Dear All

Quite a few years back my father changed his hi-fi/tv kit to all B&O,
he gave me his CD and AMP, I think he only used headphones then, hence
no speakers came my way!

The Amp is an Audiolab 8000A, the CD an Arcam Alpha 7, I think of
mid/late 90s vintage, from memory I recall this was pretty good kit
that I could not afford as a student!

I've always had separates, only of average quality though. I've just
moved and decided my old Mission 760's should be replaced by something
sounding better, looking better in my contemporary flat and more suited
to the amp.

My living room has wooden floors and measures 6 x 3.5m

Now, I've no idea where to start, and what to start listening to. I've
done Googling and Quads 11L's get mentioned a few times in relation to
the Amp.

In terms of music I listen to lots of guitar based stuff, radiohead,
massive attack, muse, placebo etc.......

I know I need to listen before I buy, but some basic pointers in
relation to my amp/room size/music would be great........booksheld on
stands vs floorstanders

My 760's always sounded a bit flat with the amp, lacking bass, although
I have read that the amp is 'neutral'?

Any advice on speaker cable too would be good.

Budget wise, I can live with £200-300 I guess, stands included, or
they could follow at xmas.

Regards

David

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** Groper alert !


My living room has wooden floors and measures 6 x 3.5m

Now, I've no idea where to start,


** Start by covering the floor of that room with thick mats or carpet.

Its is crime to destroy the sound of good speakers by putting them in an
echo chamber.

If no can do - just buy a pair or two of decent headphones.




........ Phil

** Start by covering the floor of that room with thick mats or carpet.

Its is crime to destroy the sound of good speakers by putting them in an
echo chamber.

If no can do - just buy a pair or two of decent headphones.




....... Phil

Phil

Thanks for the quick response, carpet no, I like my wooden floor - I
note your comments though. I have some okay (prob budget for this
group) £100 Sennheiser headphones. I do need some loud speakers
though.

Thanks

David

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** Arrogant Groper Fool Alert


** Start by covering the floor of that room with thick mats or carpet.

Its is crime to destroy the sound of good speakers by putting them in an
echo chamber.

If no can do - just buy a pair or two of decent headphones.


Thanks for the quick response, carpet no, I like my wooden floor


** Fine - your priorities are now clear.

YOU simply have no interest in good sound reproduction.

YOU are just another ****** who likes to collect hi-fi trinkets.


Stop wasting everyone's time - go away.





........... Phil

** Fine - your priorities are now clear.

YOU simply have no interest in good sound reproduction.

YOU are just another ****** who likes to collect hi-fi trinkets.


Stop wasting everyone's time - go away.





.......... Phil

Phil

Thank you for your considered and constructive response.

I realise that audio equipment is a very emotive subject and men of
your calibre are clearly passionate, which is a commendable
characteristic.

I fully aknowelege that spending a great deal of money on hi-fi
equipment and a home confiuguration to suite is not a passion of mine,
I would contest that 'no interest in sound production' is a little
strong but it's a subjective matter, as is my preferance to retain
rather than cover a harwood floor with carpet

As to masturbation, thank you, but not something I regularly need to
resort to - each to their own again.

I was seeking some simple pointers for speakers that will be
compatable with my amp, before hitting the shops, rather than wasting
time, clearly this is not the NG to embark upon such a line of
questioning.

I will let you return to responding to more valid questions on the
group and apologise for wasting what is clearly very valuble time.


Regards

David

Oh, don't worry about Phil and his attitude problem.

But speakers live in a room and the two must be considered together. I
like wooden floors too. But you might like to investigate the effect
of bringing your speakers a little closer to the listening position
and throwing a couple of rugs on the floor in-between. Soft
furnishings and heavy curtains are good too.

Phil Allison wrote:
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** Arrogant Groper Fool Alert


** Start by covering the floor of that room with thick mats or carpet.

Its is crime to destroy the sound of good speakers by putting them in an
echo chamber.

If no can do - just buy a pair or two of decent headphones.


Thanks for the quick response, carpet no, I like my wooden floor


** Fine - your priorities are now clear.

YOU simply have no interest in good sound reproduction.

YOU are just another ****** who likes to collect hi-fi trinkets.


Stop wasting everyone's time - go away.





.......... Phil

What a ****ing stupid response to someone who genuinely wants some
help.

These days bare floors are a compromise a lot of people have to live
with.

to O/P - a strategically placed rug or soft might help- back to your
question. I'd look for a used pair of Mission 752 Freedoms, which
worked well with the 8000A.

OR a different flavour would be Spendor/Harbeth.

make sure you listen with your amp in your room before parting with the
money - if you want to keep your bare floors, then try to sit as close
as poss to the speakers.

"Tim"

** Arrogant Groper Audiophool ****wit Alert

( is there any other kind?)



** Start by covering the floor of that room with thick mats or carpet.

Its is crime to destroy the sound of good speakers by putting them in
an
echo chamber.

If no can do - just buy a pair or two of decent headphones.


Thanks for the quick response, carpet no, I like my wooden floor


** Fine - your priorities are now clear.

YOU simply have no interest in good sound reproduction.

YOU are just another ****** who likes to collect hi-fi trinkets.


Stop wasting everyone's time - go away.



What a ****ing stupid response to someone who genuinely wants some
help.


** ******** !!

The idiot OP only wanted to have his WRONG ideas re-enforced.

Know nothing ****s like YOU are happy to oblige.



These days bare floors are a compromise a lot of people have to live
with.


** ********.



to O/P - a strategically placed rug or soft might help


** More ********.





.......... Phil

Phil Allison wrote:

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** Arrogant Groper Fool Alert

** Start by covering the floor of that room with thick mats or carpet.

Its is crime to destroy the sound of good speakers by putting them in an
echo chamber.

If no can do - just buy a pair or two of decent headphones.

Thanks for the quick response, carpet no, I like my wooden floor

** Fine - your priorities are now clear.

YOU simply have no interest in good sound reproduction.

YOU are just another ****** who likes to collect hi-fi trinkets.

Stop wasting everyone's time - go away.

Maybe he likes a live sound. Plenty of studio control rooms have wooden floors
btw.

Graham

On 22 Sep 2006 02:26:47 -0700, "
wrote:

Thanks for the quick response, carpet no, I like my wooden floor - I
note your comments though. I have some okay (prob budget for this
group) £100 Sennheiser headphones. I do need some loud speakers
though.

You want a wooden floor or you want good sound?