot of attention to detail, and then a lot of
it still does sound different. Vinyl suffers from
comparison with modern systems, because all accurate
systems sound the same, and as a rule vinyl-based
systems don't.

Yep - they sound *better*....

Whatever that means to a person as shallow as you are, Keith.


Shallow....???

(Bit rich, coming from *you* ain't it...???)

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Keith G wrote:
No argument from me - you reproduce sound, I'll play music....

Best to learn the piano, then, Keith.

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